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Re: Bin Laden [Re: GazzBut]
#14394790 - 05/03/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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With what percentage 1 - 100% do you believe the Osama story?
Greater than 99.9%
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zappaisgod said: There will always be murderers.
Love this part, heres why:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_war#Civilian_casualties http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Iraq
All the Taliban had to do was surrender bin Laden and Saddam Hussein to abide by the surrender he agreed to. Not unreasonable demands. Not by a long shot.
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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Seuss]
#14395253 - 05/03/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > With what percentage 1 - 100% do you believe the Osama story?
Completely, without reservation, 100%. (This coming from somebody that doesn't care for Obama as a President...)

Not everything in life is some nefarious conspiracy. The problem that I have with people like you is that it doesn't matter how much proof there is, you still won't believe it. You live in a fantasy world of paranoia where the mysterious powers that be are out to get us all. Even if you had been allowed to inspect the body, or better yet, had been there to see the man get killed, you would still find something to doubt. No proof is ever going to be good enough for you, yet you have the audacity to sit back and demand more as if it will somehow matter.
same here agree 100%
This is true. There are some people out there that would bitch about a blow job though.
All I was doing by starting this thread was stating what Fox was stating about osama being taken out. Then Obama announcing it on a sunday night. Then allof these morons came in here with the whole conspiracy bullshit taking up space and time to read. I was only wanting to discuss the story and the progress of information as it becam available from the media or the president / government. I hear today that they found a hard drive of video from the compound bin laden was living at. Waiting on the photos to be released.
If any of you have an issue with this thread, or want to try to spin it into a conspiracy conversation, then please take your ass to that forum. I only want to cover the info on this as it becomes available and applaude the soldiers efforts that made this possible.
Bin Laden has had an effect on some people here and for those of you that wish to throw up slander should no longer post here. I am one of them. I have even rode my motorcycle for hours on end in the rain following steel from the trade center to make a memorial for those that lost their lives because of this monster.
But too many want to make it about themselves and not about the ones that were effected by this guy, and that is half of this worlds problems these days, no one has any concern for anyone else in the world, or respect. I did not have to ride for 6 hours in the rain on my harley to follow a semi with steel from the trade center, but I did it to pay my respect for all those that were effected, not just those that died. And I was not alone, there was 15,000 others there to do the same.
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zappaisgod said: Go away. Even bringing up science tells me that you don't know what it is.
Science (in my own words) is a body of and method of attaining knowledge though repeatable, testable, observations of the evidence.
Now, Zappa, tell me how you have come to your conclusion scientifically you filthy lying intellectually dishonest bigot!
YOU DIDN'T
When did you see the body? you didnt.
When did you or anyone analyze the so called DNA evidence? they didn't.
Where is the body? gone.
There is absolutely no hard evidence you can provide us. You base your opinion merely on hearsay and bigotry.
"obama said it" is an argument from authority which is fallacy even in rhetoric nevermind science.
You're one sick puppy Zappa, Do you ever feel guilty about your dishonesty, or does it suit your agaenda and make you happy?
Showing you a picture isn't scientific evidence and somebody has, apparently, analyzed the DNA evidence and found it to be Osama. But then again, I didn't see them collect it or what they are comparing it to or anything else, all necessary standards for your burden of proof. So let us just call like it is. You don't believe anything at all. All you do is shout "LIE".
And now you lapse into some ignorant use of the logic term "argument from authority", which also has no application here. This isn't a logic exercise. He is either dead or he isn't. The President and several other people who should know have announced that he is. I have no reason to believe that they would lie or that they would think they could get away with lying about it. If they were lying all bin Laden would have to do would be get on tape with a later newspaper and expose the US President as a liar and a buffoon, which I'm sure, were he still extant, he would love to do.
You are making yourself look like an idiot.
There are many other logical explanations for why they would think they could actually get away with "staging his assassination."
1. He's already dead and they knew it. As keeping his death a secret had kept us in Afghanistan. And now that our work there is done this operation was executed, and by the Navy SEALS no less, "the quiet professionals." Also, did anyone mention an upcoming election? 2. The American Government payed off Osama to keep his mouth shut.(however unlikely) 3. Osama payed off the American Government or worked out some sort of truce behind closed doors, allowing Obama to publicly state his death.
If they hadn't dumped his body in the ocean, and within 24 hours, I wouldn't be as outraged as I am, and wouldn't be questioning this story as much.
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Re: Bin Laden [Re: mister]
#14395320 - 05/03/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You guys who believe 100% are 100% dishonest.
Those of us who respect due process, forensic investigation, and science, can see this plain s day.
It's not the fact that there could be a conspiracy that is the biggest worrying issue.
This issue is the irrational behavioral patterns that people exhibit.
To me it is more worrying that people believe the government 100% without any evidence than it is that there may be any conspiracy.
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Johnm said: All your straw man positions are some ridiculous endorsement of whatever it is "western media", "the man", and so forth have been saying. Shins is eve worse. That guy even knows the hobbies of his fantasy buddy: they watch WWF wrestling, enjoy Fox News, and so forth. He's constructed an entire alternate reality that he falls back into whenever his claims are criticized: suddenly the person who doesn't believe him turns into this effigy and Shins procededs to criticize all the made-up charecteristics of this straw man
Wow talk about straw man, you just dropped a hay bale on me!
The irony of your post if so thick, but i don;t expect you to acknowledge it, because that wouldn't fall into your little game.
I know exactly what you're doing john and i know you know it's bullshit. I'm not going to fall for your games, i know you are a dishonest person and i know a discussion with you would be futile with greater than %99.9 certainty.
The bottom line is; Conspiracies aside; if you beleive what ANYONE tells you 100% with no verifiable evidence, Y.O.U. A.R.E. I.N.S.A.NE.
Or a liar.
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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
#14395412 - 05/03/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you believe in a God?
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Re: Bin Laden [Re: OoBYCoO]
#14395554 - 05/03/11 05:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Me? i believe that god is "The All" Yes.
On other words, all of existence is god.
No leaps of faith required, just a subjective definition of a word.
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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
#14395560 - 05/03/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shins said: Me? i believe that god is "The All" Yes.
On other words, all of existence is god.
No leaps of faith required.
Science!
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Shins said: Me? i believe that god is "The All" Yes.
On other words, all of existence is god.
No leaps of faith required.

