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dizzyease
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If i have a shotgun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result?
#14398352 - 05/04/11 05:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Would there be no RH? I left those out, as I usually fill the bottom with water. well that was in the summer of 2010, so it was humid. now my house has about 25 % rh, would putting holes in my shotgun ALL AROUND, help my 60 % rh FC to get to 80+?
Edited by dizzyease (05/05/11 05:43 PM)
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Perun
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: dizzyease]
#14398391 - 05/04/11 05:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why do you fill the bottom with water??? Build propper SGFC with holes in all 6 sides and 4-5" of perlite! If u dont want to do that and keep bottom and lid with no holes...yeah it will work,but you r not gonna get enough FAE!
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: dizzyease]
#14398392 - 05/04/11 05:32 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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with damp perlite at the bottom you can create a decent environment for your shrooms to grow in.
the correct version of the sgfc is with holes in top and bottom too, but i think if you fan manually there will be enough fae.
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: higgledy-piggledy]
#14398398 - 05/04/11 05:36 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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higgledy-piggledy said: with damp perlite at the bottom you can create a decent environment for your shrooms to grow in.
the correct version of the sgfc is with holes in top and bottom too, but i think if you fan manually there will be enough fae.
Yeah it will be just enough FAE...i know i did the same thing when i was starting(didnt drill bottom and top)but now i know holes in bottom and lid is much better option!
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: Perun]
#14398409 - 05/04/11 05:39 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Perun said: ...but now i know holes in bottom and lid is much better option!
that and elevating the chamber off the ground a few inches.
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nynole
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: dizzyease]
#14398416 - 05/04/11 05:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think holes relate more to FAE. Although I read somewhere that air moves from areas of high density (ie cooler air located below the SGFC) to areas of low density (the warmer air located near the top of the SGFC). With holes located both at the top and bottom of the SGFC, as the air passes through the holes on the bottom, it would pick up the moisture in the perlite and raise the RH as the air travels up through the SGFC. So, in answer to your question, I would say that it would raise your RH to have holes on the bottom and top. .25" drilled 2 inches apart.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just a noob putting in my $.02
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: nynole]
#14398427 - 05/04/11 05:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I also think that if you have standing water in the bottom of your FC, you may start growing something that you really don't want in there. Somewhere on here is a pic of someone who had water sitting in the bottom of an FC growing some funky black and yellow grossness.
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: nynole]
#14398494 - 05/04/11 06:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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would putting holes in my shotgun ALL AROUND, help my 60 % rh FC to get to 80+?
Trying to run a shotgun terrarium without holes in the bottom is like trying to drive a car with one of the wheels off. Build the shotgun terrarium per the tek and your humidity will be 90% or more. RR
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dizzyease
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14403655 - 05/05/11 04:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hmm... well i made a sgfc, no cakes in it, all perfect holes, misting, fanning, but theres less humidity than the one with all the holes taped up, with cakes. that sucks, do the cakes contribute to any humidity?
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Perun
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: dizzyease]
#14403677 - 05/05/11 04:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you have 5in of perlite on the bottom???
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: Perun]
#14403689 - 05/05/11 04:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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A group of cakes will raise the humidity as they evaporate their excess H2O, the more cakes in the FC the more it will raise RH.
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14403709 - 05/05/11 05:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have about two inches, i heard anywhere from 1 -5 works. im guessing thats not correct?
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: dizzyease]
#14403716 - 05/05/11 05:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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At least 4 inches, 4-5 is good.
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: dizzyease]
#14403717 - 05/05/11 05:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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dizzyease said: I have about two inches, i heard anywhere from 1 -5 works. im guessing thats not correct?
4-5in is optimal and SG will perform at its best!
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: Perun]
#14405969 - 05/05/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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WOAH! IT WORKS!
