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PoopyGonzales
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Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus)
#14381503 - 05/01/11 06:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have a small maybe 4 month old Psychotria Nexus, and have moved it indoors so it doesn't freeze or die from the cold that is coming up.
but my problem is it keeps getting eaten by sap-suckers or aphids, and always has ants on it, u just cant get rid of anything, are ants going to cause problems with the Psychotria? Because I was told that they should't harm the plant and might keep the aphids away.
Does anyone know any natural pesticides to rid the aphids? if not what are some good sore bought ones? I have been told garlic works to keep away some bugs, but am not to sure what to do with garlic other than mix minced garlic with water and just spray it on.
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Re: Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus) [Re: PoopyGonzales]
#14381704 - 05/01/11 08:48 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you truly have both aphids and ants, then the ants might be farming the aphids. Look carefully on the underside of the leaves and at the join The first step is getting rid of the ants in that case.
As for control, a lot of people like to use Neem oil, but homemade white oil should work well. You can also just blast the insects off regularly if the plant is sturdy.
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PoopyGonzales
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Re: Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus) [Re: naum]
#14387007 - 05/02/11 06:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i deffinately have both. thanks for the help, would store bought pesticides poison the water if it is growing hydroponically?
it is not the only plant in the room growing so i wouldnt want to kill 6 plants for no reason.
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Re: Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus) [Re: PoopyGonzales]
#14388753 - 05/02/11 01:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Honestly if there is any way that you could enclose it and realease some ladybugs to do your bigging, they will trump sprays any day of the week. Molasses repells ants if you are worried about them.
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PoopyGonzales
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Re: Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus) [Re: mr_minds_eye]
#14392795 - 05/03/11 03:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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unfortunately I cant get it attacked with ladybugs its a bit cold at the moment and I dont know anyone with a spare jay of ladybugs to give me haha.
here is a few pictures so you can see what I mean by the bugs not leaving it alone, ever since I had it it has been attacked, im starting to feel sorry for the poor plant because it is not in the best condition and I would like to pretty it up, and get it looking healthy.
Edited by PoopyGonzales (05/03/11 03:18 AM)
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Re: Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus) [Re: PoopyGonzales]
#14393988 - 05/03/11 11:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You can generally buy them at a well stocked nursery or gardening specialty store.
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Re: Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus) [Re: PoopyGonzales]
#14394292 - 05/03/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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are you growing it in hydro?
ydro causes problems that are often only solved by adding more chems. i dislike that method, but thats me.
psychotria do well in good soil. fix the soil, and pests are minimal. psychotria will always attract mealy and the like, no prvnting that and i personally feel tehre is an acceptable allowance for some. when the plant gets bigg and hard hosing gets rid of enough.
if it were mea i would ditch the hydro, or the top layer orf rock if its jsut for looks, and pot it up into a loose potting soil. once it has taken and shows some growth, maybe 2 weeks later, add some well composted compost on top. add some organic shit pellets if you like. i do. and it should do fine.
good soil eliminates far more issues than adding pesticides, even "natural" ones.
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Re: Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus) [Re: kadakuda]
#14394933 - 05/03/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah its in hydro because it wont like the winter and will freeze to death, and was going to move it outside once it gets warmer, dont know if i can plant it in the ground because i may have to bring it in again every winter, it can get up to -7 Celsius here....
do psychotria get rootbound easy? how often should i change its pot/ whats a good indicator for them becoming rootbound?
im starting to think i should either build an outdoor greenhouse or grow something that likes the cold a little more.
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Re: Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus) [Re: PoopyGonzales]
#14398243 - 05/04/11 03:38 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I tried to grow a Psychotria Viridis down here in Melbs a couple of years ago and it was a contant hassle. Like yours it was constantly covered in pests, in my case it was scale insects. I found the most effective method of treating the scale was just physically scraping them off with a knife.
The ants you are seeing are harmless to the plant. Like other ppl have said they will just be there to collect the sugary excretions left behind by the aphids or scale you have.
To be honest I think trying to grow psychotria outside of a tropical climate will always be problematic. In the end I got sick of my P.viridis and just let it die off, nothing I could to could keep it happy, it just didnt like the climate; cold temperature etc.
If you plan to persist, an effective chemical for fucking up a wide range of pests is Confidor. I use that as a last resort for scale, aphids, root borer etc. Just remember to check out the MSDS. I think the withholding period is acouple of weeks (i.e. it takes a couple of weeks for the chemical to get out of the plant so dont chew any leaves before then lol).
Good luck
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Re: Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus) [Re: psyke101]
#14398278 - 05/04/11 03:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here's what I use after some very very credible info on the perfect natural insect repellant with no knock-down, I have used this on everything from herbs, to Salvia to MJ. Here's what I was told:
- Nicotine - Chilli - Palmolive (dishwashing liquid)
I use a handful of ciggy butts, a tiny squirt of Palmolive and about 3 chilli's [Jalapeno's or Habeneros, the hotness doesn't matter] all put in to a bottle with boiling water. Let that sit overnight then strain it all through a coffee plunger [otherwise if you try to spray this you're going to clog up your sprayer]. The palmolive breaks the surface tension & kills Aphids, allowing the chilli and Nicotine to kill the bugs. EASY.
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Re: Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus) [Re: psyke101]
#14400121 - 05/04/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
psyke101 said: To be honest I think trying to grow psychotria outside of a tropical climate will always be problematic. In the end I got sick of my P.viridis and just let it die off, nothing I could to could keep it happy, it just didnt like the climate; cold temperature etc. Good luck
They grow in north GA no problem. Just keep them inside in the winter and spray them a bunch. I gave a couple to two different friends there with not much of a green thumb even and theirs have flowered even. Mine only died because I had to move to an alpine desert. This would be problematic. Even then, it only died because the cabin got down to below freezing. The cabin was wood heat, no one came home that night, it was routinely -15F so you get the idea.
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Re: Help with pests (Psycotria Nexus) [Re: mr_minds_eye]
#14409440 - 05/06/11 10:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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well, if your cold and prone to pests then maybe try growing P. alba instead...its plenty active and real hardy.
if it were me i would switch away from hydro. first step in getting healthy pest resistant plants is great soil. hydro, i personally feel, is not good enough. its fine for annual crops, but not long term.
any system that relies heavily on pest chemicals to kill them, is seriously flawed.
if your dead set on hydro, take some leaf cuts and try in soil that has some perlite like substance and compost in it. see how it works in your situation. growing in post outdoors and bringing indoors is fine. i haev not grown nexus, but have grown its parent species and find them ok in pots. they are -ok- a little rootbound. you can always cut the stems right down then root prune later and downsize pots as well.
this is one of the few "ethnos" that do very well potted i find. and worst case scenario take cuttings when the mom gets way too large, and start anew.
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