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MadamLeMorte
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Little brown mushroom ID
#14382574 - 05/01/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I went looking for morels and found these little brown mushrooms.

Habitat: Found growing beneath pine trees that had very long needles
Gills: Light brown and free
Stem: light brown, no remenants of a partial veil, no volva, about an 1" to 2" tall. The stem is equal.
Cap: light to dark brown, conical shaped, less than an inch in diameter.
Spore print color: Waiting on the spore print.
Bruising: No color change was observed.
Location: Mid Michigan
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NeoSporen
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Just a guess, but maybe some sort of Entoloma sp
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Re: Little brown mushroom ID [Re: NeoSporen]
#14382605 - 05/01/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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bfogg8706 said: Just a guess, but maybe some sort of Entoloma sp 
I agree, especially if the spore print is pink.
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NeoSporen
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Re: Little brown mushroom ID [Re: Byrain]
#14382618 - 05/01/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It resembles pictures I have of Entoloma strictius. The last picture kinda shows a bit of pink in the gills.
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MadamLeMorte
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Re: Little brown mushroom ID [Re: NeoSporen]
#14383359 - 05/01/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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When I looked up Entoloma it said the gills are attached to the stem. My find has gills free of the stem and the print looked brown when I checked, but I'm waiting longer for a darker print.
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Blue-FunGuy
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I’m fairly certain those are Entoloma/Nolanea.
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Re: Little brown mushroom ID [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#14385362 - 05/01/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't think so. Mushrooms Demystified says "The gills are typically attached to the start (in contrast to the other major pinkish-spored family, the Pluteaceae", and the stalk in not cleanly separable from the cap.)" Pg. 238.
It could be Nolanea Verna.
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Alan Rockefeller
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They are Entoloma/Nolanea.
Your mushrooms do not have free gills.
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MadamLeMorte
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But I thought that gills that didn't touch the stem were called free?
The pictures aren't so great, because I unfortunately don't have a good camera, but you can see that the gills don't touch the stipe.
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amilibertine
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Could it be a Pluteus species?
Not that I want to disagree with Alan, but those do look like free gills to me?
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Byrain


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Quote:
amilibertine said: Could it be a Pluteus species?
Not that I want to disagree with Alan, but those do look like free gills to me? 
I found an Entoloma with free gills once - http://mushroomobserver.org/63033?q=4Kc0
Even if the gills are free, I'm betting its Entoloma.
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Re: Little brown mushroom ID [Re: Byrain]
#14390207 - 05/02/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Habit and habitat say Entoloma to me. Gills look attached. The gills pull away from the stem sometimes when the cap expands.
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Re: Little brown mushroom ID [Re: Bobzimmer]
#14390372 - 05/02/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those have got to be Entoloma/Nolanea sp. -- something like Entoloma vernum sounds about right.
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MadamLeMorte
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Re: Little brown mushroom ID [Re: Oreganic]
#14391248 - 05/02/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks so much for helping me identify this. I'm a n00bie at this and this is great for learning.
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psylosymonreturns
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hey your arguement was vallid and very un noobish.
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MadamLeMorte
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I'm just trying to do this right. All the books I have right now and have been looking in say that if all the characteristics don't match up then you don't have and ID and to keep looking.
I know that sometimes the mushrooms can be misshapen and be off in color, but certain things don't change like spore print color, but at the moment I'm not sure if the way the gills are is one of them. I'd have to look that one back up.
And even though I'm a n00b I can definitely say 100% the gills on these mushrooms are not attached to the stipe.
I'm just happy there is a place to learn and get feedback from. Thanks again mushroom peeps!
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Alan Rockefeller
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Quote:
amilibertine said: Could it be a Pluteus species?
No.
Sometimes the gills pull away from the stem as they dry out or the mushrooms get handled.
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I found some in roughly 60 degree weather. Rained a little yesterday sunny today. 2-3 inches tall. Off white to brown caps. Gills are similar but a darker brown on the larger ones. Growing in grass near rocks a small grassy bush and some wood thing that looks nice. Caps are coned almost like and umbrella. Gills are separated and loosely attached to the stem. Stem is lighter but still a similar off-white brown. It is roughly .5-1 centimeter thick. Firm no apparent bruising. The whole thing is smooth not slimy.
Spore print and pictures tonight. Let me know if you have any ideas....
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Byrain


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Re: Little brown mushroom ID [Re: Germanxc0re]
#14394108 - 05/03/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Germanxc0re said: I found some in roughly 60 degree weather. Rained a little yesterday sunny today. 2-3 inches tall. Off white to brown caps. Gills are similar but a darker brown on the larger ones. Growing in grass near rocks a small grassy bush and some wood thing that looks nice. Caps are coned almost like and umbrella. Gills are separated and loosely attached to the stem. Stem is lighter but still a similar off-white brown. It is roughly .5-1 centimeter thick. Firm no apparent bruising. The whole thing is smooth not slimy.
Spore print and pictures tonight. Let me know if you have any ideas....
Please make your own thread with pictures and the spore print, you're much more likely to get helpful responses that way.
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amilibertine
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Quote:
Alan Rockefeller said:
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amilibertine said: Could it be a Pluteus species?
No.
Sometimes the gills pull away from the stem as they dry out or the mushrooms get handled.
Yeah, I know that can happen it just seemed from the last pic that it really did have free gills.
You're the expert though man, I'm certain that you are right.
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