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infectedstyle
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Communication with mushrooms
#14393283 - 05/03/11 07:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm interested to know if shrooms bring out what's inside of me or put something in it that wasn't there before.
It's kind of hard to explain but i've been trying to talk with the mushroom spirit while tripping. But it's kind of hard to know for sure if there's actually something i am communicating with. Or i'm just talking gibberish to myself. :P I try to interact with the shrooms by sending thoughts to "it" and i do often receive a thought back that either wasn't surfacing my consiousness or is actually put in there by the plant.
Anyway i asked for the mushroom's intentions and basically it told me his intentions are to break me completely and then build me the way they want me to be. (funny how the bible states god created men in his likelyhood) Terrence Mckenna's jesus was a mushroom hypothesis makes more and more sense to me.
So.. can anyone shed some light in this phenomenom? Or while ur tripping try to ask what the mushrooms intentions are and see if u get the same answer back.
Edited by infectedstyle (05/03/11 07:59 AM)
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Libertin
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Many have had the experience of apparent communication with an 'other' during a mushroom trip. Most accept that this is a fragment of your own personality which has split away, giving the appearance of an external autonomous entity. Some would say it is your unconscious speaking to you.
I have experienced this and although the responses I received to my queries were at times unpredictable and surprising, I believe I was communicating with none other than myself. I've noticed that the 'communication from the mushroom' tends to express my true desires, it is rather natural/instinctual - none of the culturally conditioned nonsense of the ego. This has lead me to believe that the voice within the mushroom is one's own unconscious.
By the way, the 'Jesus was a mushroom' hypothesis is the work of John Allegro whose main interest in psychedelics was the Amanita Muscaria.
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limestoneman
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Re: Communication with mushrooms [Re: Libertin]
#14394806 - 05/03/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Last time I did shrooms there was no communication. I just became every soul, ever, at the same time and was like
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R2-D2
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Re: Communication with mushrooms [Re: limestoneman]
#14394956 - 05/03/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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you are a mushrooms
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psyeye
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Re: Communication with mushrooms [Re: R2-D2]
#14397577 - 05/03/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have always sensed a greater voice when I wander with the mushrooms, I believe it to be the greater mind, that which is in all of us or that which all of us are in. I started very young, I'm 40 now, and was lucky enough to have a good south american indian guide my path. I look back on my life since and know that it is the respect and seriousness with which I walked with the shrooms that made me the unique individual I am today. Genuinely compassionate, insightful and deeply reassured that a greater one watches over me.
That, and I'm a fuckin tripper!
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Re: Communication with mushrooms [Re: psyeye]
#14397646 - 05/03/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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my opinion is that you are communicating with your own mind while tripping and the things you think and see are just crazy-ass fucking projections of your own thoughts and experiences. kind of like dreaming I guess...
the thing that does suggest that shrooms put certain thoughts into your mind,like some inception (great movie) shit, is there are certain thoughts that people who do mushrooms have in common. like alot of psychonauts belive time is a cycle..and the mayans who did tons of mushies also belive time is a cycle. so I guess there are certain types of thinking the shrooms push you towards but overall its all projections of your own mind.
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Re: Communication with mushrooms [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#14398181 - 05/04/11 02:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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No way I believe this is 100% legit. I high dosed a lot using ltek method with a friend and spent 3 hours transferring thoughts and knowledge into his mind, and controlling his moods. He was unable to speak or move or do anything properly, felt literally disabled he told me. After his trip he told me he channeled his grandfathers spirit, who suffered from illnesses where he was wheelchair bound. He claims he became his grandfather in that short time. Just as all our ancestors are within us, communicating on shrooms is definitely possible in high doses and a pure mind.
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Re: Communication with mushrooms [Re: Natarat]
#14398212 - 05/04/11 03:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Retarded thread is full of bullshit. There are no mushroom spirits, your grandpa is decaying in the ground, and the entities you talk to when you're tripping are just parts of your imagination.
Stop with all of the stupid superstition and learn to respect the true power of the drug, and it's just that, a drug. Nothing more, nothing less. It fucks you up and makes you think weird things. It does not give you magic powers. It's all in your superstitious little heads.
