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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Coaster] 3
#14392206 - 05/02/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Coaster]
#14392448 - 05/03/11 12:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is amusing that Obama based a huge part of his campaign opposing Bush's policies on Gitmo & other similar shit, only to quietly continue them once he got elected.
Barry 2008: "Gitmo is evil, unjust, etc...I promise to close it! HOPECHANGE!!11!"
Barry 2011: (After nabbing Osama from a Gitmo lead) "I gave the order to kill Osama, it was MY directive, MY orders, MY kill, MY idea, MINE. Did I mention who gave the order?"
Looks like we traded the retarded cowboy for Chicken Little. Take it fuckin' easy man, you're the president. I don't think anyone was chalking this kill up to Eisenhower...
Also to whoever was talking about Koestler's pessimism, yeah true that. Not a whole lot of optimistic stuff was coming out of Eastern Europe in between 1920-1989, but Koestler was a dark dude. Spends all of The Gladiators explaining why Spartacus was fucked for refusing to be ruthless, and spends all of Darkness At Noon explaining why Rubashov is fucked for doing the opposite. Not really surprising that he tried to off himself so many times
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: PMATL]
#14392547 - 05/03/11 01:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is amusing that Obama based a huge part of his campaign opposing Bush's policies on Gitmo & other similar shit, only to quietly continue them once he got elected.
Barry 2008: "Gitmo is evil, unjust, etc...I promise to close it! HOPECHANGE!!11!"
Barry 2011: (After nabbing Osama from a Gitmo lead) "I gave the order to kill Osama, it was MY directive, MY orders, MY kill, MY idea, MINE. Did I mention who gave the order?"
omm yea 
he claimed it so obvious how pathetic of him. he should of just said him, clinton,bush and the american people did it. but he claimed it like the little award winning, liar he is.
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Shins]
#14393036 - 05/03/11 06:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Buzz of with your trolling. It's making me angry.
SHOW YOUR EVIDENCE
SHOW YOUR EVIDENCE
SHOW YOUR EVIDENCE
SHOW YOUR EVIDENCE
Where the fuck is your evidence that you base your reality and beliefs on?
Insanity!
Show me now, or screw off with the inflammatory tinfoil thing.
DO YOU NOT REALIZE YOU ARE BASING YOUR BELIEFS ON FALLACY. DO YOU NOT REALIZE YOU ARE BASING YOUR BELIEFS ON FALLACY. DO YOU NOT REALIZE YOU ARE BASING YOUR BELIEFS ON FALLACY.
God how does one get through to that type of person?
Wow!
This mini-meltdown seems pretty revealing of the way conspiracy-spouting people come to these outrageous conclusions. Note that the person to which Shins responded did not make any claims of their own other than criticizing Shins beliefs and lack of logical argument as conspiratorial silliness.
Shins, in return, reveals that he is sure he knows that not only did his opponent have a position on the merits of the debated subject, but that he knows what it is. He then proceeds to criticize this position that he apparently divined from the aether, and proceeds at some length to criticize the straw man he made up and various characteristics of this fictitious effigy of his own making.
The kicker is that even if his fictitious picture of his opponent's beliefs were true, his criticism does nothing to alleviate that criticism levided against his claims: his whole argument is that this effigy he's manufactured and presumed to represent the beleifs of his opponent has beliefs that are just as stupid as his- "I make up crazy things... but he does too!"
I think its pretty clear by the responses of Shins thus far: "You watch WWF wrestling don't you?", "Right, like the government is always telling the truth", and the constant references to "sheep watching western media/Fox News" that these conspiracy people tend to argue against some pretty elaborate mental images: they create an entire persona for those that disagree with them (a WWF wrestling fan who believes everything the government says and who watches and agrees with the opinion of western news outlets without any doubt as to their accuracy) and uses this manufactured reality to comfort themselves when their outlandish speculation is criticized.
This is pretty wild stuff. It seems like these guys have a whole fantasy world going on behind the scenes that rivals even their views as expressed in this thread!
