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Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage
    #14394494 - 05/03/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Good evening ladies and gentleman :stoned:



I somehow stumbled upon some of my experiences and I want to know, If anyone has witnessed something similar, and what you think about it.


It hapens from time to time, mostly (or all the time,not sure) with ppl I know well. While we having a conversation, out of the blue I get a idea of some new topic or stuff to talk about, and after less than 1 second, my discussion partner says exactly it.


This is happening to me on a normal basis, lets say 1 time per month, possibly more. In some ocasions, I told the other person about it. Like to my mother :smile: On the other cases, most of the time, I just realize it but dont mention it at all.


With my friend I know for the longest time, with who I ate many many acids, I have it extremely much. With others I have it less. It happened to me at least 100x times I guess. Also with the abovementioned longterm friend, he many times told me: "I was thinking exactly about the same 1 sec before you told it". or "shit, thats what I was going to say :smile: "



I have an idea, that it can originate from the deep knowing of that other persons way of thinking, or having it corelated because of longterm friendship. And than being able to make presumption based on logical thinking. Thats the only rational explanation I have.


But it has flaws...


-why is it ALWAYS just a VERY short time before someone says what I thaught? Its still the same duration, it isnt a 1 second, its just a small fracture of second.

-manytimes, the new topic I predicted was in no relation to what we talked about before, at least I didnt see any.

-its still the same, it comes from nowhere. So it ISNt like I use my brain to predict what someone will say based on my knowledge of him. It instantly IS there without thinking about it, at least thats how I observe it.




So my opinion on this is following:



I think this can be some kind of basic telepathy, recieving of simple basic thaughts that are in that moment created by someone I know well and comunicate with in that exact moment. Comunication help me to "tune" to that person, seeing him also. With this setting, Im seldom able to cath some random thaught. And so is my longterm acid friend from childhood when we talk with eachother.

This is basic lvl, more advanced is something like:
- no need to see the person
- no need to "tune" using a conversation
- no need to know that person at all
etc. you get my drift.



I dont think it can be explained only with the knowledge of the other person, thus being able to predict him based on logical assumption. At least, not in all cases. I dont have a time to make any logical assumtions, it just comes in instant before its sayed. (this can be ilusion, hidden thaughts, subconscious)



Im sure someone around here maybe had that experience, read a books about or has any idea about it. Im looking forward, I always wanted to speak with more people about this, but in real life, this can be a little problem, as you can surely imagine...

Everyone is full of prejudice, and I dont want to explain everybody and all the time that Im sane, fuck that :crazy2:


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: Network23]
    #14394564 - 05/03/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The first time I did LSD me and friend we're given way too much. The whole entire time we had some kind of connection. Like we both knew what we were thinking but no words were said. It was really weird. I still don't understand it. But to this day him and I are better friends than ever because of that experience.

Edited by Third i (05/03/11 01:53 PM)

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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: Network23]
    #14394577 - 05/03/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Maybe LSD can cause ones brain to transmit signals who knows... Im going away soon with a group of friends and were all going to be on acid, i think it maybe an idea to conduct a few experements on this while were all on LSD! Im goin to look in to this!
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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: microdotty]
    #14394701 - 05/03/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

have a good one :smile:

in bigger groups, only kind of "sharing" I witnessed was sharing of hallucinations. We saw same things. One time, I had a sense of telepathy with my friend while on acid, but it was more that we wanted it to happen than the other way I think, cant really remember.

I just have it sober as a after-effect, I have tripped for cca 150 times during 14 years, with some 2 pauses if I remember right which took few years.

I dont remember having it before I starded doing psychedelics, but thats too long ago to remember to me :smile:


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: Network23]
    #14394780 - 05/03/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

back when i 1st started trippin i had this same dream for about a week, it wasnt exactly the same dream i jus had this strong feel of trippin in the dream. then i went to a b-day party for my new friend/connection and i ate 3 hits of some strong stuff, and kept havein that dream. kept feeling like i jus woke up. well the sleepin dream ended in a big ass fight bout me gettin out of hand. and so i told my buddy i had to leave before that part of the dream became real. the rest of it did so why not the end.


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: Network23]
    #14394809 - 05/03/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah this happens to me all the time too. Mostly with my girlfriend. It's more common with regular mushroom and dmt use for me, and less common during periods were I'm not tripping very often.


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: roombird]
    #14394826 - 05/03/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You and your friends have familiar conversations, similar experiences, and probably matching viewpoints and ideas on a variety of subjects.  The fact that you enjoy LSD and psychedelics in general often bring about what seem to be synchronistic experiences, I'm not surprised that you've latched onto this recurring concept.  Add the lingering effects of powerful drugs to daily routines and all sorts of surprising things happen. 

Unfortunately, all it will ever be is a vague, frustratingly fleeting feeling that can never be understood.  However, it can be misunderstood and therein lies the road to delusion. 

Go easy, but if such feelings increase, go to a casino and see if you can turn it into a goldmine.


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: joemolloy]
    #14394921 - 05/03/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What you wrote in 1st part is the rational explanation I have also offered, but as I sayed, it has flaws. So can you be bothered to write something to explain me, how the flaws I described fit in this kind of explanation?


>>However, it can be misunderstood and therein lies the road to delusion.

misunderstood as what? :smile:


>> Go easy, but if such feelings increase, go to a casino and see if you can turn it into a goldmine.


