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'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers
    #14384279 - 05/01/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.bnd.com/2011/05/01/1691716/bath-salts-victims-family-unaware.html

Amanda Hodge dreaded the confused, rambling cell phone calls. They came from her brother Jeffrey Hodge. Late on Easter Sunday afternoon, he began calling every 10 minutes.

She hoped he would straighten his life out but on the final call, she said, her brother told her was doing drugs. Again. Jeffrey Hodge had been paroled from his second state prison term only two weeks earlier.

At first, she said she couldn't understand what kind of drug her at times incoherent brother was going on about when he said he "messed up."

"I thought he said he was doing asphalt," said Amanda Hodge, 29. But she said she finally understood that her brother was saying "bath salts."

Her voice broke during an interview Saturday, which included her parents and 17-year-old sister Andrea Murphy, about the tragic days that led to the death of Jeffrey Hodge on Friday at St. Louis University Hospital.

With the exception of Murphy, who said she had heard about the drug on the street from friends in Granite City, the family said they were totally unaware that "bath salts" had anything to do with drug abuse.

The drug is suspected as the cause of death for Jeffrey Hodge and Tonia Whitehead, 28, of Alton, who died Wednesday at Alton Memorial Hospital. Toxicology testing will be conducted in both cases to confirm a cause of death.

The synthetic drug known as "bath salts" or "plant food," is legally sold under a variety of commercial labels, including "Ivory Wave" and "Ocean," but has been reported as the cause of death for hundreds of people nationwide.

Abusers typically inject or snort the synthetic stimulants, which produce effects similar to amphetamines and cocaine -- including rising blood pressure and body temperature, hallucinations and suicidal tendencies.

St. Clair County State's Attorney Brendan Kelly said he wants to ban its sale. Alton and Granite City have passed similar ordinances banning chemicals found in the synthetic products.

But for Hodge's family, who stood by Jeffrey Hodge as he fought to end addiction to methamphetamine, learning that a lethal drug could be legally sold over the counter was cruel and bewildering.

On Tuesday, Granite City police received reports that a man acting in a bizarre manner randomly wandered into a home and had to be dragged out.

Friends told Hodge's sisters they witnessed his out of control behavior moments before his arrest.

"They said he yelling that people were after him and ripping his clothes off," Amanda Hodge said. "It took five people to hold him down."

When his family saw Jeffrey Hodge at St. Louis University Hospital, he was on his back with an oxygen tube strapped to his nose. Their cell phone photos show Hodge with a palm-sized purplish bruise on his cheek and deep cuts in his wrists caused, they thought, when he struggled to free himself from handcuffs while under the effects of the drug. When he first arrived at the emergency room, he was still struggling, Amanda Hodge said.

By the time Jeffrey Hodge's father, Patrick Kane, arrived at the hospital, he said his "tough, good-looking, smart" son was brain-dead.

Kane said his son was always too smart for his own good.

"He was always the leader," he said. "He thought he could get away with stuff."

His son was familiar with drugs but may have been a stranger to bath salts, Kane said.

Jeffrey Hodge's family said they were surprised by the potency of the drug -- and angry over how it is legal.

"This is so new they don't even have a test for it," Kane said.

"We want to share what happened so people can know it can kill their son, too."

Andrea Murphy, who also received manic cell phone calls from Jeffrey Hodge on Easter Sunday afternoon, allowed a reporter to hear a recording of one of her brother's last calls. He said he was in a car.

Despite the shaky audio, Jeffrey Hodge can be heard saying, "These people are tripping. I've got to get out of here."

His sister Andrea told him, "Do it. Get out of the car."

But Hodge seems to ignore her. Apparently in reference to going back to prison, he said, "Please write me this time."

Hodge never regained consciousness at the hospital after he had gone into a comalike state, his family said.

His mother, Nancy Hodge, stayed with him until on Friday morning she took a quick break. At 10:30 a.m. she said she returned to find a physician anxiously monitoring her son's falling blood pressure. Realizing her son was about to die, she took his hand and shouted, "Jeff, Jeff. Mommy's here. Mommy's here."

For a moment, Nancy Hodge said, the doctor said her son's pressure rose a few points.