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: johnm214] 1
#14393402 - 05/03/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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yogabunny said: ”I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.” - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
I was gonna use that MLK quote! 
Martin Luther King never actually said that It's funny how so many people are quoting this made up quote.
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: mongo lloyd]
#14393406 - 05/03/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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yogabunny said: ”I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.” - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
I was gonna use that MLK quote! 
Martin Luther King never actually said that It's funny how so many people are quoting this made up quote.
Source??
And even if its not his does it change the fact that it is a true statement?
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: DeadHearts]
#14393417 - 05/03/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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”I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.” - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr
So the only viable solution to ending this war is to hug a terrorist?
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: iamnotadream]
#14393427 - 05/03/11 08:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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iamnotadream said: So the only viable solution to ending this war is to hug a terrorist?
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: DeadHearts]
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yogabunny said: ”I will mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.” - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
I was gonna use that MLK quote! 
Martin Luther King never actually said that It's funny how so many people are quoting this made up quote.
Source??
And even if its not his does it change the fact that it is a true statement?
http://www.salon.com/technology/twitter/?story=/ent/tv/feature/2011/05/03/fake_mlj_quote_osama_death
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Yesterday, around 3 p.m., a trend started emerging on Twitter. People began reciting a quote from Martin Luther King Jr. that seemed strangely apt for this occasion:
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy."
The first person to cite it was the famous magician/Libertarian Penn Jillette, but the words quicky went viral, and the source got lost in the shuffle. The only problem? As Megan McArdle pointed out in The Atlantic, Martin Luther King never said that. Actually, the quote from MLK about enemies is:
"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
How did this other quote get misattributed to King? As McArdle says in her piece, "it's a bit too a propos. What 'thousands' would King have been talking about? In which enemy's death was he supposed to be rejoicing?" She also wonders, "Why? What do you get out of saying something pithy, and getting no credit for it?"
Penn admits to being the originator of the quote, though he claims it got messed up when he cut and pasted from a longer piece by King. I'm not sure if I believe him; I have a strong suspicion Penn just made it up in order to see how many people would blindly follow along and quote it as fact, without ever checking up on the sources. After all, this is the guy who created the documentary "Penn and Teller: Bullshit!" and the subsequent Showtime series about how easy it was to dupe people.
It's still a true statement, it's just funny as fuck with people quoting it left right and centre, like they're some profound philosopher, when it was just made up by a fucking magician.
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Coaster]
#14393680 - 05/03/11 10:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hahahaha I love you Coaster. Lets hug and exchange flowers.
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: dshow]
#14393720 - 05/03/11 10:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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the hubris and stupidity of man never ceases to amaze - me 
thanks for whoever it was that was sharing the video about the US and UK using spent uranium weapons... i can´t believe i never knew of that... i cringe now to remember that night as a nine year old boy staying up to midnight to watch those green streaks of light like acid rain on our TV screen... i think i was alone... i remember mixed feelings, on one hand being happy "The Americans" have our back and i won´t have to be scared anymore and to keep on carrying that stinky gas mask everywhere i went but still, deep down inside i understood that those bombs were aimed at cities, just like mine... knowing what i know today give´s that night a whole different picture, that war, of course, with different motives and different players and oh so many outcomes!
and to think they are still using them... oh my...
i also remember pictures of poor stupid Muslim extremists celebrating in masses every time a bus exploded in Israel, those images came to my mind yesterday when my girl was telling me "Bin Laden is dead, Americans are celebrating on the streets!" that´s what i saw, the stupid mass celebrating terror! if there was still somewhere a smidgen of respect in me for "Americans" it was lost yesterday! but more over, it scared me... it scares me... if this can happen in the US what the fuck is next?
