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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: unam sanctum]
#14384237 - 05/01/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Which is also why he won't come close to getting elected.
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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: Gastronomicus]
#14384248 - 05/01/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If it was between Paul and Obama... I don't know really, I like Barrack... I like Ron... it'd be a good year for politics
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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: unam sanctum]
#14384260 - 05/01/11 06:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fuck I hate being Canadian.... we have no one good to vote for. The concervatives like sucking bushes dick and the ´liberals´ are more conservative than some of your hard nosed republicans. On the other side of the scale, the NDP is way too socialist. *sigh*.. I hate canadian politics.
I might just get a dual citicenship, if only to vote for Ron Paul... Hell, I think every Canadian should get to vote in the American elections, they practically run our country more than our own leaders do....
*dont mean to derail this topic*
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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: PreparationH]
#14384267 - 05/01/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think Ron Paul looks kinda like Timothy Leary. Like he could be his little brother or something.
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StatuesCryBleeding said: Fuck I hate being Canadian....
Shut it. At least the rest of the world likes you all (if only a little more). It's fucked that people think America is even a true democracy because I swear our last 2(if not 4) elections have been hijacked. But the real issue is people, even intelligent ones, see it as left vs. right, conservative vs. liberal- without realizing that money controls every aspect of everything and the corporations will sponsor any candidate, from any party, as long as they think they'll be able to control him/her on the important votes.
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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: unam sanctum]
#14384308 - 05/01/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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unam sanctum said:
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StatuesCryBleeding said: Fuck I hate being Canadian....
Shut it. At least the rest of the world likes you all (if only a little more). It's fucked that people think America is even a true democracy because I swear our last 2(if not 4) elections have been hijacked. But the real issue is people, even intelligent ones, see it as left vs. right, conservative vs. liberal- without realizing that money controls every aspect of everything and the corporations will sponsor any candidate, from any party, as long as they think they'll be able to control him/her on the important votes.
Ahh but my friend, Canada is nothing more than a apathetic version of the states. The world only notices how shitty America is because people actually stand up to your politicians and call out your greedy corporate fat cats. Here, weŕe just to damn polite to say anything.
You have over zealous redknecks in the southern states, we have over zealous redknecks in alberta. You have liberal doushtards in california and new york, we have overly liiberal doushtards in Toronto. You have mexicans, we have asians.
Canada <-----> America
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Lol, Alas I can't disagree. I means I don't know, but I believe you. The whole planet seems to be fucking itself these days solely for greed and ego. I for one say we produce/import less oil and more shrooms!
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I'll let Ron Paul explain it to you
"Abortion on demand is the ultimate State tyranny; the State simply declares that certain classes of human beings are not persons, and therefore not entitled to the protection of the law. The State protects the "right" of some people to kill others, just as the courts protected the "property rights" of slave masters in their slaves. Moreover, by this method the State achieves a goal common to all totalitarian regimes: it sets us against each other, so that our energies are spent in the struggle between State-created classes, rather than in freeing all individuals from the State. Unlike Nazi Germany, which forcibly sent millions to the gas chambers (as well as forcing abortion and sterilization upon many more), the new regime has enlisted the assistance of millions of people to act as its agents in carrying out a program of mass murder."
Equating abortion to mass murder. There you have it.
All you Ron Paul acolytes should take a look at the actual policies he espouses. It's great that he wants to legalize pot, hooray, but at what cost? Everybody just gets all wet in their panties because he'll openly say that weed should be legal, but he's also a racist and anti-choice. Just another old white man who thinks he knows what is best for a woman's uterus.
Fuck Ron Paul
Yeahhhhhhh........
I don't even know where to begin with this. First of all, you can not get away with saying that Ron Paul is anti-choice.
His view on abortion legalization is strictly that individual states get to make that decision. Every time he's asked whether he will make abortion legal or illegal, he says that it is not the federal governments role to make that law, it is in the STATES power, so he will leave it up to them. Any power not specifically classified as a federal power, (including abortion), is classified as a "reserved power" under the Constitution, which by default are given up to the states. Sure he may have his own views on abortion, (views that are NOT being accurately represented with a short quote taken completely out of context), but Ron Paul explains and acknowledges this, and has declared many times that he will make no federal laws regarding abortion.
