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How old is too old for college?
    #14388566 - 05/02/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So a little background.
I'm 23 and I already feel so god damn old. After highschool I wasted 3 years on a maritime college, then another 2 on IT tech college. I finished neither. I've been suffering from depression through most of my life, sometimes suicidal, sometimes it would almost go away. Education environment seems to be a major source of depression and anxiety for me.
For the last ~year and a half I've been really terrible, alienated all my friends, spent most of my days watching TV and praying for death. Nothing made sense anymore, the concept of society and life in general seemed so utterly terrible I really didn't want to be a part of it anymore. Now I came to terms with it for the most part, recognize it as a symptom of major depression, and have found the things I have to change to feel better.
I really have nothing to live for at the moment, I still live with my parents until I finish college, I have no friends anymore, I suffer from really bad social anxiety, I haven't gotten laid in almost 3 years and I'm fat. So yeah, I know the problems and am trying really hard to fix all that. But every time I get really full of enthusiasm, really ready to think positive and deal with all that crap, something usually college related happens and I'm back on the floor crying and punching myself wishing for all this to end.
I hate it. I really do. I hate studying that and I would hate working those jobs. But it's kinda my only option. And it's pretty easy to find a job in that segment nowadays. But to be honest, I'd much rather work in a warehouse than be an IT tech.
What I would like to study is something biology related, agriculture especially. But there is nothing like that near me, I'd have to leave home and go to another city, get a flat, roommates, part time job, and be the oldest prick there. And here my fear and anxiety kick in. I know my parents would say that I'm only running away from my problems, that I have to finish this IT shit, there would be a lot of yelling (my dad), crying (my mom) and self harming and depression (me). It's hard to let your only son go, which wouldn't be that bad if I was sure I could pull it off.
I've come a long way in these few years, I do feel like I have the strength to break free from depression, but not with the prospect of spending my years working in some shitty office fixing some CEOs computer.
Anyway, I wouldn't be able to go for another year, which I could spend to find a job and save some money to get me started. But that is my main concern, finding money for rent and all the other stuff, it's difficult for students to get a good job (which could sustain them) where I'm at.
So yeah, actually my question was supposed to be is 24 too old to start a new college?
It feels really good to get all this off my chest, thank you for reading, Shroomery!
Any and all advice and suggestions are welcome!


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14388570 - 05/02/11 01:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

when I move soon I plan on hitting some classes up. I am 32 going on 33.


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14388671 - 05/02/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm 23 and just finished up my second semester back in school. (I'm either going to major in Chem. or Biology, haven't decided yet.)  I got an associates degree in audio engineering when I was 19 and shortly after realized that I didn't want to be an audio engineer for the rest of my life.  So my advice is, if you wanna go back to school, do it.  As far as the depression thing goes, move out of your parents house, start doing other things than watching tv all the time, and go out and meet people.  Hell, finish up your IT degree, get a good job and go to school on the side that'll pay enough to rent a place on your own.  I know, easier said then done, but if I can do it, it's not impossible.


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Anonymous #2] * 1
    #14388685 - 05/02/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

my personal opinion.. Get out of school. chase&live your dreams. you say your more interested in agriculture than computers? then what the fuck are you doing staring at a computer?
maybe a change of scene is what you need, get away from your parents, meet new people, study something new. Suffering from social anxiety will make that hard, but just make a point of being yourself and saying & doing exactly what you want to do. Are you going to see any of these people that you might possibly act weird around again? if yes, and they dont like the way you are, then there is no point of trying to accommodate them.
pick up an instrument, everytime you feel like watching tv or doing something that doesnt feel like  a good use of time, use that time to do something useful. like... learning a instrument... work out everyday..
maybe write down how your feeling & why your feeling that way. turn your feelings into a piece of art. draw how your feeling...
i was in a bit of a slump a while ago & i started doing these things... full on changed me as a person. one day i decided i was sick of being something that i didnt wanna be. persevere and become something that you appreciate. Make everything in your life beautiful. art is a cure to many diseases.

ps i would advise moving to british columbia in canada. such beautiful people and culture here. Saltspring island, or nelson are from my point of view absoultely amazing. just be an open minded person and love everything around you.


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #14388808 - 05/02/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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  At both Harvard and Notre Dame the average age is now 27.  The University of Phoenix, which offers both online and traditional degree programs, has an average student age of 35-37.  On a larger scale thirty-eight percent of all college students are now 25 or older, according to a recent U.S Census Bureau report. 




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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #14388813 - 05/02/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm 25, and still have another year left.


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #14388938 - 05/02/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm 23 and finishing my liberal arts degree after the summer.


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #14388972 - 05/02/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Im 25 and going back in the fall. Another friend of mine just started today for the summer semester, getting her 2nd degree. A few other friends are just starting, or no more than 2 years in. I see people of all ages all around the campus. Nobody cares how old you are.


