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Found some crystals. DMT?
    #14400314 - 05/04/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I was grabbing something under my sink and when I was moving a jar of hexane out of the way I noticed some crystals had formed at the bottom of the jar. I had used the hexane to extract DMT a while ago and was saving it for later use. I assume that I already precipitated the crystals out of this solvent but who knows what really happened.

Anyway these crystals formed in room temperature sitting under my sink in a jar full of hexane. If it's DMT how did they crash out of solution? It couldn't of been that saturated it was a big jar full of solvent and a small amount of crystals. Do you think these crystals are even DMT? I've never seen DMT formations like this, have you? I'm thinking I should do a bioassay on them.



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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: muistrue]
    #14400340 - 05/04/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My bet would be no but don't take my word for it


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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: muistrue]
    #14400359 - 05/04/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Doesn't look like any crystal of DMT I've ever seen.  Also, the circumstances of their appearance don't make it seem likely to make those DMT crystals, either.  :shrug:

I'd be loathe to bioassay those, and in good conscience, I'd counsel you to toss 'em out.  Might be crystals of NaOH for all you (or I) know.  Better safe than sorry!

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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: Soluminia]
    #14400369 - 05/04/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i kno nothing about dmt. but those dont look like any dmt crystals ive ever seen. wouldnt that be a lot too? i thought u only get a little, but if you can extract it, you should kno.


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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14400385 - 05/04/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"I assume that I already precipitated the crystals out of this solvent but who knows what really happened."

:ilold:

I know that feeling :facepalm:


Are there any tests you could do on it to find out what it could be? Does it smell like DMT?

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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14400392 - 05/04/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Doesn't look like any crystal of DMT I've ever seen.  Also, the circumstances of their appearance don't make it seem likely to make those DMT crystals, either.  :shrug:

I'd be loathe to bioassay those, and in good conscience, I'd counsel you to toss 'em out.  Might be crystals of NaOH for all you (or I) know.  Better safe than sorry!

N.B.




That was my initial thought as well but I just melted one of the crystals on a spoon and it melted down to a liquid immediately like DMT would and sodium hydroxide has a high melting point so it wouldn't do that. Also my room reeks like DMT now so I know it's some sort of indole.


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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: muistrue]
    #14400437 - 05/04/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If that's the case, id pursue it further. I would love to see the results...

If those are some dmt crystals, I would be blown away.

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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: muistrue]
    #14400438 - 05/04/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know shit about chemistry, but is it possible that the dmt crystallized over time because of it's concentration in the hexane? Is it inevitable that over time crystals would form in such an environment?

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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: EdgeChaos]
    #14400469 - 05/04/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't know shit about chemistry, but is it possible that the dmt crystallized over time because of it's concentration in the hexane? Is it inevitable that over time crystals would form in such an environment?




That's a good question. I've seen DMT crash out of solution at room temperature before but the solvent was completely saturated and never have I seen DMT crystal formations like these. Based on the melting point and smell I'm convinced that a bioassay is the right thing to do.


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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: muistrue]
    #14400482 - 05/04/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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That's a good question. I've seen DMT crash out of solution at room temperature before but the solvent was completely saturated and never have I seen DMT crystal formations like these. Based on the melting point and smell I'm convinced that a bioassay is the right thing to do.




I couldn't agree more, just be really careful!


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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: bholzer]
    #14400493 - 05/04/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You should post this in the Chemistry and Pharmacology forum!
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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: Boozie]
    #14400506 - 05/04/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You should post this in the Chemistry and Pharmacology forum!
:popcorn:




Good call, maybe a kind mod will move it.


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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: muistrue]
    #14400534 - 05/04/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I don't know shit about chemistry, but is it possible that the dmt crystallized over time because of it's concentration in the hexane? Is it inevitable that over time crystals would form in such an environment?




That's a good question. I've seen DMT crash out of solution at room temperature before but the solvent was completely saturated and never have I seen DMT crystal formations like these. Based on the melting point and smell I'm convinced that a bioassay is the right thing to do.




I know that the longer it takes the crystals to form the larger they are. So it would follow that they would have a vastly different appearance than freeze precipitated DMT.

But still, all the images of large DMT crystals I can find don't look like that.





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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: EdgeChaos]
    #14400561 - 05/04/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:popcorn: tuning in


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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: EdgeChaos]
    #14400564 - 05/04/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Bioassay that shit and keep us updated

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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: chopstick]
    #14400599 - 05/04/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: chopstick]
    #14400607 - 05/04/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Bioassay that shit and keep us updated




An old friend is coming to town tonight, we'll get to the bottom of this.


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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: chopstick]
    #14400612 - 05/04/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



It's hard to tell. Are these flat? If so then they actually do kind of look like the second picture I just posted.

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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: EdgeChaos]
    #14400629 - 05/04/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The more I look at those the more excited I get! Have you been able to weight them?


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Re: Found some crystals. DMT? [Re: EdgeChaos]
    #14400631 - 05/04/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Not completely flat, they have terminations on multiple sides kinda like sticking two cones together by the base. But yeah I see some similarities in the pic you posted. I'm pretty sure it's DMT that crystallized under odd conditions hence the odd form. Hopefully it'll give me an odd perspective on DMT hyperspace.


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