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Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs.
    #14382952 - 05/01/11 04:29 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

EU gives a poisoned May Day gift to its citizens - makes herbal remedies ILLEGAL



EU May Day Ban on Herbal Remedies Happy May Day!

. . .which is not so happy for the citizens of Europe. Today, on labour day, all across France, friends, neighbours and loved ones will give each other the time-honoured May Day gift of a pot or sprig of beautiful Muget (Lily of the Valley) as a token of appreciation and well-wishing for the coming year.

A tradition said to have begun when King Charles IX of France was presented with these fragrant flowers as a token of luck and prosperity for the coming year; who then began the custom of presenting Muget to the ladies of his court each year on May 1st.

Sadly, the new 'King,' the European Commission, isn't such a benevolent personage and is giving a very unpleasant May Day 'gift' this year to all its citizens. Through its Traditional Herbal Medicine Products Directive it is, effectively, making illegal, simple herbal remedies such as St John's Wort, Hawthorn, Milk Thistle, Horse Chestnut, Valerian, Echinacea and many many more, including ayurvedic and traditional Chinese Medicine remedies, as well as combination herbal remedies and those with significant vitamins and minerals in them.

All things many of us routinely take. But, unless herbal manufacturers can comply with expensive, onerous and, in many cases, discriminatory and impossible to meet 'licensing' criteria the herbal remedies they produce or sell will be prohibited and no longer able to be sold. i.e. you will no longer be able to get or use them.
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http://blog.energyawareness.org/science-and-politics/bad-medicine-attacks-herbal-remedies/

More proof from search link:

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=Europe+and+banning+medicinal+herbs&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=f98e57853df6fcf3

I really don't see hwo the people can stand for something like that. It is so obvious!


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: teknix]
    #14383012 - 05/01/11 04:38 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

wow well there goes my plan for living in Europe
i like my herbal remedies thank you


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: teknix]
    #14383031 - 05/01/11 04:42 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

Fucking ridiculous.

Pretty much the start of Codex Alimentarius.

And the worse thing is I know people are going to sit back and accept it or rationalise it away as if it doesn't matter.


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: teknix]
    #14383073 - 05/01/11 04:52 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

fuck... i signed 5 petitions in the hopes that this would not happen... shit...


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: Micawber]
    #14383086 - 05/01/11 04:53 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/health/health-shops-fear-over-eu-ban-on-herbal-medicines-1.1098810?localLinksEnabled=false

Health shops’ fear over EU ban on herbal medicines


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CONSUMERS will no longer be able to buy certain herbal medicines over the counter from tomorrow as a European directive regulating their sale comes into force.

As of May 1, individual herbal medicines must be licensed if they are to be sold over the counter.

A total of 105 herbal medicines have been licensed so far under the UK Government’s Traditional Herbal Registration scheme, which indicates a product has met required standards of quality and safety, with about 100 more undergoing assessment.

Those that have not been licensed include meadowsweet for arthritis. Health food shops may continue to sell unlicensed products until stocks ordered before May 1 have run out. However, many shops in Scotland fear the legislation will have an adverse effect.

Ainslie Friel, owner of Hanover Health Foods in Edinburgh, said he had stocked up in advance, but added: “Obviously we’re not very pleased. People are going to be looking overseas on the internet for products, so there’s a moral jeopardy there.”

    We’re not pleased. People are going to be looking on the internet for products so there is a moral jeopardy there

Josine Atsma, who recently became the owner of Stirling Health Food Store, said she would have to stop selling products which currently account for around 10% of her business. However, she believes it will just be a hiatus as her main supplier is likely to have more products licensed over the coming months.

The licences are granted, not to generic products such as echninacea, but to individual products by particular manufacturers. Manufacturers must show that each herb has 30 years of traditional use, 15 of which must be in the EU.

Roger Craddock, group legal director at NBTY Europe, owners of Holland & Barrett, said the company had committed to obtaining licences for its products, even though the registration process was “extremely complex, hugely time-consuming and expensive”.

He welcomed a change allowing medicinal claims to be made on product labels, but said it was a “significant drawback” that modern herbs which could not show the required 30 years’ of traditional use would now not be sold.

