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Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole?
#14387549 - 05/02/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Last time I did the Rue + smoked DMT combo it was powdered, this time around I have whole seeds. I'd like to know if ingesting the seeds whole will still allow it to exert its MAOI effects as I plan to reattempt blast-off to Hyperspace in an hour from this query.
I would appreciate a very quick response, thanks!
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: sunset_mission]
#14387847 - 05/02/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Probably better if you can grind them up a bit. Coffee grinder? Hammer + bandana? BTW, rue has some gross, nauseating stuff in it, best to extract a bit if you have any problems with the sicky ickies.
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: thesoundd]
#14387870 - 05/02/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gah, I just ingested 2g of seeds whole mixed in some lemon juice and slightly grinded up. WHY THE FUCK ARE THESE THINGS TITANIUM HARD!? 
Nah, I never get sick. However I notice whenever I do rue + psilocybin my breathing will be fucked up later in the day after I come down, does anybody ever feel like flu-ish from rue?
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: sunset_mission]
#14387937 - 05/02/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Some people get flu-like symptoms just from mushrooms. Also, the whole seeds work (at least IME) you just need to wait longer. Instead of 30 mins, wait anywhere from an hour to an hour and a half. It allows more time for your stomach to break down the whole seed.
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: bholzer]
#14387964 - 05/02/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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bholzer said: Some people get flu-like symptoms just from mushrooms. Also, the whole seeds work (at least IME) you just need to wait longer. Instead of 30 mins, wait anywhere from an hour to an hour and a half. It allows more time for your stomach to break down the whole seed.
Thanks!!!!! I was about to smoke the right now (30 mins from rue ingestion) but you just saved me. I'll wait a bit longer, appreciate that.
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: sunset_mission]
#14387977 - 05/02/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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No problem, let me know how it goes!
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: bholzer]
#14388364 - 05/02/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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you can make a tea and/or extract the harmalas from rue extremely easily via manske
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
#14389125 - 05/02/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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How was it, I got myself some rue and 7g of dmt so i've been journeying this route also.
its crazy man isn't it. 1 hour dmt trips kick ass when the time is right.
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: erikksonb]
#14389437 - 05/02/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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'Twas slightly disappointing. 3 DMT experiences today but no breakthroughs (except for my 2nd one, my dimension got pretty distorted) but still very peaceful times. I only took like 1.8g of whole rue so it only lengthened it by like.. 15 minutes, not too much.
And holy what the fuck 7g!? I only have like 200mg now
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: sunset_mission]
#14389551 - 05/02/11 04:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey still appreciate the journeys, I haven't been able to have a dmt trip and keep getting locked out from the experience unless i'm on lsd or rue. It sucks
Yeah I did a kilo extraction and yielded around 9 grams so far.
I've done 2.5g of crushed rue seeds and then waited an hour after consumption and have had multiple 1 hour trips with the beginning peak being about 20-25 minutes then some crazy visual trippin for the remainder. good luck
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: erikksonb]
#14389595 - 05/02/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It tastes like shit though ground up rue seeds are death to my taste buds. Does mixing them ground up in juice work well? I can't stand putting a spoonful on my tongue and washing them down. & too lazy to extract it..Think I might brew up some mimosahuasca jello shots soon.
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: erikksonb]
#14389626 - 05/02/11 04:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Definitely. Even my non-breakthrough experiences are special to me and serve a purpose. I constantly stated the purity of my intentions and did indeed meditate and pray to Source as I smoked it. Felt as though my circuits were being rewired yet again, and after my first failed attempt (fucking lighter died on me, and my saliva fucked it up, can you believe that?!) my 3 minute walk to the grocery store was so profound... birds were singing as I passed by, I felt and perceived the divinity in all things, extreme inner peace.
My first successful rue + smoked dmt trip was 3g of rue with 125mg smoked, and it was indeed an hour long. I simultaneously witnessed/became a galaxy-wide throne, comprised of infinite jewels and fractals which expanded miles outward every second, and every inch of it was embedded a new universe. It was clearly communicate that "THIS IS 8TH DENSITY".
It also feels like I'm being "locked out" of Hyperspace, and I need to chill on my voyages, or at least learn to appreciate the non-breakthrough trips which I do.
Do you ever get this feeling of "data download" on DMT?
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: sunset_mission]
#14389690 - 05/02/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh i mean locked out where nothing happens, or one image will be apparent and just stay there or slowly move across my closed eyes and once it's gone my trip has ended. Or open eyed things get funky but then nothing happens. It's annoying ahh I meditated for a good session this morning too and no luck.
Data downloaded, hmm no I don't. well I perceive every journey with appreciation and add it to my dictionary of what dmt experiences are. Not sure what you mean by data download but with rue seeds...holy balls are things different. Some crazy stuff man, psychedelic sensory overload.
Most i've done was 60mg and 3g rue and that was awesome, nice and strong. Havent been past that level as eating 3g of rue is annoying and haven't found the time for another journey.
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: erikksonb]
#14389925 - 05/02/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I also get "locked out" in that regard. It sucks especially if I spend like 15 minutes meditating and there'll be this feeling of suspense... then it passes and nothing but some moving patterns or reality gets weird.
Is this common even on any dose?
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: sunset_mission]
#14390294 - 05/02/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes it is but I also have a better success rate at low doses like 20mg. if I jump up around 50+ it's almost either instant denied or instant launch.
Here's a little more information http://wiki.dmt-nexus.com/FAQ#Denied_breakthrough_.2F_Dark_DMT_trips_.2F_Not_good_experiences_anymore_.3F
-actually the link isn't working for me..search around on dmt-nexus they have information about these "denied breakthroughs/trips"
hasn't really helped me but oh well I guess the only times i'll be smoking that psychedelic power will be on lsd or rue.
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Re: Ingestion of Rue, does it matter if it is powdered or whole? [Re: erikksonb]
#14393251 - 05/03/11 07:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I want to see more imput on this thread, it seems like such an unkown area sometimes. I much indulge today and report back.
Does anyone feel like they go deeper? I've broken through 3 times out of countless journeys. 2 of those times were on rue. the other, my first hefty dose.
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