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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: iamnotadream]
    #14394279 - 05/03/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No, but people who condone these things are just as bad as the people who commit these acts of insanity. That way of thinking is what keeps this shit going and adds to the ignoance and suffering of the world.


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Kada]
    #14394307 - 05/03/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

He didnt even shoot back at them.

Not trying to bring up conspiracy theories here but this smells so fishy, cant believe people believe this without any evidence at all.

The world has gone mad due to all the mainstream-shit we get served everyday. Ignorance is mafakking bliss i guess...


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Kada]
    #14394354 - 05/03/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

al-Qaeda doesn't see it that way.  Osama sure as hell didn't.


Long story short, Osama had beef with the U.S. military.  Instead of retaliating against the military, he went after the throats of innocent lives who wanted nothing to do with war, or violence.  He went after the wrong people.


Yet, he had no problem taking the Soviets head on.  He was considered a "freedom fighter".  Why couldn't he do the same to the U.S. military?


Granted, there's been some fucked up things that have happened in Iraq, but did the victims of the World Trade Center have anything to do with it?  Didn't make any difference anyway.  They were American.  Death to America, says he.


Because you are American, and don't believe in Allah, you are an infidel.


It's completely inappropriate.  We, the civilians, are NOT the bad guys.  He killed civilians anyway, and he was damn proud of it.  He earned his death sentence.


Although I will agree with one thing here; the celebration is getting to be too much.  At first it was like, hell yea score one for the team, but then everyone seems to be forgetting that we are not even close to ending the war.

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: liquidlounge]
    #14394368 - 05/03/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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liquidlounge said:
He didnt even shoot back at them.

Not trying to bring up conspiracy theories here but this smells so fishy, cant believe people believe this without any evidence at all.

The world has gone mad due to all the mainstream-shit we get served everyday. Ignorance is mafakking bliss i guess...





why is that fishy? the man was a coward and not a fighter; he only used guns in pr and propoganda, not in the field.


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Taco Chef] * 1
    #14394434 - 05/03/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

He was anything but a coward. You obviously know nothing about him or a thing he has done but what the media says. He fought on the front lines and earned the respect of veteran soldiers. He may have done some fucked up shit, but he wasn' t a coward by any means.


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: pouihi]
    #14394479 - 05/03/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Sure, held in an invaded Iraq, where US have interfered with basically anything they shouldn't have.
Besides the oil I don't see what was actually their problem with Iraq, you don't see Americans invading African countries that live under dictatorships to free them, or Latin America for that matter.





you're making the assumption that this was about oil, Iraq was avout
violations of UN sanctions and a surrender agreement from a decade earlier

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Kada]
    #14394484 - 05/03/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i'm willing to change my belief based on other evidence; yes, what i have read of him was of someone who did not go to the front lines, but as always i'm willing to read more


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Taco Chef]
    #14394491 - 05/03/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

A few pages back i posted a breif summery of how he got where he was and how he was a freedom fighter in the US employ.


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Kada]
    #14394530 - 05/03/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This really shows the true nature of americans :nonono:

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #14394563 - 05/03/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

what? bin laden's history of being funded by america then later assassinated by america

or the fact that in this thread, on a psychedelic website, there are still dumb americans cheering over the murder of a "terrorist"?


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Kada]
    #14394574 - 05/03/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Kada said:
America asked to get fucked with. It was sad, but it also was justified by murdering civilians in the middle east over and over. We dropped hundreds of tons of nuclear waste all over Afghanistan in the 90's and now the infant death rate is sickening because of it. We dropped a shit TON of more nuclear waste on Iraq as well. Depleted uranium doesn't just fuck up your immune system, it destroys genetics.




bullshit, the US pretty much stayed out of Afghanistan until 1998 whe the
US launched an attack against Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan in
retaliation for the bombing of 2 embassies and none of the missiles used
had nuclear payloads... in the 90s we were busy in Iraq with Saddam and
occupied in central europe with the genocide of Bosnian by Milosevic


the infant mortality rate in afghanistan has been in a decline for decades and none of it has to do with the US presence there

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/afghanistan/mortality-rate-infant-per-1-000-live-births-wb-data.html

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We deserved to get fucked up. I don't think it was right, but we had it coming. Just like we have more coming for all the fucked up shit were doing now.





for what? what did you do when you were in the corp, when and where did
you serve, you certainly didnt learn dick about US actions in the middle
east while you were in because you damn sure dont know dick about it now


why not show us the statistics of pre 1991 iraqi birth defects and post
1991 statistics, dont just link us to a 2009 news article or some pictures
of a few dozen kids with birth defects because that's not proof of
anything other than a few dozen kids with birth defects

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Kada]
    #14394585 - 05/03/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Kada said:
A few pages back i posted a breif summery of how he got where he was and how he was a freedom fighter in the US employ.




one that was very inaccurate

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: dynomite]
    #14394586 - 05/03/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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dynomite said:
what? bin laden's history of being funded by america then later assassinated by america

or the fact that in this thread, on a psychedelic website, there are still dumb americans cheering over the murder of a "terrorist"?




