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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins] * 2
    #14389463 - 05/02/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Go away.  Even bringing up science tells me that you don't know what it is.


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14389559 - 05/02/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

PS; I'm just wondering, do you guys watch the WWF (world wrestling federation) and think it's real? you know who you are.

You guys seems like you would.  You know why.


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
    #14389600 - 05/02/11 04:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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PS; I'm just wondering, do you guys watch the WWF (world wrestling federation) and think it's real? you know who you are.

You guys seems like you would.  You know why.



It is real entertainment like the movies or your posts.  And like those two things lacks much intellectual stimulation although I do have a lawyer cousin who used to be quite a fan.  Not of you but of wrestling precisely because it was so transparent.


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14389625 - 05/02/11 04:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Go away.  Even bringing up science tells me that you don't know what it is.




Science (in my own words) is a body of and method of attaining knowledge though repeatable, testable, observations of the evidence.


Now, Zappa, tell me how you have come to your conclusion scientifically you filthy lying intellectually dishonest bigot!

YOU DIDN'T

When did you see the body? you didnt.

When did you or anyone analyze the so called DNA evidence? they didn't.

Where is the body? gone.



There is absolutely no hard evidence you can provide us.  You base your opinion merely on hearsay and bigotry.

"obama said it" is an argument from authority which is fallacy even in rhetoric nevermind science.

You're one sick puppy Zappa,  Do you ever feel guilty about your dishonesty, or does it suit your agaenda and make you happy?


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
    #14389639 - 05/02/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Regardless of what anyone here believes about what happened to Osama I think we can all agree that the usa government should release pictures of Osama.

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Re: Bin Laden [Re: mister]
    #14389725 - 05/02/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dead. Just released in the news

Looks like the US just did its own Spring Offensive, bitch! :razz:


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
    #14389730 - 05/02/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Go away.  Even bringing up science tells me that you don't know what it is.




Science (in my own words) is a body of and method of attaining knowledge though repeatable, testable, observations of the evidence.


Now, Zappa, tell me how you have come to your conclusion scientifically you filthy lying intellectually dishonest bigot!

YOU DIDN'T

When did you see the body? you didnt.

When did you or anyone analyze the so called DNA evidence? they didn't.

Where is the body? gone.



There is absolutely no hard evidence you can provide us.  You base your opinion merely on hearsay and bigotry.

"obama said it" is an argument from authority which is fallacy even in rhetoric nevermind science.

You're one sick puppy Zappa,  Do you ever feel guilty about your dishonesty, or does it suit your agaenda and make you happy?




Showing you a picture isn't scientific evidence and somebody has, apparently, analyzed the DNA evidence and found it to be Osama.  But then again, I didn't see them collect it or what they are comparing it to or anything else, all necessary standards for your burden of proof.  So let us just call like it is.  You don't believe anything at all.  All you do is shout "LIE". 

And now you lapse into some ignorant use of the logic term  "argument from authority", which also has no application here.  This isn't a logic exercise.  He is either dead or he isn't.  The President and several other people who should know have announced that he is.  I have no reason to believe that they would lie or that they would think they could get away with lying about it.  If they were lying all bin Laden would have to do would be get on tape with a later newspaper and expose the US President as a liar and a buffoon, which I'm sure, were he still extant, he would love to do. 

You are making yourself look like an idiot.


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: lines]
    #14389732 - 05/02/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The DOD's got no choice now but to roll out the red carpet for Panetta after this triumph!  BTW, someone up stream expressed outrage that Pakistan would host bin Laden.  Ain't it obvious that if OBL had refuge there that the US countenanced it in deference to the Saudi Royals, and for numerous other political reasons--OBL will go down in history as the most useful tool of the American Empire.


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: lines]
    #14389755 - 05/02/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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lines said:
Regardless of what anyone here believes about what happened to Osama I think we can all agree that the usa government should release pictures of Osama.




They should also release footage of the pentagon getting hit by a "plane"

don;t count on it.


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
    #14389803 - 05/02/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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lines said:
Regardless of what anyone here believes about what happened to Osama I think we can all agree that the usa government should release pictures of Osama.




They should also release footage of the pentagon getting hit by a "plane"

don;t count on it.



:morefoil:


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14389804 - 05/02/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I think its funny how this story comes out at people just sit there and take it in.."oh thank you FOX news! ultimate bringer of knowledge and wisdom"

the fucker couldve been dead awhile ago or still alive right now. just cause you here something on the fucking tv doesnt mean its true.



:facepalm:Fox News?  What the fuck are you babbling about?  The President himself announced it.




you know what the fuck I mean! i know the fucking president announced it im not a fucking retard. i was just saying how dumb it is that people will sit on there couches and watch the news and take it all in as 100 percent truth.

not once have I ever seen you respond to a post with facts. instead you say shit like "what the fuck are you babbling about" every fucking time.

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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14389813 - 05/02/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

think gas prices will go down now ?? :confused:


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14389817 - 05/02/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Led Zeppelin said:
I think its funny how this story comes out at people just sit there and take it in.."oh thank you FOX news! ultimate bringer of knowledge and wisdom"

the fucker couldve been dead awhile ago or still alive right now. just cause you here something on the fucking tv doesnt mean its true.



