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bootster


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Is verm neccessary?
#14399914 - 05/04/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just talked to my verm supplier and he said that the price has gone up 50% in 3 months from $22 to $33! I have a lot left from my 4 cu ft bag but don't want to run out and be left in the lurch. I am looking for medium/fine but all that he has is course. I am still looking.
Any suggestions?
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slapphappypill
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Re: Is verm neccessary? [Re: bootster]
#14399921 - 05/04/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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grind up the coarse verm? I'd make sure to keep that as an ingredient to my cakes/bulk...
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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bootster


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I don't think that the course will hurt a bulk additive as I've used it with success before but I've read that med/fine is a little bit better.
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Re: Is verm neccessary? [Re: bootster]
#14399938 - 05/04/11 01:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i pay that for a 4 cubic ft bag. $33. $22 was an awesome deal ime. i've heard up to $50. but some people grow on coir alone. verm adds wter reserves and airiness for the myc. i'd happily fork over the $33 though, i'm just getting to the end of my bag and i've had it for 8-9 months.
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slapphappypill
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I get my bag for 19.99, and i've gone through over half it in the last 2 months... need to go get some more
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Luger0815
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In case of bulk subs, use the coarse..it's okay.
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bootster


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Re: Is verm neccessary? [Re: Luger0815]
#14400022 - 05/04/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am shopping around and found out that 5 hydro stores that I called didn't even know what verm is! I couldn't believe it.
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Re: Is verm neccessary? [Re: bootster]
#14400054 - 05/04/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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dude extra 10 bucks is not so bad, for what you get in the end it's still a very inexpensive hobby.
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bootster


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Re: Is verm neccessary? [Re: Gotlib]
#14400077 - 05/04/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree but a 50% price increase in 3 months makes me wonder if I shouldn't get two bags to avoid future disappointments. One of the hydro guys said that he doesn't carry it because it causes cancer! WTF?
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slapphappypill
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Re: Is verm neccessary? [Re: bootster]
#14400083 - 05/04/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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There are a lot of places in the midwest that stopped carrying it because they say there could be cancer causing agents in the vermiculite... I say wtf ever, my mushies like it!
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: Is verm neccessary? [Re: bootster]
#14400101 - 05/04/11 01:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Any major gardening store will have it and if you live in the United States, Lowe's has it for $5... it's enough for at least 50 cakes sub/roll and a lot for bulk. Or you can order online elsewhere. $35 is a rip off.
And a quick google will reveal that they say some vermiculite containing products also have asbestos because the mine they distributed it to worldwide in 1990 had asbestos mixed into it. http://www.idph.state.il.us/envhealth/factsheets/vermiculite.htm
Edited by OneU (05/04/11 01:58 PM)
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slapphappypill
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Re: Is verm neccessary? [Re: OneU]
#14400158 - 05/04/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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the $35 is for a 20-40 lb bag I believe... at least thats what it it is where I am. that bag is about 20 times bigger than the bags I was getting and going through in a couple of days... If the $35 is for the large bag that is 4 like 4 ft tall, then your golden!
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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Re: Is verm neccessary? [Re: OneU]
#14400160 - 05/04/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm talking 4 cu ft here dude,a crotch high bag that's about 18" in dia. Those small bags ARE a ripoff. I don't/won't do cakes.
Those bags you linked to are tiny. I understand that you are trying to be helpful here but you have to compare quantity vs. price/volume.
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slapphappypill
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Re: Is verm neccessary? [Re: bootster]
#14400193 - 05/04/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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bootster


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It's too bad that shipping is more than the product! $50 from Ben Meadows total price shipped.
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wonder what shipping and handling is on that... i'm so glad i can drive to the next hood over and get it. no paper trail either.
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slapphappypill
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yeah, my source used to be less than a mile away, not it's about 10 miles away... still not too bad for 3-7 months worth of verm...
-------------------- We think we have freedom, but we're all just mice in a maze.... FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly! I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably! ~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~ ~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~ ~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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i had to order it online once during the winter cause noone had it. I paid more for shipping but i would still say its worth it. Your gona have poor results if you cant keep moisture in your sub.
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bootster


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I'm going to get 2 bags and be done with it for a lifetime (for me).
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Re: Is verm neccessary? [Re: bootster]
#14400794 - 05/04/11 04:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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get a bunch of tyvek. then u only need verm if u need to mix it with ur sub.
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