Will do, as soon as dice and cards will have their own thaughts... :laugh:

GN all


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: vegantoker]
    #14394955 - 05/03/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

vegantoker said:
Yeah this happens to me all the time too. Mostly with my girlfriend. It's more common with regular mushroom and dmt use for me, and less common during periods were I'm not tripping very often.





interresting coleration between usage and occurance of the effect. How many times you tripped? how long are you in psychedelics? does your GF trip with you?


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: Network23]
    #14395047 - 05/03/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Network23 said:
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vegantoker said:
Yeah this happens to me all the time too. Mostly with my girlfriend. It's more common with regular mushroom and dmt use for me, and less common during periods were I'm not tripping very often.





interresting coleration between usage and occurance of the effect. How many times you tripped? how long are you in psychedelics? does your GF trip with you?




I've used dmt about 60 or so times and mushrooms about 10-15 times so far I don't keep that good of track so those numbers are intentionally conservative.

I've been doing  psychedelics on a regular basis for about 2 years now.

yes my gf trips with me sometimes, mostly mushrooms though. she's only done dmt a few times its a bit too intense for her, but she has done 5g of mushrooms with me before. our normal dose is 3.5g minimum to 4.5g for a "typical" trip.

in addition to the telepathic experiences you mentioned, I've had the experience of knowing what someone was going to say word for word for a few sentences before they said anything and was able to say every word in my head they were saying aloud. that's only happened twice in my life that I can remember. the first time was in 7th grade before I had done any psychedelics.

So much for these experiences only being "vague frustrating feelings" :rolleyes:


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: vegantoker]
    #14395095 - 05/03/11 04:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quick eat a ten strip and get to that casino!!! :awecid:

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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: Network23]
    #14395546 - 05/03/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Network23 said:
What you wrote in 1st part is the rational explanation I have also offered, but as I sayed, it has flaws. So can you be bothered to write something to explain me, how the flaws I described fit in this kind of explanation?


>>However, it can be misunderstood and therein lies the road to delusion.

misunderstood as what? :smile:





It can be misunderstood as telepathy.  I believe telepathy is delusion, deception, or misinterpreted coincidence.  I've been told I am close-minded though.  I've also been told I am rational, logical, and critically minded.  At least most can agree that I am an opinionated asshole and my professional opinion is that you have misinterpreted coincidences through the lens of your psychedelic goggles.


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: joemolloy] * 1
    #14395598 - 05/03/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have definitely had long periods of time with friends and uncle cid hanging out were we dont even have to talk for hours just just look and nod. For some reason we always know what the other meant or was asking for.... I have had sober friends baby sit us and it always freaks them out..... so i do have confirmation.... Its crazy, i love it :smile:

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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: joemolloy]
    #14395613 - 05/03/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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It can be misunderstood as telepathy.  I believe telepathy is delusion, deception, or misinterpreted coincidence.  I've been told I am close-minded though.  I've also been told I am rational, logical, and critically minded.  At least most can agree that I am an opinionated asshole and my personal opinion is that you have misinterpreted coincidences through the lens of your psychedelic goggles.




Fixed. :super:


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: vegantoker]
    #14395635 - 05/03/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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vegantoker said:
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joemolloy said:

It can be misunderstood as telepathy.  I believe telepathy is delusion, deception, or misinterpreted coincidence.  I've been told I am close-minded though.  I've also been told I am rational, logical, and critically minded.  At least most can agree that I am an opinionated asshole and my personal opinion is that you have misinterpreted coincidences through the lens of your psychedelic goggles.




Fixed. :super:




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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: Network23]
    #14395694 - 05/03/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I do agree with joemolloy... They're prob just delusions but who am I to say


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: joemolloy]
    #14395760 - 05/03/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not a shaman, but I play a doctor on the shroomery.  And no, your insurance doesn't cover this visit.




That's ok, doctors don't get paid for offering unsolicited advice. Especially not fake ones.  :ignorethetroll:


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: vegantoker]
    #14395803 - 05/03/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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vegantoker said:
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I'm not a shaman, but I play a doctor on the shroomery.  And no, your insurance doesn't cover this visit.




That's ok, doctors don't get paid for offering unsolicited advice. Especially not fake ones.  :ignorethetroll:




I'm not sure if you are joking around or not with your troll animations.  But imagine I were a troll by saying that the OP does not have telepathy?  That's a troll?  Maybe in a fucking psych ward I'd be a troll.  It's like the Twilight Zone in here sometimes.

P.S.  The advice was solicited.


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: joemolloy]
    #14396066 - 05/03/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I dont think your a troll. I just thought the animation fit how I felt about the situation.

Its almost as if you think we don't know the materialistic viewpoint on these topics exist. I don't know about anyone else but I'm starting to think I'm telepathic because every time I see your avatar I already know what your going to say. Doesn't it get boring repeating the same thing over and over again?


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Re: Telepathy experience anyone? Longterm LSD usage [Re: vegantoker]
    #14396129 - 05/03/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I dont think your a troll. I just thought the animation fit how I felt about the situation.

Its almost as if you think we don't know the materialistic viewpoint on these topics exist. I don't know about anyone else but I'm starting to think I'm telepathic because every time I see your avatar I already know what your going to say. Doesn't it get boring repeating the same thing over and over again?




Sorry to question or insult your religious/mystical/spiritual/superstitious/telepathic beliefs brother.  Carry on.


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