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"Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation...
    #14389423 - 05/02/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Personally, I have never read anything, seen anything, or heard anything about this...

I have a couple other posts about the bricks I have made...

But now that I am in the 'fruiting' stage, I have made a very strange discovery...

My cakes are bleed. Found them this morning, 'orange' looking drops of water coming straight through the colonized mycelium...





ANY INSIGHT ANYONE??

I figured... possible contam?

I have experience 'orange' in jars before... but it was due to when I drilled the holes in the metal, and some of the shards got left in the jar, and caused rust.

But I used bags for this TEK... and didn't use any metal...

The ONLY thing I can think of is that I am using 'well'-like water for misting...

Other than that, the cakes have been colonizing pretty fast... only took it like 2 days to colonized the 'roll' of vermiculite after dunking...

plus its STILL colonizing, because this morning I realized white starting to take over the thick layer of vermiculite I have on top.

Been in the fruiting chamber for I want to say 2 weeks now... Looks like they are bruising... but knots have been coming up, same with dark looking knots... and then dark blue by the corners of the bricks...

Not sure if its due to lack of misting... but I have been misting multiple times per day, and giving it PLENTY of FAE.

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Open for discussion... really interested in what in the HELL is going on with these bricks... Cuz they do NOT seem contamed at all.


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
    #14389446 - 05/02/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

metabolites:2cents:


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #14389498 - 05/02/11 04:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Like for the bleeding? Thats what I was thinking too.. especially for the knots and such... but I have never seen it in liquid form!

Thank you tho for your opinion :smile: Much appreciated


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
    #14389512 - 05/02/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Like for the bleeding? Thats what I was thinking too.. especially for the knots and such... but I have never seen it in liquid form!

Thank you tho for your opinion :smile: Much appreciated





im almost 100% its matabolites:wink:


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #14389533 - 05/02/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Like for the bleeding? Thats what I was thinking too.. especially for the knots and such... but I have never seen it in liquid form!

Thank you tho for your opinion :smile: Much appreciated





im almost 100% its matabolites;)




Yaa, not the most informed ABOUT metabolites in general... but after some looking around I believe you are correct... Altho, I did read that IF your cake is producing them like THAT... whereas enough to where its actually CRYING... that it could be due for a contam risk...

I read that its because of "over colonization" or "too high of temps"


From what I know about the bricks I have going... they have been colonizing fast... I'm not TOO sure how it could OVER colonize.. and I'm STILL waiting to see some pins... But do you think I am in any risk right now? I know that since the cakes are big, the internal temp is a LOT higher... so maybe it is the "high temps" causing it...


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
    #14389578 - 05/02/11 04:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

probly high temps cause it looks super healthy but im not to exp with um either i just know what they look like


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #14389716 - 05/02/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well thats reliving... at least you say they "look healthy" ... which isn't 100% credible, but its better than hearing that they look UN-healthy haha...

I'm waiting for the one kid to come in and say "omg, I had that a while ago. After the drops appeared, it fruited amazingly" haha

...if only... O:)


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
    #14389931 - 05/02/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Well thats reliving... at least you say they "look healthy" ... which isn't 100% credible, but its better than hearing that they look UN-healthy haha...

I'm waiting for the one kid to come in and say "omg, I had that a while ago. After the drops appeared, it fruited amazingly" haha

...if only... O:)




You can still get fruits off of that sub. Metabolites are an indicator for some improper condition or contam, but unless you see a contaminated spot or whatever, your sub should fruit just fine.


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: healing]
    #14389945 - 05/02/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've had it on cakes I think it's due to excess nutrients. This cake had 1/4 cup of dry-milk

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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14390022 - 05/02/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Negative. Not signs of excess nutrients, but a sign that it is stressed. Either something in the conditions is stressing it or possible stress from fighting contams.

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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14390114 - 05/02/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I've had it on cakes I think it's due to excess nutrients. This cake had 1/4 cup of dry-milk




interesting... thanks for the photo, and response :smile:

When you saw that with your cake(s) how long till they fruited? if you remember...

and how was the harvest?


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: SomeGuy]
    #14390896 - 05/02/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I've had it on cakes I think it's due to excess nutrients. This cake had 1/4 cup of dry-milk




thats fucking sick.
and disgusting.
But soooooooo good looking at the same time :heart:

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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: dizzyease]
    #14391174 - 05/02/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like a whole lot of trich to me, and the healthy mycelium under it is trying like hell to fight it. 2 days for the myc to colonize the verm and puff out like that is suspect.

I guess we will know in a few days if it's ok or not.


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
    #14391294 - 05/02/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Some metabolites are normal from all substrates.  If they're excessive, they can indicate problems.
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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14391377 - 05/02/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

In my opinion that cake, or whatever it is, is screaming for FAE, just my 2 cents....


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14391539 - 05/02/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It done just fine. It was a pint cake and I'd say I got 15 grams or better from 3 flushes. As you can see in the pic, I cut into it, and the thing blued. There were no noticable bacteria, as far as I could tell. I do agree with rr that excessive metabolites generally means problems. This was an exceptional case, and it looked exceptional

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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: ThisIsPathetic]
    #14392860 - 05/03/11 04:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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That upper right corner is trich. YOu can still fruit it, but it might contaminate your growth area. I would get rid of it immediately.


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: healing]
    #14392915 - 05/03/11 04:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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That upper right corner is trich. YOu can still fruit it, but it might contaminate your growth area. I would get rid of it immediately.



that is not trich its bruising :huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #14393170 - 05/03/11 07:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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that is not trich its bruising :huxleyfacepalm:



QFT.  I see no trich.

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Re: "Bleeding Cakes" - Interesting observation... [Re: Sillicybin]
    #14393218 - 05/03/11 07:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, i bet thats where he touches it when handling. My shit always bruises where I touch it.

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