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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: eris]
    #14380244 - 04/30/11 11:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

but then I wont be called a nazi, fascist and other delightful names

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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14380269 - 04/30/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i guess the sturdy table thing is more of a midwestern thing:dointhangs:

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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Konyap]
    #14380276 - 04/30/11 11:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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aiyobro said:
always keep the windows open go in a bathtub, under a sturdy wood table or in a celler




The myth about opening windows has recently been disproven. It only invites more debris into your home.

But yes, find the (ideally) northeastern most part of your house with no windows that is strong. Shield yourself with a mattress, thick pillows. A bathroom is usually good as it is anchored with plumbing.

Of course what they don't tell you is if the tornado is an F5 or EF5+ under the new classification, it won't matter.

Because it will sweep your house off it's foundation into the blender.

In that case, be under ground or be IN the ground. Permanently.


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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: zorbman]
    #14380285 - 04/30/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why northeastern? What if you don't have a compass with you :omg:


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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Shroomerette]
    #14380293 - 04/30/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Because most tornadoes approach from the southwest, moving NE.


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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14380323 - 04/30/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:shocked:

Glad you're okay! :inlove:


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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14380346 - 04/30/11 11:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:
Ultra gheyness.


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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: kirilan]
    #14380347 - 04/30/11 11:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

so the tornada would selectivily pull things apart rather then compromising your position all at once eh?

and im white so climate change is definantly a factor

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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Konyap]
    #14380371 - 04/30/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

aiyobro said:
i guess the sturdy table thing is more of a midwestern thing:dointhangs:





I compare it to hiding under a picnic blanket to survive a nuclear blast


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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14380389 - 04/30/11 11:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

actually you should you could be blinded from the light and the radiation will give your ass a mean tan so its better to face away, clothes like cotton wont protect you either you gotta be on your g mode in something like silk to really get away as well as hiding behind something solid

it could save you a lot of time!

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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: zorbman]
    #14380487 - 05/01/11 12:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The myth about opening windows has recently been disproven. It only invites more debris into your home.





I'm not sure if you're aware of it but in a tornado, if debris wants in,
it's getting in and it's not going to knock at the front door

this is wheat straw embedded in a tree because of the velocity it was
hurled, I've seen it with pine straw, metal and all kinds of other crap
over the years. a little glass isnt offering an protection at all











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But yes, find the (ideally) northeastern most part of your house with no windows that is strong. Shield yourself with a mattress, thick pillows. A bathroom is usually good as it is anchored with plumbing





that's a myth, a tub is anchored with nails to a wall or three, modern
plumbing is plastic and the old iron with lead and oakum isnt actually
joined, it's just sealed and can be broken loose easily with a hammer

and regardless of how it's anchored, nothing stop is when the house goes


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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14380492 - 05/01/11 12:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Exactly. A tornado powerful enough to generate low pressure strong enough to 'plode a house is also strong enough that it isn't going to respect the other structures of the house. You'll have holes everywhere.

Which is why opening windows to "equalize pressure" is a myth. Don't waste your time.

Get underground if you have that option.

An F5 will sweep a house right off its foundation.

But if you don't have that option, the points I outlined stand. You do what you can do.

And opening your windows is just silly.


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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: zorbman]
    #14380609 - 05/01/11 12:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

zorbman said:
An F5 will sweep a house right off its foundation.





so will an F3 and F4, I'm seeing the evidence of that every day now


Quote:

And opening your windows is just silly.





the myth claims it's about equalizing pressure inside the house, it's not
and it's slightly foolish, it's about the windload, you have shear and
lateral, uplift and a vacancy on the back side, the shear forces pushing
against the house causes the air to push over, the vacancy on the leeward
side gives the uplift which is what often pulls a roof off in high winds
because the air rushing over tries to fill that low pressure area, or
deflects from the ground and pushes upward, opening the windows reduces
the load only marginally but allows some of that air to pass through and
fill the low pressure area reducing the uplift on the back side but still
comes at the risk of losing your roof because of an overpressure inside
the home so is it foolish t open the windows... somewhat but not when it's
95F inside your house because there's no power

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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14380617 - 05/01/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm glad you ok man. Now ban someone before shit gets to comfortable.

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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Kada]
    #14380633 - 05/01/11 12:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Kada said:
I'm glad you ok man. Now ban someone before shit gets to comfortable.

***************Not me for the love of the godz************************





lol... I've already banned a half dozen people... have you not noticed


I guess I'm losing my touch

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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14380641 - 05/01/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I thought I locked this piece of shit thread. What is it still doing active!?


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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14380646 - 05/01/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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so will an F3 and F4, I'm seeing the evidence of that every day now




An F4 can take a home off it's foundation but not an F3 according to the guidelines:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujita_scale

If one did so that would have to be a very weak structure.

F3: Roofs and some walls torn off well-constructed houses;

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the myth claims it's about equalizing pressure inside the house, it's not
and it's slightly foolish, it's about the windload, you have shear and
lateral, uplift and a vacancy on the back side, the shear forces pushing
against the house causes the air to push over, the vacancy on the leeward
side gives the uplift which is what often pulls a roof off in high winds
because the air rushing over tries to fill that low pressure area, or
deflects from the ground and pushes upward, opening the windows reduces
the load only marginally but allows some of that air to pass through and
fill the low pressure area reducing the uplift on the back side but still
comes at the risk of losing your roof because of an overpressure inside
the home so is it foolish t open the windows... somewhat but not when it's
95F inside your house because there's no power




:lol: ok right


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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: zorbman]
    #14380970 - 05/01/11 02:00 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

zorbman said:
Quote:

so will an F3 and F4, I'm seeing the evidence of that every day now




An F4 can take a home off it's foundation but not an F3 according to the guidelines:





I thought we already clarified that the scale is more of a general guideline
and not cold hard fact, tornadoes rarely read the manual and frequently dont
know how they're supposed to behave

remember, certified F1 tornadoes that have taken down homes

http://mcc.sws.uiuc.edu/climate_midwest/historical/oct24srvwx/oct2401svrwx.htm

Figure 9.  F1 tornado damage in northwest Champaign

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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14380981 - 05/01/11 02:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Mother Nature knows not to fuck with pris. :blewmeanie:

Glad you're okay, man. :kenthumbup:

First W_S, then you? What's with all the Shroomery staff getting into these close calls?

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Re: Unexplained Disappearance [Re: sunset_mission]
    #14380985 - 05/01/11 02:03 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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sunset_mission said:
First W_S, then you? What's with all the Shroomery staff getting into these close calls?





I believe it to be a plot by Fauxter


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