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: dizzyease]
#14406157 - 05/05/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have a temp issue where my modded SGFC is located, so I did the same thing you did, but, I have 4" or perlite on the bottom, holes on the upper sides and on the top lid. Now, since I have a temp problem, I'm using a TiT setup (quite large), with a 200w heater attached to the bottom of the outer tub, also, I have a water circulater attached to the side of the outer tub to keep the water fluid and always moving to evenly distribute the temp to the FC. Also, I have 3 large, foot long+ air rocks sitting on the bottom of the SGFC with the perlite on top of the air rocks so the air blows through the perlite and into the chamber. I keep the temp in the FC at 73 deg, F. and my RH is stuck at 99 at all times. I have my air pumps run at 45 min intervals, for 45 minutes. That means the air pumps run for 12 hours a day total, producing constant FAE. This has worked very well for me, the temp is constant and the RH is constant, and the FAE is very good.
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: bbox244]
#14406205 - 05/05/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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bbox244 said: I have a temp issue where my modded SGFC is located, so I did the same thing you did, but, I have 4" or perlite on the bottom, holes on the upper sides and on the top lid. Now, since I have a temp problem, I'm using a TiT setup (quite large), with a 200w heater attached to the bottom of the outer tub, also, I have a water circulater attached to the side of the outer tub to keep the water fluid and always moving to evenly distribute the temp to the FC. Also, I have 3 large, foot long+ air rocks sitting on the bottom of the SGFC with the perlite on top of the air rocks so the air blows through the perlite and into the chamber. I keep the temp in the FC at 73 deg, F. and my RH is stuck at 99 at all times. I have my air pumps run at 45 min intervals, for 45 minutes. That means the air pumps run for 12 hours a day total, producing constant FAE. This has worked very well for me, the temp is constant and the RH is constant, and the FAE is very good.
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: dizzyease]
#14406232 - 05/05/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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dizzyease said: WOAH! IT WORKS!

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bbox244
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Re: If i have a shogun terrarium, with holes not on the lid, or bottom, whats the result? [Re: Perun]
#14425738 - 05/09/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is it that obvious LOL. I haven't moved on to smaller things, I've just added little things Seriously though, my TiT setup is perfect for anyone with temp issues on the colder side. So, if you have colder/drier atmospheric conditions which fluctuate and you need something stealthy and stable without any need for fanning and misting, my setup is the way to go. I do trays and cakes, depending on what I'm experimenting with and the nice part is that the conditions inside the FC are perfect. The CO2 gets mixed in with the large amount of air moving in and pushed out the holes. CO2 adheres to moisture quite well and thus the FAE takes care of the heavier gas and keeps things well aerated. Plus, if your like me and have dozens of pumps laying all over the place, it's the perfect option, I buy them by the case when they start to go. One of these days I'm going to put up a TEK with pics, because I use a special LED lighting system in the 5000-6000K range for a light source which evenly distributes the light throughout the inside of the FC with a 2A 5V DC PSU. Also, my GB uses the same principles as my HEPA Pump TEK in my sig. I haven't blown myself up yet and have had no contams in any transfers or noc's, or LC's. I've seen other people use filters on their GB, but my setup is a pre-filter, True HEPA filter GB, I just use tyvek sleeves and rubber gloves and keep my alcohol lamp inside the box, no problems at all so far. I try to keep everything low voltage especially when dealing with the inside of my FC to be safe. Plus, with plywood, I can just stack my FC's on top of one another and the exported air just goes out a big notch I cut into the top side of the outer tub. I have the lights on a timer, and I have a tube to add water/h202 to the perlite when needed. It runs to a funnel which sits outside the outer tub. Stacking is a bit of a pain though when the cakes/minitubs start to fruit though, because I have to unstack everything once a day to harvest, remove aborts, etc. Other than harvest time, it's a perfect use of space. I just ordered a 4 shelf GH, but it'll be awhile until I figure out exactly how I am going to design it. It will be fully automated of course with water tanks, specialized heating, etc. So far I'm thinking of keeping it standing in a large basin with 6-8" of water with a few submerged heaters like 600w or so, this should keep the temp inside good for my environment, but, I haven't finalized on how I'm going to do it yet, still in the thought process. Anyway, just rambling now, have a good one.
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