Nice submission genius. About the level of intellect i expect from you.
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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
#14395583 - 05/03/11 05:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shins said: Me? i believe that god is "The All" Yes.
On other words, all of existence is god.
No leaps of faith required.

Nice submission genius. About the level of intellect i expect from you.
What makes you think you know anything about my intellect? Have you scientifically studied it?
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Science!
Since when is putting a subjective definition to a word science, and when did i say it was?
You think you're sooo smart.
Besides, science can prove that things do in fact exist, there is a wealth of evidence for that.
I don't care how much of it exists, if it exists, it's god to me.
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Shins said: Me? i believe that god is "The All" Yes.
On other words, all of existence is god.
No leaps of faith required.

Nice submission genius. About the level of intellect i expect from you.
What makes you think you know anything about my intellect? Have you scientifically studied it?
As far as psychology as a science goes (debatable,) and reading your posts, yes i have. I haven't made any 100% conclusions especially in a "soft science", but i have noticed trends, and expect (hypothesize) that your future posts will be similar to past ones.
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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
#14395653 - 05/03/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Show your data.
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would you two take your bitch fight elsewhere.
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Shins
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zappaisgod said: Show your data.
since when do you care about data?
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Re: Bin Laden [Re: mister]
#14395736 - 05/03/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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mister said: would you two take your bitch fight elsewhere.
Yes sir, i was thinking the same thing.
go on...
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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
#14395752 - 05/03/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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There is also a science thread for you two to have it out in. Made my point a few posts up. Unless that just fell on blind eyes.
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Re: Bin Laden [Re: mister]
#14397287 - 05/03/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i can't believe the answer to murder is murder. it's like saying the answer to a fire in the woods is to douse it with a flame thrower. no one sees this as hypocritical huh?
anyone remember what happened with mussolini? they found him, shot him and his girlfriend, what she did i don't know to deserve that, without a trial.
did he deserve it? maybe. did they do the same thing to him they were rebelling against him for? absolutely.
you can't have a 'war on terror with terror'
you can't get rid of terrorists by shooting people in the street and causing terror. in our country if a person is dangerous, they are arrested and sent to trial, then later jail, we don't just shoot them in the street in the name of 'a war on terror'
and to be honest obama got a nobel fucking peace prize for trying to bring peace to the middle east. unbelievable. now i ask you this, now that osama bin laden is gone, is this war over? finally?
because hearing "we now have more confidence for the war on terror" a single other time, is complete bullshit. we need to be done messing with other peoples business.
it's their problem, not ours, and it definitely shouldn't cost us $100 billion a year to fight someone elses war, that is horse shit. think of our debt right now if we hadn't had this ten year war.
now for all the obama haters, if this guy ends up to be a lying sack of horse shit just like bush, which he already has, with a long speech on "the war on terror" then how can you possibly criticize him if you approve of those methods. that is disgusting and despicable.
i mean shit, in world war 2, 50 million people died, but at least we didn't bullshit every body. i mean sure there were corny propoganda cartoons etc. etc. but there was no "war on terror" horse shit. the world was falling apart, and we had to fight terror with terror, as there was no other way.
but a war on war is completely asinine. jesus 
we are creating a tidal wave so large it will sweep all the water out of the ocean and there will never be a tidal wave ever again. in the process asia will get hit with a tidal wave that will obliterate all it's civilians, but it's the tidal wave to end all tidal waves.
yeah...... 
that wouldn't make sense would it? but a war on terror makes sense.
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Re: Bin Laden [Re: Shins]
#14397294 - 05/03/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Show your data.
since when do you care about data?
hahaha, he only cares if it's data that agrees with his opinion
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2 wrongs don't make a right is what you're basically saying, right?
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