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TheThirdEye
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Monotub vs SGFC
#14386281 - 05/02/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What is the big difference between monotub and shotgun that let's you be lazy with monotub. Such as fanning and misting not being necessary.
In other words what allows the monotub to be a lazy fc.
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deadmandave
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mono's are used for bulk substrates which evaporate water off their surface and keep the fc humid. SGFC is good for cakes or small trays that aren't self contained like a mono.
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Luger0815
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A SGFC has to be misted 2-4 times a day from the day of cake-birth. A monotub has to be fanned 2-4 times a day and maybe misted once a day, from the beginning of pinning. A monotub is a bit more maintenance free. IMO
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Re: Monotub vs SGFC [Re: Luger0815] 1
#14386371 - 05/02/11 12:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also, the yield per square foot is bigger with monotubs.
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TrustYourSelf
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Quote:
TheThirdEye said: What is the big difference between monotub and shotgun that let's you be lazy with monotub. Such as fanning and misting not being necessary.
In other words what allows the monotub to be a lazy fc.
Monotub you set all the moisture in the sub. Cakes need constant misting on the daily.
I never fan. I just run a giant fan on the side of my mono and poly fill up the holes of my mono.
Don't touch it. Then harvest when they're ready.
Then harvest again.
Then harvest again.
Then its pretty much not worth keeping. You can still mist your mono, but its not needed if you have good moisture in the sub.
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k00laid
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TheThirdEye said: What is the big difference between monotub and shotgun
in a monotub your substrate is the humidity source.
in a SGFC the perlite is your humidity source.
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TheThirdEye
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Re: Monotub vs SGFC [Re: k00laid]
#14389955 - 05/02/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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How come some people harvest monotubs without any fanning or misting from birth to harvest?
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some people just got thier tek down like that. it takes practice, and some experience.
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k00laid
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TheThirdEye said: How come some people harvest monotubs without any fanning or misting from birth to harvest?
because they have been growing for years.
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sporesmores420
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TheThirdEye said: How come some people harvest monotubs without any fanning or misting from birth to harvest?
Because you use bigger holes to get the fae and your substrate will hold a lot of water so leave the lid on and you will have high humidity as well.
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TheThirdEye
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Has anyone have success with monotubs without any fanning or misting?
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Quote:
TheThirdEye said: Has anyone have success with monotubs without any fanning or misting?
Yes, a lot of us do. Newbs who are trying to go straight for the big score, not so much.
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Re: Monotub vs SGFC [Re: emf]
#14392300 - 05/02/11 11:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am on my 4th mono.....All with nice harvests, but I still haven't got the god damn thing down pat yet....My first one was awesome, then the next 3 I struggled with....I made the first one a little on the dry side as opposed to the next 3.....So maybe that was the problem.....All and all a success though
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Primal Call
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Go with a monotub. You will likely make mistakes learning the methods with either FC IMO, and once you get the hang of cakes, you'll probably move on to bulk anyway. I view cakes as for those who can't buy/find the resources necessary for bulk projects.
I started with a hybrid setup and then went to the monotub. It may be my noob-ness or my environmental situation, but the monotubs are much easier than the hybrid for me. It only took 2-3 very poor projects, and it was enough experience and learning to make vast improvements.
3-4" sub with proper moisture, polyfill, constant fan on low, mist once every 1-2 days, additional manual fanning when I remember = easy.
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thanks for the great tips guys, most insightful
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Re: Monotub vs SGFC [Re: psyeye]
#14392495 - 05/03/11 12:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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But don't underestimate the power of BRF cakes....They don't just produce a couple mushrooms....They are certainly capable of producing a shitload....
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anonjon
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making many cakes is more tedious than making a single monotub.
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Re: Monotub vs SGFC [Re: anonjon] 1
#14393104 - 05/03/11 06:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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once you go to bulk grain spawn cakes seem like a joke and a waste of time.
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Re: Monotub vs SGFC [Re: anonjon]
#14395269 - 05/03/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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anonjon said: making many cakes is more tedious than making a single monotub.
yes indeed, I don't do them anymore....
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ElVatoFirme
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How big a difference is the yield, though? I've seen people get over 4 oz from 33 cakes. That of course equals to about 3 and a half syringes. With that much solution used in monotubs, would the yield be larger?
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treewood69
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3 and 1/2 syringes jesbus chris you need to try 1 cc to wbs and then g2g.
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ElVatoFirme
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treewood69 said: 3 and 1/2 syringes jesbus chris you need to try 1 cc to wbs and then g2g.
Touche. Could you elaborate slightly? Can 1 cc really noc' up a whole jar of WBS?
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sporesmores420
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monotubs for sure
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sporesmores420
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Quote:
ElVatoFirme said:
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treewood69 said: 3 and 1/2 syringes jesbus chris you need to try 1 cc to wbs and then g2g.
Touche. Could you elaborate slightly? Can 1 cc really noc' up a whole jar of WBS?
yes it can
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treewood69
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sorry guys for being a dick but you have to do your homework.
Yes 1cc can colonize a jar of WBS. Might take a bit longer but if you shake its fast enough. Then that one jar of colonized wbs can do 10 more jars and so on.
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shroomiin
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I knocked up quart jars of wbs with 1.5cc of multispore. 2 weeks later they are about 75% done.
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shroomseng
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What size cakes?
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Re: Monotub vs SGFC [Re: shroomiin]
#19046766 - 10/28/13 03:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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shroomiin said: once you go to bulk grain spawn cakes seem like a joke and a waste of time.
Truth. I'll never ever again in my life fan and mist stupid little shit cakes (Unless I do some Pan Cyan's like that)... Set and forget is where its at with a mono.
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Re: Monotub vs SGFC [Re: Mosey3012]
#19049036 - 10/28/13 09:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You guys know you can fruit bulk substrates in a SGFC, right? It's not just for cakes.
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