Both of those, for lack of a better word. Its fuckin retarded.

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14394599 - 05/03/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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or the fact that in this thread, on a psychedelic website, there are still dumb americans cheering over the murder of a "terrorist"?





So what would be an appropiate response on a psychedelic website?
And what is he if not a terrorist?

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He was anything but a coward. You obviously know nothing about him or a thing he has done but what the media says. He fought on the front lines and earned the respect of veteran soldiers. He may have done some fucked up shit, but he wasn' t a coward by any means.





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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14394601 - 05/03/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Kada said:
America asked to get fucked with. It was sad, but it also was justified by murdering civilians in the middle east over and over. We dropped hundreds of tons of nuclear waste all over Afghanistan in the 90's and now the infant death rate is sickening because of it. We dropped a shit TON of more nuclear waste on Iraq as well. Depleted uranium doesn't just fuck up your immune system, it destroys genetics.




bullshit, the US pretty much stayed out of Afghanistan until 1998 whe the
US launched an attack against Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan in
retaliation for the bombing of 2 embassies and none of the missiles used
had nuclear payloads...




Depleted uranium, which was used almost exclusively. Is nuclear waste....




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/10/fallujah-birth-defects-ra_n_571119.html

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14394607 - 05/03/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Huge rise in birth defects in Falluja

Iraqi former battle zone sees abnormal clusters of infant tumours and deformities

    * Martin Chulov in Falluja
    * guardian.co.uk, Friday 13 November 2009 19.24 GMT

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Doctors in Iraq's war-ravaged enclave of Falluja are dealing with up to 15 times as many chronic deformities in infants, compared to a year ago, and a spike in early life cancers that may be linked to toxic materials left over from the fighting.
...A group of Iraqi and British officials, including the former Iraqi minister for women's affairs, Dr Nawal Majeed a-Sammarai, and the British doctors David Halpin and Chris Burns-Cox, have petitioned the UN general assembly to ask that an independent committee fully investigate the defects and help clean up toxic materials left over decades of war – including the six years since Saddam Hussein was ousted.

"We are seeing a very significant increase in central nervous system anomalies," said Falluja general hospital's director and senior specialist, Dr Ayman Qais. "Before 2003 [the start of the war] I was seeing sporadic numbers of deformities in babies. Now the frequency of deformities has increased dramatically."

The rise in frequency is stark – from two admissions a fortnight a year ago to two a day now. "Most are in the head and spinal cord, but there are also many deficiencies in lower limbs," he said. "There is also a very marked increase in the number of cases of less than two years [old] with brain tumours. This is now a focus area of multiple tumours."






Dr. Trina Yadgari, an obstetrician at Istiqlal Hospital in Kabul, said that in 2008, 16 out of 3,700 children born at the hospital had some sort of birth defect, while in 2009 there were 4,000 births and 34 birth defects.

Read more: http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2011/03/29/number-of-children-born-with-deformities-increasing.html#ixzz1LJzkLjfm


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: dynomite]
    #14394614 - 05/03/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Bullshit, theres like no stats on that




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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Kada]
    #14394619 - 05/03/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Kada said:
He was anything but a coward. You obviously know nothing about him or a thing he has done but what the media says. He fought on the front lines and earned the respect of veteran soldiers. He may have done some fucked up shit, but he wasn' t a coward by any means.





he was on the 'front line' when his position was over run in Jaji in 1987 and
in Jalalabad in 1989, he started wearing camo jackets and carrying a weapon
after his time in peshwar, the weapon was an AK he took from a dead soviet general

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14394622 - 05/03/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
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Kada said:
America asked to get fucked with. It was sad, but it also was justified by murdering civilians in the middle east over and over. We dropped hundreds of tons of nuclear waste all over Afghanistan in the 90's and now the infant death rate is sickening because of it. We dropped a shit TON of more nuclear waste on Iraq as well. Depleted uranium doesn't just fuck up your immune system, it destroys genetics.




bullshit, the US pretty much stayed out of Afghanistan until 1998 whe the
US launched an attack against Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan in
retaliation for the bombing of 2 embassies and none of the missiles used
had nuclear payloads...




Depleted uranium, which was used almost exclusively. Is nuclear waste....




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/10/fallujah-birth-defects-ra_n_571119.html





and where's the historical statistics, not some post 2009 news article

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14394623 - 05/03/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So all the Depleted Uranium we dropped on them isn't harming them or effecting births?


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