The Alliance for Natural Health, which campaigns for natural healthcare, points out that among the products licensed so far, well under 100 plant species are included out of a total of more than 1000 commonly used as medicinal herbs. It adds that herbs used in the European tradition dominate those granted licences so far, while not a single herbal remedy used in Ayurveda (from India) and traditional Chinese medicine, has been approved.

The register, managed by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency, is being established to comply with an EU directive passed in 2004.

The legislation states that unlicensed herbal medicines may still be used in one instance – if prescribed by registered herbal medicines practitioners.

However, as yet, no formal register of herbalists exists in the UK, even though herbalists have been calling for statutory regulation of their profession for more than a decade.

With herbalists facing significant restrictions on their ability to practise unless they are formally registered, Westminster health secretary Andrew Lansley announced in February that the Health Professions Council had been tasked with establishing a statutory register of herbal practitioners, part of a UK-wide unified approach.

The register is likely to be set up in 2012, following consultation by the Scottish Government, and only practitioners reaching certain standards of training will be registered. Those practitioners will then have access to the full range of herbal medicines when prescribing remedies to patients.

Michael McIntyre, chairman of the European Herbal and Traditional Medicines Practitioners Association, said: “We are absolutely delighted the Government has now at long last gone for statutory regulation of practitioners, without which patients would lose access to a very wide range of herbal medicines.” But some confusion exists over what will happen to herbalists who continue to prescribe unlicensed products during the hiatus between now and the setting up of the register, although they too will be permitted to carry on prescribing unlicensed products until their pre-existing stocks run out.


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: Micawber]
    #14383164 - 05/01/11 05:13 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

Nice post Micawber. :thumbup:


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: teknix]
    #14383280 - 05/01/11 05:37 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

I guess it was, true I've been hearing about this for some years now.

So how long until the States follow along.


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: 4runner]
    #14384180 - 05/01/11 08:25 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

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anunnakian said:
I guess it was, true I've been hearing about this for some years now.

So how long until the States follow along.



thats what im waiting for
that prick mccain already has it out for
the supplement industry


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: Micawber]
    #14384309 - 05/01/11 08:56 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

How can you ban herbal remedies? You cant even argue that they are "bad" as someone could with other natural drugs.

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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: Micawber]
    #14384392 - 05/01/11 09:21 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

This had previously been proposed in the states by the FDA but it was pretty quickly shot down. The ridiculous part was they were even going as far as fruit/vegetable juice blends, acai juice, blue machine, that sorta stuff.


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: teknix]
    #14384425 - 05/01/11 09:26 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

:facepalm:


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14384529 - 05/01/11 09:47 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

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This had previously been proposed in the states by the FDA but it was pretty quickly shot down. The ridiculous part was they were even going as far as fruit/vegetable juice blends, acai juice, blue machine, that sorta stuff.




lots of "dietary supplements" are regulated to some extent, but less so than "drugs".
It's not ideal.
but in the US, anything that has a health claim faces scientific scrutiny. (More or less.)


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: teknix]
    #14384550 - 05/01/11 09:50 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

WOT?? :frown:


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    #14384745 - 05/01/11 10:23 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

They proposed i think it was last year or the year before to make it all require prescriptions and licensed holistic practitioners....all pretty much a scheme to make holistics a college degree and make supplements controlled by big pharma generating more money for the state .


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    #14384771 - 05/01/11 10:25 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

Holistics needs a college degree if it wants to be taken seriously in the modern world.

Semi-related, a ever-larger number of nurses are getting Doctorate of Nursing degrees. It's awkward, sometimes you have to call them "Doctor", other times you can't.


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: Epigallo]
    #14384787 - 05/01/11 10:28 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

My issue is that it even bans things that lack labels saying it is for medical aid.  Here in the states I can go buy a bottle of milk thistle that says NOTHING about possible health benefits and just says any claims are not regulated by the FDA blah blah blah talk to your doctor if you decide to use this product.  Wtf is the problem with bottles like that?  I doubt many idiots are gonna walk down the isle and buy a bunch of random things because they like the name - and if they do, I don't give a fuck if they die.


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Re: Europe BANS Medicinal Herbs. [Re: bbl337]
    #14384810 - 05/01/11 10:32 PM (10 years, 8 days ago)

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I doubt many idiots are gonna walk down the isle and buy a bunch of random things because they like the name - and if they do, I don't give a fuck if they die.




People are dying from 'bath salts'. This isn't like that, but people are dumb.


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