Ron Paul is ALL about personal choice and personal freedom, and as much of it as fucking possible. But first and foremost, he is all about the Constitution. Creating and maintaining a TRUE, HONEST government that has nothing to hide. But for this reason, he will unfortunately never get elected. The media controls who is president, and it will forever end up being the person who will best suit the interests of the CIA and others behind the scenes to do their fucked up things. I mean, Ron Paul has openly stated that he wants to ABOLISH the CIA. There are many factors that will never let this happen.
If I vote, I WILL vote for him though.
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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: PreparationH]
#14384630 - 05/01/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: Obama 2012
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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: electricfeel]
#14384636 - 05/01/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't even know where to begin with this. First of all, you can not get away with saying that Ron Paul is anti-choice.
Really? I can't get away with saying a factual statement?
"I have a Bill in congress I certainly would promote and push as president, called the Sanctity of Life Amendment. We establish the principle that life begins at conception. And someone says, ‘oh why are you saying that?’ and I say, ‘well, that’s not a political statement -- that’s a scientific statement that I’m making!"
Ron Paul is anti-choice. That is a demonstrable fact. Just because he believes that abortion should not be banned at a federal level does not mean that he is opposed to abortion being banned. All of this can be found out by a simple google search, or in Ron Paul's wikipedia page. But don't let me in any way cloud your vision of the constituional savior. "If" you vote (there shouldn't even be a question here, you should always vote), you would do well to examine the candidates on a factual basis. Ron Paul has some admirable positions, true. He has a firmer grasp of the constitutional limits of government than most candidates do. He's for ending the drug war. Both of these are great, but do a little digging. Under the bright sunny surface of gleaming libertarianism, there are some ugly truths about Ron Paul.
But don't let the truth get in the way of your beliefs, just like the rest of the republican party
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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: Gastronomicus]
#14385321 - 05/01/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doesn't matter now. The u.s. Killed Osama. Reelection guaranteed... Sorry paulists...
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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: fbi365]
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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: Gastronomicus]
#14385417 - 05/01/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Like I said,Obama 2012. Can't wait to be a United States Marine.
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Re: Does Ron Paul even have a chance? [Re: PreparationH] 1
#14385662 - 05/01/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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if i were american, ron paul would definitely have my vote. obama's a lying bastard. trump is a clown. ron paul is your only hope.
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Gastronomicus said: I give him about a 10% chance of getting the nomination, if he gets that I give him a 40% chance of beating Obama.
I hope he doesn't get elected. I don't want anyone in office who is so anti-choice.
HAHAHAHAHHA like abortion is a bigger issue than the fucking economy HAHAHAHAH. and if you knew ANYTHING about ron paul ud know that he said he would let the states choose their own abortion laws even though he personally is against abortion. and obviously he is against abortion because he has delivered so 1000s of babies in his lifetime.
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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: Led Zeppelin]
#14385696 - 05/01/11 10:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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He has no chance, but I'm still going to vote for him. If that doesn't work and the republican party still wants me to vote for 'em they can shove my boot up their ass.
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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: Maverick]
#14385728 - 05/01/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nope.
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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: Led Zeppelin] 1
#14385914 - 05/01/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gastronomicus said: I give him about a 10% chance of getting the nomination, if he gets that I give him a 40% chance of beating Obama.
I hope he doesn't get elected. I don't want anyone in office who is so anti-choice.
HAHAHAHAHHA like abortion is a bigger issue than the fucking economy HAHAHAHAH. and if you knew ANYTHING about ron paul ud know that he said he would let the states choose their own abortion laws even though he personally is against abortion. and obviously he is against abortion because he has delivered so 1000s of babies in his lifetime.
even if he did want laws enacted against abortion, how would he be able to with the roe vs wade decision. and about the economy, exactly, we need to get the democrats out who love spending and big government
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Re: Does Ron Paul have a chance? [Re: bigmike7104]
#14385957 - 05/01/11 11:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Democrats love spending and big government, do you get all of your talking points from Fox? And all you Paulites should know this, one of the powers granted to the President is the appointment of supreme court justices. Who would have the ability to affect the constitutionality of abortion in the future? The anti-choice justices that Ron Paul would appoint.
But lets be honest. 90% of you aren't going to vote anyway. If you do vote, it'll be in the final presidential election and not in the primaries.
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