:facepalm:Fox News?  What the fuck are you babbling about?  The President himself announced it.




you know what the fuck I mean! i know the fucking president announced it im not a fucking retard. i was just saying how dumb it is that people will sit on there couches and watch the news and take it all in as 100 percent truth.

not once have I ever seen you respond to a post with facts. instead you say shit like "what the fuck are you babbling about" every fucking time.



What the fuck are you babbling about?  I just responded with a fact.  FoxNews has nothing to do with it.  Or any other media organ, for that matter.  If you want to make an argument that the President is lying FUCKING MAKE IT!  Or shut up.  If you are going to argue that he is lying, an incredibly unlikely event, take it to Conspiracy.


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
    #14389820 - 05/02/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How is it not obvious to some that the state actively and passively encourages conspiracy theories to distract people and discredit it's opponents. The state prefers that it's subjects be obsessed with trutherism, birtherism, osama, etc rather than it's actual foreign, domestic, monetary, and fiscal policies.


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins] * 1
    #14389846 - 05/02/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Zappa said: somebody has, apparently, analyzed the DNA evidence and found it to be Osama.




Who? where is the study? can you provide it? Can you repeat it? it's hard to repeat after the body was dumped.
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Zappa said: So let us just call like it is.  You don't believe anything at all.  All you do is shout "LIE"]So let us just call like it is.  You don't believe anything at all.  All you do is shout "LIE"




Generalization and exaggeration. Any good scientist is also a heavy skeptic.  the way science works is that nothing is true unless it can be proven with repeated testing of the evidence.

Otherwise, you are fantasizing.

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Zappa said: And now you lapse into some ignorant use of the logic term  "argument from authority"




mmhm?

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Zappa said: :facepalm:Fox News?  What the fuck are you babbling about?  The President himself announced it.




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rgument from authority (also known as appeal to authority) is a fallacy of defective induction, where it is argued that a statement is correct because the statement is made by a person or source that is commonly regarded as authoritative. The most general structure of this argument is:

  1. Source A says that p is true.
  2. Source A is authoritative.
  3. Therefore, p is true.

This is a fallacy because the truth or falsity of a claim is not related to the authority of the claimant, and because the premises can be true,




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zappa said: This isn't a logic exercise.




Maybe in your world over there.  In my world, every day is a logic exorcise, try using your brain on a more regular basis and you might too.

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Zappa said: I have no reason to believe that they would lie or that they would think they could get away with lying about it.




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Shins said: try using your brain on a more regular basis




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Zappa said: If they were lying all bin Laden would have to do would be get on tape with a later newspaper and expose the US President as a liar and a buffoon, which I'm sure, were he still extant, he would love to do. 




Unless;

1. he's already been dead for years.
2. He's on the CIA pay role.


Zappa, I don't always believe the opposite or nothing at all i hear from the media or anywhere else, i just don't believe it at face value.

If something said strikes me, I'll sit down and read about it, often for hours and hours because i seek the truth of a matter not a lazy, convenient scape goat.

I take everything i hear (especially from the popular media and government) with a rock of salt, like i say, any scientist, and true seeker of the truth of the matter will begin his or her investigation with a heavy air of skepticism.


When i see people like you zappa or others jumping right to conclusions without first a proper scientific investigation, deep down it truly makes me sad for humanity and of our apparent inability to overcome our strong irrational behaviors, and more forward as an intellectually non-fictional non-superstitious species.


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: wortiesbo] * 1
    #14389864 - 05/02/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i like how all these people from these european countries insult the USA, when theyre governments have been collaborating with us all along, especially the UK.

the shroomery forum keeps slipping and slipping into nothing more than a place for tinfoil hat teenagers to spread garbage

just because it comes on mainstream news does not mean it is some kind of giant coverup.

like ace said i believe, u cant argue with a conspiracy theorist because they always have "facts" to pull out of thin air.




Truer words have never been spoken.  Anonymity, drugs and the internet create some very interesting characters.

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Re: Bin Laden [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14389886 - 05/02/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Shins said:
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lines said:
Regardless of what anyone here believes about what happened to Osama I think we can all agree that the usa government should release pictures of Osama.




They should also release footage of the pentagon getting hit by a "plane"

don;t count on it.



:morefoil:




Tin foil? Is that going to help release the vid's and pics?

no.

Get over it.


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
    #14389889 - 05/02/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

d33p,

Well, yeah.


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Re: Bin Laden [Re: d33p]
    #14389917 - 05/02/11 05:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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How is it not obvious to some that the state actively and passively encourages conspiracy theories to distract people and discredit it's opponents. The state prefers that it's subjects be obsessed with trutherism, birtherism, osama, etc rather than it's actual foreign, domestic, monetary, and fiscal policies.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

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Cognitive dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding conflicting ideas simultaneously. The theory of cognitive dissonance proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance. They do this by changing their attitudes, beliefs, and actions.[2] Dissonance is also reduced by justifying, blaming, and denying. It is one of the most influential and extensively studied theories in social psychology.




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Re: Bin Laden [Re: despisedicon]
    #14389921 - 05/02/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i like how all these people from these european countries insult the USA, when theyre governments have been collaborating with us all along, especially the UK.

the shroomery forum keeps slipping and slipping into nothing more than a place for tinfoil hat teenagers to spread garbage

just because it comes on mainstream news does not mean it is some kind of giant coverup.

like ace said i believe, u cant argue with a conspiracy theorist because they always have "facts" to pull out of thin air.




Truer words have never been spoken.  Anonymity, drugs and the internet create some very interesting characters.




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