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Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar'
    #14379102 - 04/30/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"I just want you to know that we are working on it," Barack Obama reportedly told Sarah Brady regarding gun control. "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."



Up to this point importers have been able to replace "non-sporting" features like higher capacity magazines, folding stocks and pistol-grips with more traditionally sporting style options. They have also simply removed superfluous items such as compensators, barrel shrouds and bayonet lugs.

Under the guidelines set forth in the ATF "study," such cosmetic changes will no longer suffice. Importers will have to prove that these guns are actually, commonly used for sports ATF recognizes. The very popular 3-Gun and tactical shotgun competitions of the U.S. Practical Shooting Association, International Defensive Pistol Association and International Practical Shooting Confederation are specifically mentioned in the ATF study and dismissed as not being recognized sports because previous ATF rifle and handgun importability studies have not recognized these sports as sports. So preferred equipment for these very popular and rapidly growing international sports will be blocked from importation because ATF has not previously recognized them as sports, and they are not going to recognize them now because they have not previously recognized them. It is the logic of a merry-go-round.



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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: joe666]
    #14379110 - 04/30/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Old news, but worth repeating.

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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: Yacub]
    #14379127 - 04/30/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

We need get him out of there asap!

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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: teknix]
    #14379140 - 04/30/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ron Paul = Last Hope.


Anyone else will be business as usual.

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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: teknix]
    #14379150 - 04/30/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not worried.  The NRA has way too strong of a lobby with the republican base for any measure to pass that would seriously inhibit our gun rights.  I've watched time and again ballots go up that would seek to restrict gun rights only to be shot down.

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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: Yacub]
    #14379156 - 04/30/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Im thinking that the original intent of the second amendment had nothing to do with "Sports". But rather, providing a means for the people to protect themselves against an oppresive government.

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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14379169 - 04/30/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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wildernessjunkie said:
Im thinking that the original intent of the second amendment had nothing to do with "Sports". But rather, providing a means for the people to protect themselves against an oppresive government.




:thumbup:

That's our job.

(Hopefully it never comes to that)

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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14379212 - 04/30/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

wildernessjunkie said:
Im thinking that the original intent of the second amendment had nothing to do with "Sports". But rather, providing a means for the people to protect themselves against an oppresive government.



It was in large part due to the desire to avoid having a standing army.  The idea was that states would form their own militias which could fend off a foreign invasion without having to have a standing army that would be used for foreign intervention.  Kind of like what Switzerland has today.


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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: joe666]
    #14379220 - 04/30/11 07:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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joe666 said:
Barack Obama reportedly told Sarah Brady




Sez who?


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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: Doc_T]
    #14379234 - 04/30/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This interesting bit of news was reported in an April 11 Washington Post Lifestyle section story about Obama's gun-control and regulatory policy wonk Steve Croley. Toward the end of the article the writer, Jason Horowitz, mentions a March 30 meeting between Jim and Sarah Brady and White House Press Secretary Jay Carney during which the President "dropped in."

Horowitz quotes Sarah Brady relating how President Obama gave his personal assurance that he and his administration were working hard on a gun-control agenda. Brady reported that Obama then told them about advancing the agenda "under the radar."

Apparently Mrs. Brady either doesn't grasp the concept of "under the radar," or, more likely, she expected the reporter to be discreet and keep the "good news" about Obama's stealth operations to himself. Thankfully this reporter chose to report the news, so we have direct corroboration of Obama's sneak-attack against the Second Amendment.


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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: joe666]
    #14379240 - 04/30/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Cool.

Obama can't touch the Second Amendment though. I hope he learned that when he was in law school.


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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: joe666]
    #14379241 - 04/30/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Don't worry, Joe.  You're in no danger of Obama keeping promises to his base.


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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: joe666]
    #14379253 - 04/30/11 07:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I was about to call you out on your referencing as well, but you stopped that in a hurry.  But yeah the gov would jizz their pants if they were able to take everyone's guns.  It'll continue to be small crackdowns one after the other until....

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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: Doc_T]
    #14379255 - 04/30/11 07:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I remember reading a story:

After WW2 a prominent Japanese General was interviewed. One of the questions asked was, what plans were in place for a Japanese invasion of the mainland US. His response was, that there was never a plan for that. They knew that because such a high number of the citizens were armed, that there was no way they could succeed with such a venture.

On a side note though. I think that properly placed shots from "sporting" weapons, are a far, far more effective defense than some full auto, high capacity magazine firearm, with muzzlebreaks, suppressors, and all the other needless BS attached.

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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: Silversoul]
    #14379256 - 04/30/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would be pissed at him if I had voted for him and drank the kool-aid.
sure glad I didn't.


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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: joe666]
    #14379258 - 04/30/11 07:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'd be pissed if anybody who thinks the President can overturn gun rights is allowed to vote. :crankey:


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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: joe666]
    #14379259 - 04/30/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



darn govurnmeant tryin' take mah guns. aint gonna let that happen.


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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: joe666]
    #14379264 - 04/30/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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I would be pissed at him if I had voted for him and drank the kool-aid.
sure glad I didn't.




Who did you vote for?

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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: athedrivein61]
    #14379285 - 04/30/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

the guy that lost.


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Re: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' [Re: Silversoul]
    #14379294 - 04/30/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Im thinking that the original intent of the second amendment had nothing to do with "Sports". But rather, providing a means for the people to protect themselves against an oppresive government.



It was in large part due to the desire to avoid having a standing army.  The idea was that states would form their own militias which could fend off a foreign invasion without having to have a standing army that would be used for foreign intervention.  Kind of like what Switzerland has today.





The government and media frown on and will only show negetive press to ANY independent miltia. When is the last time you heard a positive militia story on the news? Now granted, these orgs. usually attract the exact wrong kind of people to begin with, but a bunch of people meeting with guns, and bitching about the government is bound to eventually go the wrong direction.

Now the argument has been made that the National Guard was the original intent behind a state militia. The problem with that is, the NG is still under federal command. "Officially" they are governed by the state. At least until their units rotation to be deployed comes around. Then they get shipped off just like regular military. To me this all ultimately means, federal control.

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