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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: DeadHearts]
    #14393469 - 05/03/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I'll probably get flamed the fuck for this; the USA has carried out far greater evil than Osama bin Laden ever did, or was ever accused of.



Then we can be flamed together. Because i agree 100% But wait. Its in the name
of freedom.....



Oh yeah, I forgot they did it all for freedom. That's all fine then. :lol:


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: mongo lloyd] * 4
    #14393488 - 05/03/11 09:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If your definition of evil is killing innocent civilians, the body count should clear that one up.

How many kids got killed/dismembered on 9/11, and how many in the subsequent years in Iraq and Afghanistan?


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    #14393515 - 05/03/11 09:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Instead of acting better than the "terrorists", we become just like them. Our rules and laws don't seem to apply to the government and when they prove that we all cheer? They are making murder a fun game and feeding it to the public. They could do this every day to someone in the middle east and GUARANTEE people would cheer it on. It's a sick world and we are not the good guys, we are just the other guys who have bigger guns. To most that makes us right, to me that makes us worse. We are just as ruthless for less than honerable reasons. Sure his death makes the world a little safer for us, but the way it all went down is shady and sinister. Osama had good reason to want to kill us, but since we would rather it be him than us he was the bad guy. We stirred the shit and this is just the government mopping up their mess. It's too bad were are ROYALLY fucking up the whole middle east and have been for years. All people see is what were shown tho, and that's evil attacking good and good prevailing. That is the sickest way to get a people behind murder and death, make them think they are doing good and give them a good show.

I got 5 bucks on the government actually having caught Osama and he is being torchered to death for information.


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Kada]
    #14393552 - 05/03/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Instead of acting better than the "terrorists", we become just like them. Our rules and laws don't seem to apply to the government and when they prove that we all cheer? They are making murder a fun game and feeding it to the public. They could do this every day to someone in the middle east and GUARANTEE people would cheer it on. It's a sick world and we are not the good guys, we are just the other guys who have bigger guns. To most that makes us right, to me that makes us worse. We are just as ruthless for less than honerable reasons. Sure his death makes the world a little safer for us, but the way it all went down is shady and sinister. Osama had good reason to want to kill us, but since we would rather it be him than us he was the bad guy. We stirred the shit and this is just the government mopping up their mess. It's too bad were are ROYALLY fucking up the whole middle east and have been for years. All people see is what were shown tho, and that's evil attacking good and good prevailing. That is the sickest way to get a people behind murder and death, make them think they are doing good and give them a good show.

I got 5 bucks on the government actually having caught Osama and he is being torchered to death for information.




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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Asante]
    #14393599 - 05/03/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think he got what he deserved. The USA had every right to push his shit in with a bullet. I agree it was a political assassination, but I also think that political assassinations are justified under such extenuating circumstances as these. :shrug:

That said, the media circus has disturbed me. The first news article I read about it was gruesomely invested in every little detail of the assassination, you could practically hear the author's keyboard jamming up with his saliva as you read it. :argh:

IMO we should not be celebrating his death the way we are. I feel like Americans should be able to find better things to celebrate than death. I wonder how much better we really are than our enemies if we take to the streets rejoicing because we killed the big bad.


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #14393609 - 05/03/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

survival of the fittest. you gonna cheap shot the top dog you better make sure they don't get back up.

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    #14393659 - 05/03/11 09:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Look into the history and you will see the US using and then shafting Osama. We were the antagonists from the get go in the middle east. We fucked their world up and then forgot about it for 10 years while they rotted in their now radiated country. While they watched a sickness grow we watched football. If he was in fact the one who planned 9/11 I would say we were asking for something. I don't condone murder of any kind especially innocent people, but look what we did to them first. I would have been insanely pissed off and willing to do anything for retribution. Well here we are now and everything has come full circle.

He is dead and we are right. We made our own enemies and we made our own terrorists. They hated us for a reason and it wasn't because we are a free country. It's because we fucked with them. They use "terror" because that's all they had. They didn't have a zillion dollar budget and the whole worlds resources ready to make new war machines for them.