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Re: Communication with mushrooms [Re: healing]
#14398261 - 05/04/11 03:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
healing said: the entities you talk to when you're tripping are just parts of your imagination.
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infectedstyle
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Re: Communication with mushrooms [Re: healing]
#14398555 - 05/04/11 06:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah dude u just go ahead and live ur empty life.. Keep up that attitude and it will all come back to you when u die.
First you say respect the true power then u say its just a drug that fucks you up.
So when people smoke DMT and have all kind of magical shit happen to them and after the trip they philosophize about what it is that actually happened ur just gonna say stop being such a crazy motherfucker and realize u where just tripping balls. What happened to u was all in ur head and its pointless to think about what actually happened and figure out the truth behind it all?
Sure it might just be my own imagination, it might be the oversoul communicting with me it might have been plant spirits. You don't see me ridiculing your closed ego-tripping mind do you? Well i do now but you provoked it this time.
Anyway as an oneironaut and talking with very experienced lucid dreamers we probably have a very different view on what imagination is. But i'm 99% sure you never asked urself what imagination is and what function it serves to humans. Therefore u do not have the right to say it's just imagination if you don't even know what it is ur talking about.
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Zelse
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I like to think that the "communication" you experience and the wisdom/insights you gain are one of two things.
First, and most likely IMHO, they come from within you. Your mind is allowed to think outside of normal constraints placed on it through the elimination of bias, ego, and trivial concepts, and it allows you to essentially communicate with yourself, or even manifest different aspects of yourself as hallucinations in your mind. We will never know for sure, as the human mind is very complex, and when inducing "psychosis" (a better term escapes me), there is really no true way to measure it.
On another hand, it could also be the changing of your very consciousness, to be in tune with a larger collective consciousness/mind of nature/infinity/what have you, that everything stems from and is a part of, and the communication with this allows for partial understanding of an enormous amount of past experience(assuming that time is a factor for such a phenomenon).
We can never really know for sure until we die if anything we believe is true. Even then we may not find answers.
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Re: Communication with mushrooms [Re: Zelse]
#14400643 - 05/04/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I once had the Voice say to me "smooth" in my native language (uncommon word, very easy to make out when spelled) while tripping with a friend in dark silence. I stopped to think about it for about three seconds, after which my friend started talking. I wasn't listening at all until he said the last word of his sentence; "smooth".
Whatever the Voice is (or wherever it's coming from), it knows stuff "you" can't know. That suggests an autonomous entity, unless if you're willing to think that secretly you know the future. Which is possible as well.
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Libertin
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Re: Communication with mushrooms [Re: Zelse]
#14400678 - 05/04/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Zelse said: I like to think that the "communication" you experience and the wisdom/insights you gain are one of two things.
First, and most likely IMHO, they come from within you. Your mind is allowed to think outside of normal constraints placed on it through the elimination of bias, ego, and trivial concepts, and it allows you to essentially communicate with yourself, or even manifest different aspects of yourself as hallucinations in your mind. We will never know for sure, as the human mind is very complex, and when inducing "psychosis" (a better term escapes me), there is really no true way to measure it.
On another hand, it could also be the changing of your very consciousness, to be in tune with a larger collective consciousness/mind of nature/infinity/what have you, that everything stems from and is a part of, and the communication with this allows for partial understanding of an enormous amount of past experience(assuming that time is a factor for such a phenomenon).
We can never really know for sure until we die if anything we believe is true. Even then we may not find answers.
Well explained Zelse. I am inclined to agree that these are the two fairest explanations - and I think that they are equally compelling. The rational/logical/thinking/left brain vs the intuitive/spiritual/feeling/right brain. Sober analysis of the experience leads one into the first explanation, whereas the experience itself FEELS so truly supernatural and that feeling has equal influence. Both drives are equally powerful, contradictory and valid. It is an unresolvable paradox.
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Re: Communication with mushrooms [Re: Libertin]
#14406154 - 05/05/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I feel the same way.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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