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Offlineitshellion
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    #14394023 - 05/03/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: itshellion]
    #14394055 - 05/03/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

why would you get 6 syringes of the same strain??  "Operation", sounds like your trying to make a quick buck  not trying to be a dick but if your just trying  to get the most grams for the cheapest, easiest and quickest and dont care about the science your gona be fuked.


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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: itshellion]
    #14394056 - 05/03/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Those are spore syringes. Each contains probably millions of spores, and one syringe will get you started....

But not for 1 jelly jar.....

Since you're considering using a jelly jar with untapered mouth I have to assume you really DONT grasp the entire process, and urge you to watch the videos again.

Ace hardware will special order the 1/2 pint widemouth jars for you. If you're really in a hurry the tall halfpints will also work, tho i have yet to try them.

Go read some man. One video doesn't do this hobby any justice really, that's just one guy's technique. It will get you going in the right direction but you have to use everything he's using.

With those jelly jars you wont be able to get a brown rice flour cake out of there.

With your level of experience, I suggest cakes, and I suggest you do it right and get the right jars and look this kinda stuff up because it's all there in that video u watched 100 times and deviating from standard practice on your first grow is begging for disaster


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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: itshellion]
    #14394057 - 05/03/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Dude if you've seen the video a 100 times you should know exactly what to do.

Do the cakes, they're meant for newbs, but don't use those jars. You'll have a bitch of a time getting a colonized cake out of those jars (pickle jar has shoulders and jelly jar is tapered the wrong way).

Number one thing with this hobby is PATIENCE! Others on here will tell you the exact same thing.

Go to the grocery store and get a few dozen wide-mouthed jars. If you can't find the short fat ones, I've had success with the 8oz jelly jars (Kerr or Ball). I've seen them at Wal-mart too.


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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: itshellion]
    #14394060 - 05/03/11 11:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

First off its really worth the time to go out an dget the correct supplies. I myself am a noobie. Ive been reading these forums for weeks now and just started my grow not 3 days ago. The more accurate the supplies the better your results will be. Time and patience are key in this grow.

As far as how much yield. From what ive read you will end up getting anywhere from 2-10Grams dry per a cake avg. Each cake will use about 1cc of one of your syringe.

When starting out i would say go out. Get the correct materials for PF Tek (Verm, BRF, 1/2 Pint wide mouth jars).

Also start small then build up. Start with a 12 pack of jars. which will use about 12CC's (so 1 full syringe of spores and 2ccs of a second or so).


Have fun and patience is the key.

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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: itshellion]
    #14394064 - 05/03/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: sporesmores420]
    #14394067 - 05/03/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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sporesmores420 said:
why would you get 6 syringes of the same strain??  "Operation", sounds like your trying to make a quick buck  not trying to be a dick but if your just trying  to get the most grams for the cheapest, easiest and quickest and dont care about the science your gona be fuked.




I have to agree with this. BTW nobody is going to be able to tell you how much you will yield do not even ask.


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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: itshellion]
    #14394071 - 05/03/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

First things, First.

You need to Read.  Read A LOT.  Just take an entire day and read as much as you can in the "Mushroom Cultivation" section on this site, not in the forum.

I would suggest to start with the PF tek and master that first.  Some others may say jump right into spawning but judging by the questions you are asking, it seems like you have a lot more research and reading to do, which is why I am suggesting the PF tek.  I started there and it got my feet wet into this hobby and I worked up from there.

Those jars, by the way, will not work out for the PF tek as they tapered and will not allow the fully colonized cake to slide out easily.

You want jars with smooth straight edges.

You can find canning jars at your local hardware or grocery store.  pick up the wide mouth 1/2 pint jars.  Kerr or Ball works fine.

Also, you can inoculate at least 10 jars per every 1 spore syringe you have... so you have enough spores to inoculate about 60 jars. 

First thing I would suggest is to read as much as you can on this site before you touch anything.

Good luck and all the best to you!

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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14394122 - 05/03/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i have used pickle jars when i first started, they were free/affordable with food stamps- plus who doesnt love pickles. but only for grains. clean and pc for extra measures before using. thats all i got to say about that.


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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14394174 - 05/03/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Alright thanks for the help fella's the only reason i bought 6 was because i didnt know how much 1 syringe would make and better to have some extra just in case i mess up.

I will update this when i have the right supplies and do one cake at a time


ON THE SEARCH FOR SOME BETTER JARS


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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: itshellion]
    #14394206 - 05/03/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: itshellion]
    #14394209 - 05/03/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

1 syringe can inoculate 10-12 jars (10 = 1cc/per/jar 12 = .75cc/per/jar thru 4 inoculation points).  If you cant acquire 1/2 pint wide mouth or the tall 1/2 pint jars you can always look into "Plastic Tek" (using plastic storage container with the triangle and PP 5 symbol.  If you choose that method I recommend  Ziploc's half pint/8oz small "Smart Snap" containers.


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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: itshellion]
    #14394211 - 05/03/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

u need 1/2 pint wide mouth straight sided jars for PF tek... go to wallmart and pick up a dozen for like 9 bucks...


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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: itshellion]
    #14394250 - 05/03/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14394518 - 05/03/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Plus those are quart size. Waaaay too big. They'll probably stall or contaminate before they fully colonize.

Make sure you buy 1/2 pint jars.


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Re: 1st time shroom grow [Re: Chez man]
    #14395624 - 05/03/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

im interested to see the pics of the out come of this grow.  get the wide mouth pint jars. some brf and verm and your set


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