Here is a little history of Osama and our dealing with him in the 80's. It shows the turning of the tides from "freedom fighter" to "terrorist".



http://www.defencejournal.com/sept98/osamabinladen.htm

Till a few days ago, Osama Bin Laden was only known to the anti-terrorist and intelligence wings of the law enforcement agencies of the world. In a few days so much has become known, one doubts even Osama Bin Laden can keep up with the flow of information about himself. As is normal for intelligence agencies over the world, fact is usually embellished with fable, the subject of enquiry seeming to appear in all odd places and involved in every terrorist incident, major or minor. All of a sudden he has become a threatening colossus with an extensive network all over the globe, one may well ask what were the intelligence agencies doing while the so-called ‘network’ was being built-up?
Osama Bin Laden started off as a freedom fighter, a Mujahideen, against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. In the early 80s this was not unusual since the Afghan movement attracted activists from all over the muslim world, what was unusual was that this was a moneyed man, a scion of a famous construction family in Saudi Arabia, personally worth over US$ 300 million. That he chose to face the rigour and the risks was indeed worth notice - and praise. He was actively sponsored by the CIA and other intelligence agencies, soon making his mark by acts of bravery, leading his men in action from the front. As any person of any military consequence knows, the sound of a bullet is a great equalizer, it separates the men from the boys. As a leader Osama Bin Laden earned the respect of men hardened in battle. The purity of his purpose symbolised his penchant for sacrifice, at that time suiting CIA and other handlers. As the Afghan War wound down, Osama Bin Laden came into his own and started looking at horizons beyond Afghanistan, falling first out of favour in his own homeland for his rather ‘radical’ views with respect to the established customs and traditions.

As the Afghan cauldron heated up due to internecine quarrel in the aftermath of the Russian departure, Osama remained mostly neutral in the fray, building up strong relationships in the geographical areas adjacent to and/or in the proximity of Pakistan, roughly approximating the area of origin of the Talibaan. Commanding respect among all Afghan factions, obviously there was something much stronger in his bonds with the present rulers of Afghanistan. His sanctuary in Afghanistan became that much safer with their advent into governance.

Contrary to intelligent opinion, the Talibaan are sensitive to world attention when it focuses on issues away from their core principles of Islam. The Talibaan hierarchy requested Osama Bin Laden to respect the rules of ‘sanctuary’ and that was to refrain from statements and/or acts that may propagate cross-border violence. A Press Conference that he gave in Afghanistan several months ago was so full of brimstone and fire that it was frowned upon by the Talibaan hierarchy. He was ‘requested’ to refrain from further such activity, spoken or in deeds, particularly against the US and other western governments. By all accounts, till the bombings of US diplomatic buildings in Nairobi and Dar-es-Salaam he kept his peace. While Osama Bin Laden has denied any involvement in the bombings, there is strong evidence given by held suspects to suggest a direct connection, a ‘smoking gun’ so to say. The moment non-essential US diplomatic personnel started being evacuated from Pakistan, even a layman could guess that a retaliatory US operation was very much on. With the arrival of US ships off the Pakistan coast, this was more or less a confirmed exercise. The lack of an aircraft carrier in the vicinity meant either that an assault would be mounted by air from the Gulf or more likely Cruise missiles would be used. On the evening of 20 August 1998, 60 Cruise missiles were fired at targets in Afghanistan. That it surprised official circles in Pakistan was a surprise since the Navy had already passed on to the Government the unusual presence of US warships outside Pakistan’s territorial waters. The discussions that Gen Jahangir Karamat, Chairman JCSC had with the Deputy Chairman US Joint Chiefs of Staff General Ralston, ostensibly on a refuelling stopover between 7:30 and 10:30 pm the same night, evoked the possibility of an attack on terrorist targets. Not only did the Chairman JCSC hold this to be unwarranted he immediately passed the information to the government, directly to the PM. A man of Gen Ralston’s military stature does not just casually drop into the country for dinner alone, that also at short notice.

The Cruise missiles devastated a couple of training camps in Afghanistan (made originally by CIA and CIA funds) where Osama Bin Laden was suspected to be. At least one of the camps was being run by the Harkat ul Ansar (HUA) for training Kashmiri Mujahideen. The Durand Line is rather elusive in the tribal territory of North Waziristan, most Afghans depend upon adjacent Pakistani towns for their socio-economic needs. Other than some initial confusion about missile damage in Pakistan itself, the information of the attack was received in some detail and quickly. By the time the ‘fog of war’ (to quote Clausewitz) cleared, one thing was certain, the attack had missed the prime quarry, causing human and material damage of some consequence, about two dozen dead, many more injured. However, it set off a storm of protest in the muslim world, specially in Pakistan. Out of nowhere Osama Bin Laden became the long-lost hero craved for by the muslim world. The missile attack unleashed forces that unless harnessed have the capacity to destroy the world as we live in today. From the upper reaches of Chitral down to the sandy beaches of Karachi, such widespread support has rarely been seen, albeit this religious awakening may be a will of the wisp and may fade away after a short span of time.

