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Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed
    #14393404 - 05/03/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

First of all it's not about me, i just received a phonecall of a friend with a common friend that they told me he is still out of the world after four days. I think substance is acid(we didn't talk to much on the phone).

I have read a few reports of people that had longer trips and usually a good sleep wake them up. He didn't sleep to much either from what I asked.

Any advice is welcomed. This is serious. I only have this pieces of info but as soon as I will find out more I will write.

Thank you!


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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #14393419 - 05/03/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well first it definitely wasn't acid.
Acid is over in 6-12 hours with an afterglow.
Probably some RC?
You need to give more information.
Its impossible to guess.
Most likely one of the DO(X) compounds.
Or maybe bromo.


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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14393451 - 05/03/11 08:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It happened at a festival but he was the only guy that had this problem. And if it was any kind of doX he would still had to wake somehow. For sure he doesnt know what did he take. I told them to have patience with him. Only time will tell I guess. I was thinking about a xanax to put him to a good sleep.


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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: dumlovesyou]
    #14393476 - 05/03/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Definitely get the xanax to him.


Did he tell you how much he slept?


Not enough sleep is a mindfuck in and of itself.

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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: iamnotadream]
    #14393633 - 05/03/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hi,

hmmm that reply that it cant be LSD was fast :smile: Well if he took LSD and has Toxic psychosys now - it would look very similar to being tripping for 4 days. So it is completely possible it was LSD.

Sleep deprivation  will ofc make you trip on its own, but Im affraid that this is not the cause, maybe just a side effect.




I have the chance to have some similar experience, and I described my 4 days of tripping in one of my reports, you can find it if you interrested in a long reading.



Only thing i can think of to help that person is:
get him food and drink to get grounded
separate him from bad enviroment and create good one
support him and calm him

you can play some game on him, like: if you gonna drink this whole bottle of tea, you gonna get much better, this will help you get real... and drink bottle with him. He can believe it and it can really help if he do so.



Some xanax alternatives I dont know shit about, can work. Can fail too IMO. If you loose the comming down part while passed out on other drugs, you can fuck something up imo - the return could be not 100% - but as I sayed, I dont know nothing bout it.


ALSO: he can have brain chemicals messed up same as I did. Let him eat some walnuts or some other stuff which is good for your brain - use internet. After my trip this week, I felt not too ok, when I saw walnuts - I knew I need to eat em alot. While doing so, I was told they are good for brain. My feeling of being tired etc dissappeared VERY fast after digesting em. Also some pills for healthy brain can help, the free ones you dont need prescription to get em.


Good luck to that man


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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: Network23]
    #14393982 - 05/03/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if he's been tripping for 4 days, that does not sound like LSD AT ALL!
if i were in that situation, i would be balls deep in a bottle of xanax or clonazepam.


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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: s0nny]
    #14394050 - 05/03/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

He is probably way to anxious and sleep deprived he probably isn't fucked up from the drugs  but fucked up from his own mind.

I suggest he get some sleep or see a Dr.  If he is that concerned about it, asking all of us on the forums doesn't help you need to see a Dr.

And dont take random drugs next time.


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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14394100 - 05/03/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If he's been awake for four days after taking acid and probably a cocktail of other drugs, he's be tripping anyway just from being awake for four days!! I used to trip off 4 day speed binges!

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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: microdotty]
    #14394169 - 05/03/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

microdotty said:
If he's been awake for four days after taking acid and probably a cocktail of other drugs, he's be tripping anyway just from being awake for four days!! I used to trip off 4 day speed binges!




yeah after being awake for a few nights I start going insane.
not  a fun feeling :frown:


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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14394183 - 05/03/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think the government are taking this whole drug issue a bit far, i was out driving today and kept seeing "reduce speed now" signs at the side of the road...

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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: microdotty]
    #14394215 - 05/03/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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microdotty said:
I think the government are taking this whole drug issue a bit far, i was out driving today and kept seeing "reduce speed now" signs at the side of the road...




:lolsy:


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Something abut that anaesthetic rush... :inlove:

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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14394961 - 05/03/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I took too much DOB one time not knowing it, didn't fall asleep for a long while and it felt like the trip was extended for what seemed like forever. It was difficult but I rode it out...and now I've been vegetarian for 3 and 1/2 years. did me good.

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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: Mr.Knowitall] * 1
    #14394987 - 05/03/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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and now I've been vegetarian for 3 and 1/2 years. did me good.




There's nothing good about being a vegetarian.

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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: Mr.Knowitall]
    #14394999 - 05/03/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

dumlovesyou >> we need more details.

It seems pretty clear that your friend took some kind of DOx chemical and not LSD. But how much? What other drugs were taken with it? Is he on any kind of medication (anti-depressants? mood-stabilizers? etc)

What exactly is his condition? Is he just all tweakin' out and can't sleep, or is he having a psychotic episode? Can he talk down to earth or is he just spilling out gibberish? Does he respond to people or is he totally spaced out?

What kind of environment is he in right now? Is he just chillin' in his apartment? Does he have to be at school or work?

