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OfflineDexter666
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Yield difference with casing
    #1440384 - 04/08/03 08:46 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

How much more of a yield do you get with casing versus just growing the cakes and whats the average yeild per cake using either method and i was told by a friend that lippy yais are realy good to grow are they a good first timer strain.


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Re: Yield difference with casing [Re: Dexter666]
    #1440456 - 04/08/03 09:13 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Variables, variables, variables. Average increase in yield would probably be around double for each cake cased.


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Re: Yield difference with casing [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1440493 - 04/08/03 09:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

now lets talk spawn......


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Re: Yield difference with casing [Re: Dexter666]
    #1440544 - 04/08/03 09:36 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

IMHO cakes & bulk cased substrates do not compare:

Optimal cased bulk substrate such as dung/straw or compost will get you bulk B/E.

Biological Efficiency (B/E) is a term frequently used to describe yield potentials of mushrooms from various bulk cased substrates. Simply put, a yield of 1 lb. of fresh mushrooms from 1 lb. of dry substrate is considered to be 100% Biological Efficiency. Since mushrooms are approximately 90% water and the base substrate is typically raised to 70 - 75% moisture, 100% Biological Efficiency is equivalent to saying that 25% of the wet mass of the substrate is converted into fresh mushrooms.
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Re: Yield difference with casing [Re: SixTango]
    #1440744 - 04/08/03 10:33 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Yield difference with casing [Re: SixTango]
    #1441143 - 04/09/03 12:42 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

agreed, I think I'll tell Mr. Monkey so he will start weighing his substrates to track yields.

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Re: Yield difference with casing [Re: michael_mycol]
    #1441755 - 04/09/03 04:43 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

            6T...always on time and right on the money


kramer says thanks :smile:


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Re: Yield difference with casing [Re: george castanza]
    #1441826 - 04/09/03 05:21 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

BTW, under optimal conditions, with optimal spawn,  (deep) bulk substrates &  pH adjusted casing, 150 to 250% B/E is quite possible :wink:

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Re: Yield difference with casing [Re: SixTango]
    #1442026 - 04/09/03 07:56 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

So 6T, let me see if I got this straight, so growers have something to shoot for! :laugh:

200% B/E would be 2 pounds of wet mushies grown from 4 pounds of wet poo, and is that for one flush or all flushes combined?  Also, for the experienced growers, what have you found gives the best B/E: all dung, dung/straw mix, or all straw. (and I don't want to hear variables! :wink:  I'm talking about grown in optimum conditions.)


...and I agree with Angry, casing will about double the yield if done right. 


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Re: Yield difference with casing [Re: ClosetCase]
    #1443020 - 04/09/03 02:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Perhaps tracking BE over a period of several months would be useful.

For example, yield of dry fruits from x amount of sub in a three month period.

As to the original question, case those cakes! Its just too difficult IMO to keep cakes hydrated.


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Re: Yield difference with casing [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1443252 - 04/09/03 03:31 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You will find that 90% or more of the mushroom farms track BE of eace crop, this way they can maximize their yeilds and get more out of their production run.


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