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Simisu]
#14393764 - 05/03/11 10:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Simisu said: the hubris and stupidity of man never ceases to amaze - me 
thanks for whoever it was that was sharing the video about the US and UK using spent uranium weapons... i can´t believe i never knew of that... i cringe now to remember that night as a nine year old boy staying up to midnight to watch those green streaks of light like acid rain on our TV screen... i think i was alone... i remember mixed feelings, on one hand being happy "The Americans" have our back and i won´t have to be scared anymore and to keep on carrying that stinky gas mask everywhere i went but still, deep down inside i understood that those bombs were aimed at cities, just like mine... knowing what i know today give´s that night a whole different picture, that war, of course, with different motives and different players and oh so many outcomes!
and to think they are still using them... oh my...
i also remember pictures of poor stupid Muslim extremists celebrating in masses every time a bus exploded in Israel, those images came to my mind yesterday when my girl was telling me "Bin Laden is dead, Americans are celebrating on the streets!" that´s what i saw, the stupid mass celebrating terror! if there was still somewhere a smidgen of respect in me for "Americans" it was lost yesterday! but more over, it scared me... it scares me... if this can happen in the US what the fuck is next?
They were celebrating a mass murderers death. Muslims celebrated 3000 civilian innocent deaths on 9/11. You're pissed off? Why? Why would you be pissed off that Americans are glad the man who plots day and night to kill innocent civilians is dead? There is a huge difference between a Palestinian group cheering killing innocent civilians, and Americans celebrating a terrorist leaders death.
It turned from cheers of college students who were little kids when 9/11 happened, to grief and memories of 9/11 by the next day at ground zero.
Spent uranium tipped bullets are controversial, and perhaps shouldn't be used. They pierce armor but the dust can cause illnesses and death. I think they will be banned sooner or later.
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Irishdrunk] 5
#14393790 - 05/03/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cheering for the death of someone who targets civilians in my country and abroad is fine by me.
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#14393805 - 05/03/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Irishdrunk]
#14393848 - 05/03/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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and its not like Afghanistan has offered much to the world as a society.
The Taliban werent a bunch of feel good hippies who hated the USA cause we were treading on them.
Man people will mindless defend anyone as long as they are against the USA, Stalin Mao and now Bin Laden. Completely ignoring the facts
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Irishdrunk]
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Hell yes! 
I'm sure all the Afghanis and Iraqis will be cheering when Bush dies.
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: mongo lloyd]
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PreparationH said: Cheering for the death of someone who targets civilians in my country and abroad is fine by me.
Hell yes! 
I'm sure all the Afghanis and Iraqis will be cheering when Bush dies.
Yah, how ironic is that, after Bush ended their dictatorial governments for them. They didn't even have to struggle for freedom, they had it handed to them and then they spit in the face of the charitable people who give so much to help them. Sure he did it all wrong with bad intelligence on Iraqi weapons of destruction, but Saddam was brutal to his people. And then after they celebrate Saddams death they want the US out of the country the next day? It doesn't work that way. Ignorance is the Arab worlds biggest commodity.
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Irishdrunk]
#14393948 - 05/03/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Somewhat why if a nuke had been dropped I wouldn't have lost any sleep
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: PreparationH]
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Re: Official OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD Thread!!!!!!!!! [Re: Irishdrunk]
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PreparationH said: Cheering for the death of someone who targets civilians in my country and abroad is fine by me.
Hell yes! 
I'm sure all the Afghanis and Iraqis will be cheering when Bush dies.
Yah, how ironic is that, after Bush ended their dictatorial governments for them. They didn't even have to struggle for freedom, they had it handed to them and then they spit in the face of the charitable people who give so much to help them. Sure he did it all wrong with bad intelligence on Iraqi weapons of destruction, but Saddam was brutal to his people. And then after they celebrate Saddams death they want the US out of the country the next day? It doesn't work that way. Ignorance is the Arab worlds biggest commodity.
Yes, but weren't the atrocities in Iraq partly caused by American funding and supplying of weapons? I don't remember the Iraqis inviting foreign armies to go and fuck up their country even more than it already was anyway.
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