I would try to get him some xanax, valium, or vicodin to calm his nerves. Not too much, just enough to take the edge off. Have some friends around him at all times to keep an eye on him. He needs to know that people are looking out for him.

DO NOT LET HIM GO TO A MENTAL HOSPITAL!!! They will probably pump him full of a bunch of other drugs with will fuck his brain up even worse. Plus they will likely mistreat and abuse him. Mental hospitals are terrible places and those people won't know how to help your friend.


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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14396144 - 05/03/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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dumlovesyou >> we need more details.

It seems pretty clear that your friend took some kind of DOx chemical and not LSD. But how much? What other drugs were taken with it? Is he on any kind of medication (anti-depressants? mood-stabilizers? etc)

What exactly is his condition? Is he just all tweakin' out and can't sleep, or is he having a psychotic episode? Can he talk down to earth or is he just spilling out gibberish? Does he respond to people or is he totally spaced out?

What kind of environment is he in right now? Is he just chillin' in his apartment? Does he have to be at school or work?

I would try to get him some xanax, valium, or vicodin to calm his nerves. Not too much, just enough to take the edge off. Have some friends around him at all times to keep an eye on him. He needs to know that people are looking out for him.

DO NOT LET HIM GO TO A MENTAL HOSPITAL!!! They will probably pump him full of a bunch of other drugs with will fuck his brain up even worse. Plus they will likely mistreat and abuse him. Mental hospitals are terrible places and those people won't know how to help your friend.





Not to jack this thread but what do they pump in you at a funny farm? I want to get a better understanding and how those drugs may or may not be harmful. & the process, maybe i'll hit the search bar. If this has been covered no worries, here's a picture of my fresh supply of lsd to combat the inconvenience.



As to the OP, keep us updated too, I'm curious to hear more and the whole ordeal. Stuff sure can get sketch sometimes it's always good to have what knowledge you can take. Also, hope this guy gets calmed down soon.


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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: erikksonb]
    #14396580 - 05/03/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yummy vials. I have tripped balls from jet lag sleep deprivation it is intense.


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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: erikksonb]
    #14396909 - 05/03/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

erikksonb said:
Quote:

Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
dumlovesyou >> we need more details.

It seems pretty clear that your friend took some kind of DOx chemical and not LSD. But how much? What other drugs were taken with it? Is he on any kind of medication (anti-depressants? mood-stabilizers? etc)

What exactly is his condition? Is he just all tweakin' out and can't sleep, or is he having a psychotic episode? Can he talk down to earth or is he just spilling out gibberish? Does he respond to people or is he totally spaced out?

What kind of environment is he in right now? Is he just chillin' in his apartment? Does he have to be at school or work?

I would try to get him some xanax, valium, or vicodin to calm his nerves. Not too much, just enough to take the edge off. Have some friends around him at all times to keep an eye on him. He needs to know that people are looking out for him.

DO NOT LET HIM GO TO A MENTAL HOSPITAL!!! They will probably pump him full of a bunch of other drugs with will fuck his brain up even worse. Plus they will likely mistreat and abuse him. Mental hospitals are terrible places and those people won't know how to help your friend.





Not to jack this thread but what do they pump in you at a funny farm? I want to get a better understanding and how those drugs may or may not be harmful. & the process, maybe i'll hit the search bar. If this has been covered no worries, here's a picture of my fresh supply of lsd to combat the inconvenience.



As to the OP, keep us updated too, I'm curious to hear more and the whole ordeal. Stuff sure can get sketch sometimes it's always good to have what knowledge you can take. Also, hope this guy gets calmed down soon.




Neurologically, some pretty weird shit they dont even understand. I just read a conflicting report on a really popular antipsychatic that has proven to reduce brain mass and they dont know why...

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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: Janamil]
    #14398426 - 05/04/11 05:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

@the OP, give your friend some benzos.
:smile:


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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14399523 - 05/04/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've seen LSD throw people off their rockers for differing amounts of time. I had a friend that spent a week in a psychotic state from confirmed LSD, and also a good friend spent several months in an LSD-like state when he hit his head and got a concussion. But he was tripping for months until the effects faded. And those were all just LSD (and I know of a few more too...)

So LSD can certainly catalyze long lasting states of psychedelia/psychosis.

To eriksonb; They types of medications they give in mental hospitals range from Thorazine to klonazapam, Haldol, Haloperidol, etc. Not fun stuff :frown:

Going to a mental hospital is the worst and last option. It should only be considered if your friend is suicidal, hurting himself or others. If he is non-violent, let him wait it out.

Xanax can sometimes be your best friend in this situation...

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Re: Trip doesn't stop after 4 days, advice needed [Re: dwpineal]
    #14399619 - 05/04/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I agree with DW, not only does he have some first hand experience with things like this its sound advice.  I have also found xanax to help level out states like that.  I've generally used it to level tension from stimulants that seems to last several days for me.  Though I've found it to help flatten me back to baseline well during those times, which I've found beneficial.  Don't go crazy with it though.  Its very addictive and such, aswell as being able to get you right wasted tot he point a making horrible decisions.  But when worse comes to worse .5-1 mg can help bring your head back down from the clouds.  Just use with caution.


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