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #14390188 - 05/02/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

dead is too old for college.

im 29 with my BA, and plan to hopefully be in a PhD program at 31-32 years old, meaning ill be done with school in my late 30's.

life goes on quite a ways after your 30s even, I dont want to work a shit job until im 80 cause I was too lazy to do it in my younger years. and every moment of my 20s, even those in school, have been so completely fulfilling that im looking totally forward to getting back into it. school is fucking awesome


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14390210 - 05/02/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Anonymous said:
So a little background.
I'm 23 and I already feel so god damn old. After highschool I wasted 3 years on a maritime college, then another 2 on IT tech college. I finished neither. I've been suffering from depression through most of my life, sometimes suicidal, sometimes it would almost go away. Education environment seems to be a major source of depression and anxiety for me.
For the last ~year and a half I've been really terrible, alienated all my friends, spent most of my days watching TV and praying for death. Nothing made sense anymore, the concept of society and life in general seemed so utterly terrible I really didn't want to be a part of it anymore. Now I came to terms with it for the most part, recognize it as a symptom of major depression, and have found the things I have to change to feel better.
I really have nothing to live for at the moment, I still live with my parents until I finish college, I have no friends anymore, I suffer from really bad social anxiety, I haven't gotten laid in almost 3 years and I'm fat. So yeah, I know the problems and am trying really hard to fix all that. But every time I get really full of enthusiasm, really ready to think positive and deal with all that crap, something usually college related happens and I'm back on the floor crying and punching myself wishing for all this to end.
I hate it. I really do. I hate studying that and I would hate working those jobs. But it's kinda my only option. And it's pretty easy to find a job in that segment nowadays. But to be honest, I'd much rather work in a warehouse than be an IT tech.
What I would like to study is something biology related, agriculture especially. But there is nothing like that near me, I'd have to leave home and go to another city, get a flat, roommates, part time job, and be the oldest prick there. And here my fear and anxiety kick in. I know my parents would say that I'm only running away from my problems, that I have to finish this IT shit, there would be a lot of yelling (my dad), crying (my mom) and self harming and depression (me). It's hard to let your only son go, which wouldn't be that bad if I was sure I could pull it off.
I've come a long way in these few years, I do feel like I have the strength to break free from depression, but not with the prospect of spending my years working in some shitty office fixing some CEOs computer.
Anyway, I wouldn't be able to go for another year, which I could spend to find a job and save some money to get me started. But that is my main concern, finding money for rent and all the other stuff, it's difficult for students to get a good job (which could sustain them) where I'm at.
So yeah, actually my question was supposed to be is 24 too old to start a new college?
It feels really good to get all this off my chest, thank you for reading, Shroomery!
Any and all advice and suggestions are welcome!





I read so much of this these days. You're still young, and I had a lot of confusion around that time in my life also. Something I've learned that actually works a lot though, is that hating everything in life, for whatever reason, only reinforces the behavior to hate everything.

If youre miserable all the time, youre only going to reinforce that behavior of being miserable. What you have to do is love it. Love every moment of it, even when you dont, just lie to yourself and say you love it anyways. Then you reinforce that behavior of love and passion for things, and before you know it, everything turns to love, and youre just happy all the time and happy with life.

I dont need to say this, but for the sake of making a point i will: you are 24 you young ass son of a bitch, you are learning in school, you lucky mother fucker. and you have the rest of your life ahead of you to live in a wealthy country. Start enjoying what you got dude, and love yourself regardless of any imperfections in your life, they are MEANINGLESS


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: ManianFH]
    #14390584 - 05/02/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well put. I love school. I love everything about it. I love the challenge. I love the social aspect. I love that every day I go, Im out and about...talking, learning, meeting new people, working..gettin shit done. Im one day closer to a goal.


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #14391008 - 05/02/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

there was a 100 year old woman who graduated from college
23 is not that old


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: bigmike7104]
    #14391083 - 05/02/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

23 is still totally fine.  I think most jobs are going to accept an older workforce as long as their mentally and physically capable.  The only field of study that I can think of that would be made vastly more difficult with age would be medicine (as it requires so much god damn schooling).
As a recent college graduate, I'd say my life has been enriched by my college education, but I think people are pinning WWWAAAYYYYY too much importance on a formal 4 year system.  I welded long before I did school, and I could do it all over again I would have continued along that path instead (be sitting on a tidy sum of cash, compared to being waist deep in college loans).  Whatever happened to trades?  Oh yeah, they're looked down upon (fuck the world).
But yeah, 23, your still plenty young.


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Treefeeler]
    #14391733 - 05/02/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Treefeeler said:
23 is still totally fine.  I think most jobs are going to accept an older workforce as long as their mentally and physically capable.  The only field of study that I can think of that would be made vastly more difficult with age would be medicine (as it requires so much god damn schooling).
As a recent college graduate, I'd say my life has been enriched by my college education, but I think people are pinning WWWAAAYYYYY too much importance on a formal 4 year system.  I welded long before I did school, and I could do it all over again I would have continued along that path instead (be sitting on a tidy sum of cash, compared to being waist deep in college loans).  Whatever happened to trades?  Oh yeah, they're looked down upon (fuck the world).
But yeah, 23, your still plenty young.





What do you mean by trades?  Personal skills?