The US cruise missile attack on the Afghan bases was uncalled for and wrong, as wrong as were the bombings of the US Embassy buildings in Nairobi and Dar-es-Salaam. Two wrongs do not make a right. A terrorist act cannot be met with retaliation in a form equivalent to a terrorist act, particularly when it infringes on sovereignty and self-respect. The moment Osama Bin Laden attacked non-combatant targets, he stopped being a freedom fighter in the classical sense and became a terrorist. The worst thing any soldier can do is to kill an unarmed prisoner, even worse than that is targeting old people, women and children. A majority who died in the blasts in Dar-es-Salaam and Nairobi had no idea of the secret war being waged between the US and Bin Laden and even if they had they wanted no part in it. They were innocents caught in crossfire, deliberately engineered. There is no bravery in planting bombs and maiming innocents, that is the stuff of cowards. Should we accept the RAW atrocities against us as an act of war or pure terrorism? Similarly the US Cruise missile attack was hardly defencible, there is no honour in killing people in so-called training camps without warning and without proven provocation. Purely on the logic of escalation it sets off a cycle of violence between civilizations bringing some truth to Samuel P. Huntington’s ‘Clash of Civilizations’. It puts at risk US citizens all over the world, in turn it invites US reaction on a majority of muslims who are innocent of even thinking of any wrongdoing. Above all, it provides adequate grist to the fire and brimstone-types whose only logic is to resort to violence at the slightest pretext. While the US, as any other country, is well within it’s rights to react to acts of terrorism against it’s citizens, the modus operandi should be to go in for precise, surgical operations and they should be prepared to take casualties in the accomplishing of the mission rather than rely on the Cruise missile all-encompassing method. Before such an operation is launched there must be incontrovertible evidence of guilt. As the Cruise missile failing to clear Balochistan Province for technical reasons can verify, machines can and do go wrong.

Freedom fighters have to work on a fail-safe line with respect to only targeting military assets, sometimes civilian targets are considered fair game when directly related to the enemy effort. In Kashmir this modus operandi has been meticulously followed. Deliberately targeting unconnected civilians makes Osama’s ‘holy war’ suspect, almost as if the act of violence is more important than the stated purity of his campaign. Today, our media is highlighting him as a hero, the US missile attack put him on that pedestal, would we really like our sons to emulate his rather murky agenda, particularly when targeting non-combatants? As for the US, their Cruise missile attack will cause terrorism to proliferate instead of containing it, it will provide the Bin Ladens of the world more recruits. One man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist and vice versa. That sums up the dilemma that confronts both the US and Osama Bin Laden, once the darling of the CIA (and by extension the US), now the object of it’s concentrated hatred. Can one contain terrorism by countering it with terrorism? l


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: SlashOZ]
    #14393673 - 05/03/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

We can talk of what could of been done, but he's dead already.

It would of been good TV for a few weeks to see him be on trial. I wonder how many years he would of had.

Lets see, a few thoudand murdered. Conspiracy against the US government. International money laundering. Training terror cells. Attempted attack on US soil. Illegal trade of firearms. etc. etc. etc.

I now sentence you to 27893 years in federal prison for your crimes, and sentence you to the death penalty for the murder of 3 or more people lol.

I don't know.

It would have been a show, thats all.

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Patlal]
    #14393697 - 05/03/11 10:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

A report in 2001 that might show a bigger peak into why Osama Bin Laden hated us and what he was willing to do to achieve his goals and why. I don't agree with a few things that the author said, but it is a good timeline of events that shows how this all unfolded in the first place and why.




Osama bin Laden is a name now familiar to the average US citizen. Our media portrays him as a mindless religious zealot out to destroy the United States. But, of course, terrorists never act without reason. This is a view of Osama bin Laden from a somewhat informed American. It is informative not just for Americans, but also for the rest of the world.

What Americans Know of bin Laden

On February 26, 1993 a devastating explosion rocked the World Trade Center in New York. The country was in shock. "Bombings belong in Spain, Ireland, or Israel, not the here," we thought. Speculation swirled about who could possibly commit such a heinous crime. It would be early 1995 until Ramzi Yousef is captured in Pakistan for masterminding the bombing. Subsequent searching of his residence showed a financial tie to Osama bin Laden. This is the first most Americans heard of bin Laden. Very few Americans tied him to the deaths of American troop in Somalia a year and a half earlier.

Little was said about bin Laden until three years later. On August 7, 1998, bombs exploded in the US embassies in both Kenya and Tanzania. 224 people died and over 4500 were injured in the two attacks. Of those dead, 12 of were Americans. The bombings are immediately tied to bin Laden. Of little note to Americans was that this bombing occurred on the eighth year anniversary of the United Nations sanctions against Iraq and the ordering of US soldiers to the Middle East. Thirteen days later, the United States retaliated. Like the dual bombings, dual attacks by cruise missiles were sent to a training camp in Afghanistan and a chemical plant in Sudan. Americans are unaware of the mounting evidence that the Sudanese attack may have been unfounded. This chapter closes one month ago today. Four men were convicted of the embassy bombings.

