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Meditation relaxes me more than weed?
    #14389369 - 05/02/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've tried meditating before, but it wasn't since last week that I really got into it. Man. Them Buddhists weren't ripping me off. You guys should try it, it's seriously relaxing. I only sat there for like half an hour, too.

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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: GEncore]
    #14389420 - 05/02/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

it also increases gray matter in certain areas in the brain resulting in

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people who consistently meditate have a singular ability to cultivate positive emotions, retain emotional stability and engage in mindful behavior," said Eileen Luders, lead author and a postdoctoral research fellow at the UCLA



http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090512134655.htm

meditation is :awesome:


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: bigmike7104]
    #14389433 - 05/02/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Meditation is 1,000x more relaxing than weed.


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: Rocker232]
    #14389744 - 05/02/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if weed = :awesome: and meditation = :awesome:

than weed + meditation =

:aweoverdose:

it's science!


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: KrishnaDreamer]
    #14389759 - 05/02/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:yesnod:


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: bigmike7104]
    #14389821 - 05/02/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Share the 101 basic tips on meditation. I dont wanna read a 100 page manual on how to do it but rather learn it via trial and error

Where does one start :aum:


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: mellowparty]
    #14389830 - 05/02/11 04:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sit still and don't think about stuff.


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14389843 - 05/02/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

can I think about my breathing? Is there any optimal position for my body?


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: mellowparty]
    #14389844 - 05/02/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I just focus on my chosen "mind object", which can be anything; it's purpose is to have something to return to when your thoughts start to wander.
Lots of people say to focus on your breath.  You can do that, or repeat a mantra, or visualize some object.  It's up to you.
The point is that whenever you notice yourself following a train of thought, you gently hop off the train and watch it roll into the distance.  :wink:


I guess that's only one form of meditation.  I'm not sure if this is what people refer to as mindfulness meditation or what.

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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #14389895 - 05/02/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

weed makes me more crazy. i like meditating on music or letting my mind go

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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: mellowparty]
    #14389934 - 05/02/11 05:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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can I think about my breathing? Is there any optimal position for my body?




don't think about your breathing, but focus on your breathing. whether it's on the feeling of your stomach rising up and down, or the flow of your breathing going in and out of your nostril. when thoughts come up, don't react to them and just let them go away on it's own, and keep your attention on your breathing. same for when you get lost into your thoughts.

as for position, you can do half lotus, full lotus, or sit in a chair with your back straight.

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repeat a mantra, or visualize some object




you can use those for meditation too, but i find it easiest to focus on the breath though cause the breath happens naturally on it's own.


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: skatealex2]
    #14389940 - 05/02/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I choose to focus on a single thing because I find concentrating on nothing impossible. I sometimes close my eyes and listen to my breathing, other times I focus on a candle on a dark room.

When you start out you'll definitely still have random thoughts pour in, I'm a little over a week in (not a lot, of course) and I my mind never shuts off completely. The idea is to let the thoughts pass by and keep focusing on the candle/breathing/whatever. Try not to stay in those thoughts and analyze them, which leads to other thoughts, etc. Imagine this: you're staring at a single point in the sky. Clouds are gonna pass by, but eventually, they're gonna pass and you won't see them anymore. You should try to handle your thoughts like those clouds.

At least that's the way I think works best for beginners.

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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: GEncore]
    #14389944 - 05/02/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, weed gives me anxiety. I have to meditate to relax from weed induced anxiety.

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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: GEncore]
    #14389954 - 05/02/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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At least that's the way I think works best for beginners.




yea that's the way it works best for everyone cause the idea of meditation is to practice staying in the present moment without letting your thoughts take you out of it and have such an effect on you.


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: mellowparty]
    #14389965 - 05/02/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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can I think about my breathing? Is there any optimal position for my body?




Sure. Usually, thinking about breathing will be dualistic though.

in/out/in/out

You want to try to focus on just one thing.

om/om/om/om

The eventual goal is to think of nothing.

If you find your mind wandering, don't stress or get frustrated.
Just let the thought go, and keep focusing on your breathing (or whatever your focus is).

EDIT: as for position, just be comfortable but not a position you can easily fall asleep in.
indian style is fine as long as your legs won't fall asleep- but your legs falling asleep will distract you.


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14389970 - 05/02/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Weed triggers massive panic attacks for me whether it's great or shit weed. I'll take meditation anyday. I like to start by focusing on my heart rate effectively lowering that, then establish a rhythm to my breathing, and finally tune everything out for as long as i can. Icannot however meditate on weed. Only thing that'll calm me down if i try to smoke is xanax in a rather large dose.


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: BRoberts84]
    #14390001 - 05/02/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

when you start to get a panic attack, meditate on the anxiety. it's likely the fear of getting fear is what is keeping you from relaxing.


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: bigmike7104]
    #14390287 - 05/02/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i like to take one hit and then meditate

usually too much weed gets me anxious but one hit relaxes my muscles and uplifts my mood a little bit

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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14390327 - 05/02/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
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mellowparty said:
can I think about my breathing? Is there any optimal position for my body?




Sure. Usually, thinking about breathing will be dualistic though.

in/out/in/out

You want to try to focus on just one thing.

om/om/om/om

The eventual goal is to think of nothing.

If you find your mind wandering, don't stress or get frustrated.
Just let the thought go, and keep focusing on your breathing (or whatever your focus is).

EDIT: as for position, just be comfortable but not a position you can easily fall asleep in.
indian style is fine as long as your legs won't fall asleep- but your legs falling asleep will distract you.




That's helpful :thumbup:


Every time you catch yourself thinking/mind wandering then correct it. Sometimes I would catch it wandering allot and would get frustrated, you kinda just have to let go and relax. Deep slow breathing helps relaxation allot. If you can't go for long at first then try for 10-15 minutes until you get better and work your way up gradually. You'll get faster and faster at putting your mind into that state and it will become easier.

Also it's easier to start meditating in the beginning of the day rather than the end when your mind is busy with thoughts from the day.


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Re: Meditation relaxes me more than weed? [Re: A Day InThe Life]
    #14390575 - 05/02/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Meditation will get you higher than any drug can, for realz.

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