"He told me, 'Keep talking to him. Keep talking."

"I said, 'You're going to come out of this. You can't leave us. We didn't celebrate your birthday.' He tried to open his eyes but he couldn't."

Nancy Hodge said her last words to her son were, "Open those pretty blue eyes for me."

Jeffrey Hodge was officially declared dead at the hospital at 6:52 p.m. His family was at his side.


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: 5-HT2A] * 1
    #14384373 - 05/01/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:haha:


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: Jwlst]
    #14384429 - 05/01/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

while I am against drug prohibition, I think these kinds of drugs should be illegal. they pose an obvious danger to other people when people take these drugs.


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14384493 - 05/01/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't understand if these bath salts are purely Mephedrone or MDPV, there should be no issue, unless they are taking an insanely high dose.


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of d [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14384517 - 05/01/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Led Zeppelin said:
while I am against drug prohibition, I think these kinds of drugs should be illegal. they pose an obvious danger to other people when people take these drugs.




Most people won't admit to hypocrisy, but you just plan admitted it.

The funny thing is thats why most drugs are illegal, "they pose an obvious danger to other people..."  IMO thats irrelevant because everyone has the right to control what they put in their bodies, and no one should be able to violate that right.  Education is the key to reduction, once people can think for themselves and do a risk analysis then a majority of them won't be inclined to do it.  On the other hand people will still continue to do drugs, and still continue to violate other's rights while on them.  In which case punish the person, not the drug.


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'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: 5-HT2A]
    #14385525 - 05/01/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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5-HT2A said:
...learning that a lethal drug could be legally sold over the counter was cruel and bewildering.



:facepalm:. Take too much of MANY substances can result in death, wake up.


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: Zunox1]
    #14385670 - 05/01/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Zunox1 said:
Quote:

5-HT2A said:
...learning that a lethal drug could be legally sold over the counter was cruel and bewildering.



:facepalm:. Take too much of MANY substances can result in death, wake up.




Ya Budweiser sounds real cruel to me alright.


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: Jwlst] * 1
    #14385837 - 05/01/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Jwlst said:
:haha:



Really dude? This immaturity hurts to look at... Seriously for a board around such a sacred thing that thrives only off the death of a full well lived passed life you should really have more respect for the dead being here...

The kid may not have been the smartest kid ever, but he was originally addicted to Meth... While I do not have sympathy for his idiotic choice I understand he was probably living in a position where he really did not have access to information to help understand the dangers of his own actions.

This kid is another victim of misinformation and lack of support.


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: tacodude]
    #14385942 - 05/01/11 11:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm glad someone posted in regards to that troll.


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: vandago]
    #14385980 - 05/01/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A junkie died and you guys are all falling down to say how sad it is?

Junkies are what they are, nasty selfish people who prefer personal pleasure at the expense of their families and loved ones. If all the drugs in the world suddenly dissappeared, all the junkies would move onto sitting in thier rooms jerking off all fucking day because their idea of a good life is simple hedonistic pleasure and they find that more rewarding than caring about those around them and seeing the damage their selfish attitude does.

Just because I use drugs doesn't mean I have to cry a fucken river when some dropkick speedfreak across the world dies and pretend he was a victim of circumstance or a drug. I use drugs yet would never let myself get to that point because I wouldn't want to hurt those around me.

People like him give all drug users a bad name.


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: Jwlst]
    #14386027 - 05/01/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Jwlst said:
A junkie died and you guys are all falling down to say how sad it is?...

If all the drugs in the world suddenly dissappeared, all the junkies would move onto sitting in thier rooms jerking off all fucking day because their idea of a good life is simple hedonistic pleasure and they find that more rewarding than caring about those around them and seeing the damage their selfish attitude does.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrite

I'm pretty sure people like you give them a bad name. It's incredible to me that you think you're in a position to levy blanket criticism at "junkies" for not caring for those around them when you are clearly guilty of the very same thing.


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: 5-HT2A]
    #14386045 - 05/01/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

you win this round :gameover:


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: Jwlst]
    #14386052 - 05/01/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Jwlst said:
A junkie died and you guys are all falling down to say how sad it is?