The average American has heard little of substance about bin Laden in the past few years. A few scattered news stories about his failing health, but little else. This is what the average American knows about bin Laden. Joe American knows about the actions of a wealthy terrorist, but not his motive. Joe does not understand the context of his movement.

A Little More Background

Osama bin Muhammad bin Awad bin Laden was born in Riyadh in 1957. Osama's father, Muhammad, is leader of Saudi Arabia's wealthiest construction firm. As the 17th of 52 children, he stands to inherit over $300 million USD. Of course, that is when his father dies. He is likely to not inherit this money as Saudi Arabia has frozen all assets of Osama indefinitely. bin Laden graduated from King Abdul Aziz University in Jiddah in civil engineering in 1979 and prompted left Saudi Arabia for Afghanistan.

Afghanistan, a predominately Muslim country, was occupied by the Soviet Union in 1979. bin Laden joined a resistance movement against the "godless" USSR. This resistance, the mujahedeen, was funded in large part by the United States government. The enemy of our enemy is our friend. For the next ten years, bin Laden provided logistical and humanitarian aid to the mujahedeen. There is debate about whether he actively participated in battles. Eventually, the mujahedeen forced the Soviet Union to leave Afghanistan. This was an important turning point for bin Laden. A small group of freedom fighters had managed to beat one of the largest and most powerful armies in the world. This would later serve as a metaphor for his battle against the US.

bin Laden returned to Saudi Arabia in 1989 a hero. He quickly continued his work by denouncing the Saudi government. The government was seen by many as a corrupt regime. King Faisal destroyed any hope of long-term sustainability by focusing on short-term profits for himself. bin Laden fit nicely into the familiar role of freedom fighter. For his actions, he was confined to Jiddah. Normally, such vocal opposition would be met much more harshly in Saudi. bin Laden's lineage protected him from more serious punishment.

In 1991 the Saudi government asked the United States to intervene in the Iraq/Kuwait crisis. The United States sent troops over to Saudi start the Gulf War. The Saudi government's request was not the reason the US sent troops, but it is essential to understanding bin Laden. From bin Laden and many others's perspective, this was the start of the US occupation of Saudi Arabia. This occupation continues to this day. The Saudi dissident movement seeks to oust the Saudi government. The United States troops are a major obstacle. Saudi Arabia and the US are allies. The US also has major economic ties to oil in Saudi Arabia. The dissidents knew that the US normally responds with force when their economic interests are threatened. If the dissident movement was to be successful, it first needed to get the US out of Saudi Arabia.

How I See bin Laden (Author's view)

Up until this point, I have tried to be objective. What follows is my own opinion and conjecture. bin Laden's cause is essentially nationalistic. He wants the removal of the corrupt government. He is not alone. Saudi dissident groups exist throughout the world, especially in large cities such as London. His main concern is for his country and his people.

The United States stands in the way of bin Laden's goals. Our financial and military ties to Saudi Arabia protect its government. bin Laden first needs to oust the US troops before he can overthrow the government. He has experience in fighting huge countries. The success of the mujahedeen's conflict with the USSR has shown him that he can win. To do so, bin Laden needs a large base of people to join in his cause. Many Saudi's, however, are somewhat comfortable in their lives. They don't want to overthrow the government. Saudi Arabia does not meet the normal criteria of a state ready for a new government. Many of the citizens derive their living from either the government or the US troops. It is against their interests to change. As such, bin Laden needs to recruit people from outside of Saudi Arabia in his goal.

bin Laden has found the perfect vehicle to gain support: religion. Many Muslims, especially in the Middle East, already have at least suspicion of the United States. The US and USSR played the Middle East like cards during the cold war with little regard to how it effected the people. The US has unilaterally supported Israel in any dispute with Arab countries. Neocolonialism by American corporations is changing the Middle East, not always for the better. bin Laden has struck a chord with many Muslims, especially those living in the Middle East. He used the existing antagonism and combined it with Islam. By invoking Jihad on August 23, 1996, he catalyzed the more extreme Muslims of the world. He further combined religion into his own nationalistic cause when, in February 1998, he issued a declaration with several extreme Muslim groups that Muslims should kill Americans (including civilians) anywhere in the world. Osama bin Laden has taken his nationalistic campaign global by exploiting Islam.