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #14391989 - 05/02/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Carpentry, welding, plumbing, etc.  I found a lot of condescending attitudes from the academic community when referring to trades(same here, liberal arts college).  It was that approach to non-science fields (among other things) that made me shy away from graduate chemistry studies.  Sorry, me gots a wweee bit jaded from the experience.
Then again, I'm now getting into my desired field of art (dance), so after going from welding, to chem, to dance, back to welding and slowly full time dance... I'm a bit all over the place.


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Treefeeler]
    #14392641 - 05/03/11 01:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Carpentry, welding, plumbing, etc.  I found a lot of condescending attitudes from the academic community when referring to trades(same here, liberal arts college).  It was that approach to non-science fields (among other things) that made me shy away from graduate chemistry studies.  Sorry, me gots a wweee bit jaded from the experience.
Then again, I'm now getting into my desired field of art (dance), so after going from welding, to chem, to dance, back to welding and slowly full time dance... I'm a bit all over the place.




Very universal. I think the common phrase is "do what you love and never work a day in your life". You may get a bs in chemistry, get a technician job making $15 an hour that only takes 2 years of school, and you have 4. This job goes nowhere, but if youre happy working, what else matters? It gets worse. Ive worked in restaurants my whole life. These guys get a culinary arts degree. They end up owning a restaurant and working 14 hours a day to keep it open.

And it fails. Then what? They thought they would be happy working with food. Not so much....


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14393189 - 05/03/11 07:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:rofl2:

I am 48 an in college. There are a lot of people older than me.
I don't live in the dorm though, that might be weird.


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #14396755 - 05/03/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

My mother went to nursing school at age 53. Im 23 and started college. Its not weird, there are older people.


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #14397346 - 05/03/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

This thread fills me with hope.

btw - I'm 21


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Re: How old is too old for college? [Re: ManianFH]
    #14398699 - 05/04/11 07:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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mick said:
Quote:

Anonymous said:
So a little background.
I'm 23 and I already feel so god damn old. After highschool I wasted 3 years on a maritime college, then another 2 on IT tech college. I finished neither. I've been suffering from depression through most of my life, sometimes suicidal, sometimes it would almost go away. Education environment seems to be a major source of depression and anxiety for me.
For the last ~year and a half I've been really terrible, alienated all my friends, spent most of my days watching TV and praying for death. Nothing made sense anymore, the concept of society and life in general seemed so utterly terrible I really didn't want to be a part of it anymore. Now I came to terms with it for the most part, recognize it as a symptom of major depression, and have found the things I have to change to feel better.
I really have nothing to live for at the moment, I still live with my parents until I finish college, I have no friends anymore, I suffer from really bad social anxiety, I haven't gotten laid in almost 3 years and I'm fat. So yeah, I know the problems and am trying really hard to fix all that. But every time I get really full of enthusiasm, really ready to think positive and deal with all that crap, something usually college related happens and I'm back on the floor crying and punching myself wishing for all this to end.
I hate it. I really do. I hate studying that and I would hate working those jobs. But it's kinda my only option. And it's pretty easy to find a job in that segment nowadays. But to be honest, I'd much rather work in a warehouse than be an IT tech.
What I would like to study is something biology related, agriculture especially. But there is nothing like that near me, I'd have to leave home and go to another city, get a flat, roommates, part time job, and be the oldest prick there. And here my fear and anxiety kick in. I know my parents would say that I'm only running away from my problems, that I have to finish this IT shit, there would be a lot of yelling (my dad), crying (my mom) and self harming and depression (me). It's hard to let your only son go, which wouldn't be that bad if I was sure I could pull it off.
I've come a long way in these few years, I do feel like I have the strength to break free from depression, but not with the prospect of spending my years working in some shitty office fixing some CEOs computer.
Anyway, I wouldn't be able to go for another year, which I could spend to find a job and save some money to get me started. But that is my main concern, finding money for rent and all the other stuff, it's difficult for students to get a good job (which could sustain them) where I'm at.
So yeah, actually my question was supposed to be is 24 too old to start a new college?
It feels really good to get all this off my chest, thank you for reading, Shroomery!
Any and all advice and suggestions are welcome!





I read so much of this these days. You're still young, and I had a lot of confusion around that time in my life also. Something I've learned that actually works a lot though, is that hating everything in life, for whatever reason, only reinforces the behavior to hate everything.

If youre miserable all the time, youre only going to reinforce that behavior of being miserable. What you have to do is love it. Love every moment of it, even when you dont, just lie to yourself and say you love it anyways. Then you reinforce that behavior of love and passion for things, and before you know it, everything turns to love, and youre just happy all the time and happy with life.

I dont need to say this, but for the sake of making a point i will: you are 24 you young ass son of a bitch, you are learning in school, you lucky mother fucker. and you have the rest of your life ahead of you to live in a wealthy country. Start enjoying what you got dude, and love yourself regardless of any imperfections in your life, they are MEANINGLESS




Stop living in illusion.

Change the core problem of the misery, don't try to hide it by believing you are happy when you are not :facepalm:


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