Junkies are what they are, nasty selfish people who prefer personal pleasure at the expense of their families and loved ones. If all the drugs in the world suddenly dissappeared, all the junkies would move onto sitting in thier rooms jerking off all fucking day because their idea of a good life is simple hedonistic pleasure and they find that more rewarding than caring about those around them and seeing the damage their selfish attitude does.

Just because I use drugs doesn't mean I have to cry a fucken river when some dropkick speedfreak across the world dies and pretend he was a victim of circumstance or a drug. I use drugs yet would never let myself get to that point because I wouldn't want to hurt those around me.

People like him give all drug users a bad name.






Wow pal.  You are such a fucking hipocrit.  You use drugs but youre not as bad as THAT guy?  OOOOOhhhhh " I snort my heroin....I don't shoot it...that shits for junkies "


Shut the fuck up!  You don't know shit.  Nobody here is telling you to have a mourning period over the guy, but you came right out of the bull pen with some trolling crap.  People dying from drugs and being "junkies" isn't their individual fault at all times.  I have met several people addicted to dope in bad ways and pull themselves out....I've also met really good people addicted to dope in good ways, never bothering a soul.....and not get out.



People like you make me sick.


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of [Re: Jwlst]
    #14386053 - 05/01/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Jwlst said:
A junkie died and you guys are all falling down to say how sad it is?

Junkies are what they are, nasty selfish people who prefer personal pleasure at the expense of their families and loved ones. If all the drugs in the world suddenly dissappeared, all the junkies would move onto sitting in thier rooms jerking off all fucking day because their idea of a good life is simple hedonistic pleasure and they find that more rewarding than caring about those around them and seeing the damage their selfish attitude does.

Just because I use drugs doesn't mean I have to cry a fucken river when some dropkick speedfreak across the world dies and pretend he was a victim of circumstance or a drug. I use drugs yet would never let myself get to that point because I wouldn't want to hurt those around me.

People like him give all drug users a bad name.




It's not sad as to say HE died, it's sad to see what everyone around him has to be put through because of his actions. It is also sad that his life was taken by something that could've been resolved.

Stop being so ignorant all the goddamn time about "he gives drug users a bad name" because theres a difference between a drug addict and a drug user, and saying that he gives YOU a bad name implies you are a "junkie".


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of [Re: nixon]
    #14386058 - 05/01/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Oh..didn't know everyone would attack that at one time but okay


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in your 2nd pic that mushroom is actively standing on its head for sure

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    #14386089 - 05/01/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hey come on guys I announced game over, please stop hurting me over the internet. I accept your views that this junkie was a wonderful addition to society and it is a real shame he is no longer in the gene pool. I weep with you for this tragic loss of young noble life.

:haha:


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    #14386096 - 05/01/11 11:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Keep doing your drugs the right way to show all those cruddy addicts how it's done :facepalm:


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of 'bath salts' victim unaware of drug's dangers [Re: vandago]
    #14386166 - 05/01/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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vandago said:
I'm glad someone posted in regards to that troll.



what he said


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of [Re: Jwlst]
    #14387473 - 05/02/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Jwlst said:
Hey come on guys I announced game over, please stop hurting me over the internet. I accept your views that this junkie was a wonderful addition to society and it is a real shame he is no longer in the gene pool. I weep with you for this tragic loss of young noble life.

:haha:



I was not trying to get sympathy for this dumb ass, although again he is a victim of misinformation and lack of support (really his family didn't write to him in prison?)

I was just trying to point out how DISRESPECTFUL it is to LAUGH at death.... Especially to be the first poster. Everyone deals with it in their own ways, but give to be healthy it needs respect because the passing of life to death is one of the most powerful, beautiful, yet also scary things that exist.

edit: sorry just had to get my last words in and make sure everything was clear... I could care more about two rats poop in a burrito over this kid.


Edited by tacodude (05/02/11 08:53 AM)


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Re: 'He thought he could get away with stuff': Family of [Re: tacodude]
    #14388013 - 05/02/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

the only way to fix the problem of all these overdoses is if they make all mental faculty distortion chemicals illegal. But at the same time creating a supported section of legal drugs so that we would have devices that work much like narcan for each of these drugs  :lsd:


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