I believe Osama bin Laden is a freedom fighter, fighting against the corrupt Saudi regime. His current war with the United States is a strategic move, the first step in overthrowing the Saudi government. Osama bin Laden has successfully abused Islam to achieve his own, nationalistic goals. While I support his goals, I disagree with the means. Religion has frequently been warped to suit the goals of extremists. What he does not realize is the long-term effects of his plan. Americans, in large, know nothing of Islam. What we do not know, we fear. For most Americans, bin Laden has replaced this ignorance with the conception that Muslim means terrorist. If all Muslims are terrorists, then stationing US troops in the Middle East is even more important. Americans will feel that we need to protect the Middle East from the Muslims (as illogical as that sounds). In the United States, bin Laden has found a different enemy than the USSR. His actions are setting back his own goals.

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/6/28/161618/294


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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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    #14393708 - 05/03/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I found it odd how everyone was parading in the streets and celebrating on the whitehouse front lawn.

I understand people were happy that he was killed, but I find it weird people are celebrating to this extent.


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    #14393722 - 05/03/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No joke. He really was dangerous and needed to be stopped before he caused more damage, but celebrating death is never a good thing. They should be celebrating the lives saved and the hardships that Osama won't continue against his enemies.

They were happy to see murder done.


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    #14393729 - 05/03/11 10:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that" Martin Luther King, Jr.


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Kada]
    #14393733 - 05/03/11 10:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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No joke. He really was dangerous and needed to be stopped before he caused more damage, but celebrating death is never a good thing. They should be celebrating the lives saved and the hardships that Osama won't continue against his enemies.

They were happy to see murder done.





i'd say that celebrating the death of osama is far healthier than watching some gruesome movie like saw.

osama is pretty much the only person who's death would get me to react in a good way. most people i would be indifferent to. a few people i would be sad about.

i think most people fall into those three categories. its not like america is opening up the obituary page of the newspaper to celebrate every morning.


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: A Day InThe Life]
    #14393737 - 05/03/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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A Day InThe Life said:
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that" Martin Luther King, Jr.




see the first page of thread as well as my first 2 posts on the second page.


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14393739 - 05/03/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

HA


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I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14393745 - 05/03/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)




:runaway:


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Nixon was a asshole. Just look at his biggest creation. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the DEA.

Which secretly stands for Demonizing Everyone by Allegations.

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: SlashOZ]
    #14393779 - 05/03/11 10:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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SlashOZ said:
survival of the fittest. you gonna cheap shot the top dog you better make sure they don't get back up.

America - 2
Japan - 0
Osama bin laden - 0



So your country is 'winning', or the best, because America has used nuclear weapons TWICE against many innocent people, and because America has virtually destroyed an entire region of the world, and unlawfully assassinated someone? You fucking disgust me. I don't condone terrorism at ALL, be it extremist Muslim, or extremist American.


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #14393784 - 05/03/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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mongo lloyd said:
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SlashOZ said:
survival of the fittest. you gonna cheap shot the top dog you better make sure they don't get back up.

America - 2
Japan - 0
Osama bin laden - 0



So your country is 'winning', or the best, because America has used nuclear weapons TWICE against many innocent people, and because America has virtually destroyed an entire region of the world, and unlawfully assassinated someone? You fucking disgust me. I don't condone terrorism at ALL, be it extremist Muslim, or extremist American.




want to tell us a little about england and their rich history of "terrorism", or are you just going to talk shit and pretend like your country is perfect?


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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #14393795 - 05/03/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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mongo lloyd said:
Quote:

SlashOZ said:
survival of the fittest. you gonna cheap shot the top dog you better make sure they don't get back up.

America - 2
Japan - 0
Osama bin laden - 0



So your country is 'winning', or the best, because America has used nuclear weapons TWICE against many innocent people, and because America has virtually destroyed an entire region of the world, and unlawfully assassinated someone? You fucking disgust me. I don't condone terrorism at ALL, be it extremist Muslim, or extremist American.




i like how you think america ruined the middle east. you might want to look into the history that very clearly documents how that part of the world was totally fucked long before america got involved. although our European friends did have a large hand in fucking that place up along with africa. in fact most of the problems are a result of European colonization in the 1600's-early 1900's not america in the later part of the 20th century. this doesn't make our war in iraq right or anything. however, to say that america is to blame for the middle east's problems is to completely misunderstand what is actually happening. osama's death is something worth celebrating american or not.


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"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
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"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
"Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)

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Re: Has the whole world gone mad?! Pub poll reality check. [Re: Samuel L Jackson] * 1
    #14393806 - 05/03/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

whateverrrrrr haters gunna hate.

y0ou guys go have your sadface party while me and my friends celebrate.

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