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blueish thing on the surface...
    #14398782 - 05/04/11 10:18 AM (10 years, 10 days ago)

I wanna know whether i should chuck this cake or not....growing shrooms for the first time....expert advice will be appreciated....


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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: poison_pipe]
    #14402184 - 05/04/11 11:13 PM (10 years, 9 days ago)

Looks like bruising.

The angle in your second pic doesn't have enough light hitting it. I can't tell if it's mold or bruising from that picture.


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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: Chez man]
    #14405792 - 05/05/11 05:18 PM (10 years, 9 days ago)

That's toast, toss it.

What did you use to make that cake? It definitely doesn't look like brown rice flour. It doesn't look fully colonized either...


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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: Boozie]
    #14407263 - 05/05/11 10:24 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

That thing looks gross as hell. Do :whathesaid: and make some more cakes.


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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: esquaredx]
    #14408498 - 05/06/11 04:18 AM (10 years, 8 days ago)

Well i've isolated this one and keepin a close watch....its been 2 days since i kept it in a segregated fruiting chamber.....no signs of pinning yet.....i used rye grain substrate and it took over 1 month for this partial colonization....i still have one cake in incubation phase....can the presence of this cake in the house contaminate the other one....Thanks for ur replies.....btw the strain is costa rica..


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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: poison_pipe]
    #14408579 - 05/06/11 05:31 AM (10 years, 8 days ago)

Look up pf tek and follow that, The cakes need to be fully colonised before fruiting.


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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: lucas_southoz]
    #14409501 - 05/06/11 12:34 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

It was fully colonized....or atleast it looked like one....the whole thing was white....but as soon as i got it out of the jar, it turned into this nasty turd lookin thing.



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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: poison_pipe]
    #14410052 - 05/06/11 02:32 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

That's because rye berries and other whole grains are for "bulk" growing, and are to be spawned to manure or coir or something similar. If you're doing cakes, stick with brown rice flour and vermiculite. It will hold together much better once it's colonized and won't turn into a "nasty turd looking thing" as you put it. :hehehe:

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Well i've isolated this one and keepin a close watch....its been 2 days since i kept it in a segregated fruiting chamber.....no signs of pinning yet.....i used rye grain substrate and it took over 1 month for this partial colonization....i still have one cake in incubation phase....can the presence of this cake in the house contaminate the other one....Thanks for ur replies.....btw the strain is costa rica..



There's no need to hang on to that thing. It's done, and yes, it can spread the contaminant spores throughout your grow area and your whole house if you leave it around. That's not saying it will be dangerous to your health or anything, but it may prevent you from having any success in the future.

Check this site out if you haven't already. There's a wealth of knowledge in those video links. Just follow the steps to the 'T' and you'll be fine.


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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: Boozie]
    #14413846 - 05/07/11 07:00 AM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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That's because rye berries and other whole grains are for "bulk" growing, and are to be spawned to manure or coir or something similar. If you're doing cakes, stick with brown rice flour and vermiculite. It will hold together much better once it's colonized and won't turn into a "nasty turd looking thing" as you put it. :hehehe:

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poison_pipe said:
Well i've isolated this one and keepin a close watch....its been 2 days since i kept it in a segregated fruiting chamber.....no signs of pinning yet.....i used rye grain substrate and it took over 1 month for this partial colonization....i still have one cake in incubation phase....can the presence of this cake in the house contaminate the other one....Thanks for ur replies.....btw the strain is costa rica..



There's no need to hang on to that thing. It's done, and yes, it can spread the contaminant spores throughout your grow area and your whole house if you leave it around. That's not saying it will be dangerous to your health or anything, but it may prevent you from having any success in the future.

Check this site out if you haven't already. There's a wealth of knowledge in those video links. Just follow the steps to the 'T' and you'll be fine.





Not sure why you're knocking his method of cakes as I birth straight WBS cakes from 1/2 pint and pints and get results in my avatar and links in my sig.

OP - You prepared you're grain on the wet side and birthed a little soon. Next time just wait it out in the jar for an extra week or 2 (I give my jars 3 weeks after 100% colonized)

It looks like he is battling bacteria witch is nothing new. Definitely ok to separate the cake from the rest even though I don't think you have anything to worry about. Just make sure to fan that cake more often to dry (I also use a tiny bit of hydrogen peroxide on cakes that start to do that and get a little out of hand)

Just make sure to pay attention to your babies and if you have further questions just post more pics :bigjoint:


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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14414378 - 05/07/11 11:27 AM (10 years, 7 days ago)

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it looks like he is battling bacteria witch is nothing new. Definitely ok to separate the cake from the rest even though I don't think you have anything to worry about.



Did you not notice all that mold in the first pics? Those cakes are done. No question about it. Keep it around if you like, but good luck with avoiding contamination in the future if you do.

I wasn't knocking his method or anything, I was just saying most folks start with BRF in cakes and go from there. Grains will still work, but they're more suited for spawning. My fault for the confusion!


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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: poison_pipe]
    #14418212 - 05/08/11 06:54 AM (10 years, 6 days ago)

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it looks like he is battling bacteria witch is nothing new. Definitely ok to separate the cake from the rest even though I don't think you have anything to worry about.



Did you not notice all that mold in the first pics? Those cakes are done. No question about it. Keep it around if you like, but good luck with avoiding contamination in the future if you do.

I wasn't knocking his method or anything, I was just saying most folks start with BRF in cakes and go from there. Grains will still work, but they're more suited for spawning. My fault for the confusion!




I was looking at this pic:


Not sure how I missed the top ones... but yeah, the top pics look bad...


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: slapphappypill]
    #14423168 - 05/09/11 06:56 AM (10 years, 5 days ago)

The cake finally made its way to the can...I'll be more careful bout handling them next time.....@boozie d video link is terrific....@slaphappypills dude u really gav me an expert tip on dealing with rye,i even checked out ur links and u hav some amazing stuff goin on there man,who knows, u might just become the kingpin of shrooms.....nyways the post is complete....mission is accomplished....thanks 4 u replies


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Re: blueish thing on the surface... [Re: poison_pipe]
    #14424723 - 05/09/11 03:43 PM (10 years, 5 days ago)

Glad I could help :bigjoint:

Make sure to keep us updated in the mush cult forum with pics of your future projects and im sure you'll get plenty of help! There are plenty of cultivators with years more experiance than I :jah:


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

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~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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