|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
FrankHorrigan
The Inquisition



Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 10,573
|
storing sterilized grain in bags?
#14383772 - 05/01/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
I got filter patch bags of two different kinds of grain. Rye berries and WBS. 3 quarts ea. PC'd for 2 hours. Impulse sealed 4x.
How long can I store them before they are no longer fit to inoculate?
|
mabachko
Just Strange



Registered: 02/11/11
Posts: 702
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#14383805 - 05/01/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
I kept mine in the fridge for about a month and a half and they were ok.
|
Perun
Mahapralaya...



Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 585
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: mabachko]
#14383815 - 05/01/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Just wrap them with some foil to keep molds out! There is no clean fridge in the world!
-------------------- First: Then:
|
mabachko
Just Strange



Registered: 02/11/11
Posts: 702
Last seen: 8 years, 7 months
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: Perun]
#14383828 - 05/01/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Yeh I forgot to mention they were in a bag. Thnx Perun
|
Perun
Mahapralaya...



Registered: 11/11/10
Posts: 585
Last seen: 2 years, 3 months
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: mabachko]
#14383837 - 05/01/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
mabachko said: Yeh I forgot to mention they were in a bag. Thnx Perun
-------------------- First: Then:
|
punkrocker292004
i am a liar



Registered: 12/17/09
Posts: 2,921
Loc:
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: Perun]
#14383858 - 05/01/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
2 weeks max unless refrigerated ofcourse as said above
-------------------- EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW on a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero-tyler durden watch me
|
steelmonkey
Homejigger



Registered: 02/22/11
Posts: 1,822
Loc: Nova Scotia,Canada
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: Perun]
#14383866 - 05/01/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
there is no clean eviroment in the world not even a lab so i don't know how long it could keep realisticly,id be curious to know rough timelines
|
Doc_T
Random Dude




Registered: 03/06/09
Posts: 42,395
Loc: Colorado
|
|
Sooner is better with bags. No way I'd go over two weeks, and even two days seems like a lot. Of course, it depends on how much colonized grain you use for the transfer.
-------------------- You make it all possible. Doesn't it feel good?
|
steelmonkey
Homejigger



Registered: 02/22/11
Posts: 1,822
Loc: Nova Scotia,Canada
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: Doc_T]
#14383936 - 05/01/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
I'd be paranoid enough with grain after one day but I'm sure theres a longer timeframe
|
MOPE
Walking Chemical Reaction


Registered: 10/07/08
Posts: 831
Last seen: 10 years, 5 months
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: steelmonkey]
#14383950 - 05/01/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
yeah I agree, If I can't get to a jar within 3 or 4 days of PCing I just chuck it and start over but thats just me, I'm sure you could go a good bit longer
--------------------
Got used to the feeling of falling But you'll never see me following Bouncing back and forth between the healing and the hollering Riding the outer ring of my own private saturn Thoughts scattered all across the grey matter
|
punkrocker292004
i am a liar



Registered: 12/17/09
Posts: 2,921
Loc:
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: MOPE]
#14384050 - 05/01/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
steelmonkey said: I'd be paranoid enough with grain after one day but I'm sure theres a longer timeframe
Quote:
MOPE said: yeah I agree, If I can't get to a jar within 3 or 4 days of PCing I just chuck it and start over but thats just me, I'm sure you could go a good bit longer
same but vendors say 2 weeks thats where i got the two weeks from
-------------------- EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW on a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero-tyler durden watch me
|
FrankHorrigan
The Inquisition



Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 10,573
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#14384070 - 05/01/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
I'll be using lc to knock the bags up in about a week. Just waiting for the lcs to finish colonizing.
|
steelmonkey
Homejigger



Registered: 02/22/11
Posts: 1,822
Loc: Nova Scotia,Canada
Last seen: 2 years, 5 months
|
|
Its probally true but me personally id have to actually leave it myself to get comfortable with it a few times
longest ive left mine was two days because I got suddenly busy and it worked out fine but it still made me nervous I admit
|
Doc_T
Random Dude




Registered: 03/06/09
Posts: 42,395
Loc: Colorado
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#14384192 - 05/01/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
yakwhacker said: I'll be using lc to knock the bags up in about a week. Just waiting for the lcs to finish colonizing.
DO NOT inject untested LC into five bags!!
-------------------- You make it all possible. Doesn't it feel good?
|
FrankHorrigan
The Inquisition



Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 10,573
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: Doc_T]
#14384325 - 05/01/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Doc_T said:
DO NOT inject untested LC into five bags!!
I will make test bags first. I forgot to factor that into time frame.
|
Doc_T
Random Dude




Registered: 03/06/09
Posts: 42,395
Loc: Colorado
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#14384346 - 05/01/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Test... bags? Why not a few small jars, then use those for gran to grain to start the bags?
-------------------- You make it all possible. Doesn't it feel good?
|
FrankHorrigan
The Inquisition



Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 10,573
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: Doc_T]
#14384372 - 05/01/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Have yet to have any contam issues, its been 9 months now. Big fan of oust and ISO. I can accept the loss of a bag. But if it takes off then I'd rather have it as a good bag. Also, I don't have a flowhood for grain to grain. Is there an alternate method? Glovebox is a bit restrictive for my taste and I've heard its not enough for grain transfers.
|
Doc_T
Random Dude




Registered: 03/06/09
Posts: 42,395
Loc: Colorado
|
Re: storing sterilized grain in bags? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
#14384471 - 05/01/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
|
|
Glovebox is ok for grain transfer, though restrictive. Oust, etc, shouldn't matter if you're using a syringe.
I do grain transfer in open air sometimes, but there's no way I can recommend it other than as a test.
-------------------- You make it all possible. Doesn't it feel good?
|
|