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ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. 1
#14378947 - 04/30/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was having a shower, and as I reached forward to grab the soap, I noticed a mushroom growing from the soil of a pot plant. Upon closer inspection I noticed that there was one mature specimen, 2 pins and another almost mature specimen.
I am located in Tasmania, Australia; but I can't be sure of where the plant or soil which this mushroom is growing from originated.
Here is the plant:
And the mushrooms...
I'm hoping these pictures are sufficient enough to get an accurate ID, but if not I can pick the larger one, get better pictures and take a spore print.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14378969 - 04/30/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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... The last pic has basal mycelium that looks like ovoids .... Best bathroom shrooms ever. Do they bruise blue?
Ovoids in Aussie territory! Wtf?
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14378970 - 04/30/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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that looks quite cool bro try n do that with the large one [ pick it - take pics and specially of the underside of cap - and make a print with the cap!! AND take a pic as the stems dry
Hope you come back with some more pics
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: sporeRider]
#14378980 - 04/30/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Will do. From looking at the underside of the cap the spores appear to be black. Is that a good sign? Will take a print now and post back later.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14378984 - 04/30/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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let us kno whats up man and be sure n photograph with macro mode - and take a BUNCH of pics - -- - - -
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: sporeRider]
#14378991 - 04/30/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would be putting my money on Psilocybe Subaeruginosa, but thats from only looking at those pics.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: aussieshroom]
#14379016 - 04/30/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sweet fucking deal man! Some people have all the luck. this makes it like the 3rd or 4th psilocybe growing in a potted plant in just the last couple of weeks.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: aussieshroom]
#14379019 - 04/30/11 06:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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aussieshroom said: I would be putting my money on Psilocybe Subaeruginosa, but thats from only looking at those pics.
That was my initial thought as well, but after a closer look it didn't seem to resemble any of the subs I've found before.
More pics:
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14379030 - 04/30/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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so the wait on the print continues!!! Thanks a bunch for posting back up so quickly Can't notice much more pointing to psilocybe from the new pics tho- DAMN - but please keep us posted on how things and the print go - and watch for blue ( bright blue ) bruising on the cap and stem
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14379031 - 04/30/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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aussieshroom said: I would be putting my money on Psilocybe Subaeruginosa, but thats from only looking at those pics.
That was my initial thought as well, but after a closer look it didn't seem to resemble any of the subs I've found before.
More pics:
I'm going to laugh so hard if you found a sub growing in your bathroom.. Probably isn't though. I don't see bruising & it looks a little off, but that could be coz it grew in your bathroom and not outside.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: ouijah]
#14379040 - 04/30/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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notice the toothed gill edge in the first new pic ( closup of gills )
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14379045 - 04/30/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can't notice any bluing either, but I'll give it a bit more time and wait for the spore print also.
Any ideas to what it may be if it is not a Psilocybe species?
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14379082 - 04/30/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Deconica species?
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: CubeBensies]
#14379100 - 04/30/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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how did that get into your plant in the first place? I've never heard of any mushroom growing in an indoor potted plant.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: CubeBensies]
#14379109 - 04/30/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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CubeBensies said: Deconica species?
Possibly, lets just wait for the print
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Fnappy J]
#14379124 - 04/30/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fnappy J said: how did that get into your plant in the first place? I've never heard of any mushroom growing in an indoor potted plant.
No idea... those plants have been in my bathroom for years and this is the first time i have noticed mushrooms growing from the soil.
Is it possible there may have been mushroom spores in the tap water that was used to water these plants?
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14379175 - 04/30/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ben1234 said: Is it possible there may have been mushroom spores in the tap water that was used to water these plants?
Hmmm I doubt it... do you use a rain water tank?
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: ouijah]
#14379184 - 04/30/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ouijah said: Hmmm I doubt it... do you use a rain water tank?
No, just regular tap water, so I guess that rules out that theory.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14379206 - 04/30/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You probably carried spores in from your clothes or something. There are billions of spores in the air as well. Could be a number a different ways for this to happen. I think I'd be happy if I found some in one of my plants.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14379420 - 04/30/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That could be Psilocybe moravica.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14379444 - 04/30/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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looks like it has a viscid pellicle?
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Here are updated pics with vague spore print visible.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14380556 - 05/01/11 12:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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My god...
actives growing in your bathroom
congrats
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14380581 - 05/01/11 12:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: That could be Psilocybe moravica.
If I'm not mistaken, Psilocybe moravica was recently shown to be the same as Psilocybe serbica via genetic comparisons (and the name Ps serbica will have precedence.)
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: groople]
#14380730 - 05/01/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pretty damn cool.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: bloodworm]
#14380954 - 05/01/11 01:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is it definitely a psilocybe? Or is more information needed?
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14381025 - 05/01/11 02:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is there blue bruising? What colour is the print? Hard to tell what colour that print is, seeing as its done on white paper and the picture doesn't show the white as white. And i cant tell if that's black or blue bruising... photo colour again.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: ouijah]
#14381066 - 05/01/11 02:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those ends look pretty blue. Nice find!
Could putting chunks of myc into potting soil (coir based) produce fruits at the right time and be beneficial to the plant?
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: ouijah]
#14381072 - 05/01/11 02:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bruising is present, but I can not tell if it is black or dark blue. Hopefully tomorrow's weather is good and I take it outside and get some clearer pictures in the sunlight.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14381074 - 05/01/11 02:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looks blue to me
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: mrckb]
#14381082 - 05/01/11 02:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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mrckb said: Looks blue to me
I hope it is.
After looking at pictures on the internet, it does look a lot like Psilocybe Moravica
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14381545 - 05/01/11 07:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14381772 - 05/01/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ben1234 said: Here are updated pics with vague spore print visible.
That's blue to me
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14381829 - 05/01/11 09:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's awesome They definitely resemble the P. moravica that inski finds in his pot plants.
It's amazing what pops up in potted plants sometimes. I wish something would grow with my maidenhairs!
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: TimmiT]
#14381850 - 05/01/11 09:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Man.. with all the active finds on here from potted plants, it makes me wonder how many people find actives in potted plants and don't even know/don't report it.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14381970 - 05/01/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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man you guys ALWAYS find wicked rare majik like that in your potted plants somehow we gotta start trading dirt and plants back n forth!!!! Damn that kinda find makes one jealous
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Fnappy J]
#14382071 - 05/01/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fnappy J said: how did that get into your plant in the first place? I've never heard of any mushroom growing in an indoor potted plant.
It's very common. Especially leucocoprinus birnbaumii frequenty grows in indoor potted plants, but in more humid and warm locations, active psilocybe species are reported once in a while as well. Check inski's posts; he has documented a large number of active specimens growing from potting soil.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: TimmiT]
#14383611 - 05/01/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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TimmiT said: That's awesome They definitely resemble the P. moravica that inski finds in his pot plants.
It's amazing what pops up in potted plants sometimes. I wish something would grow with my maidenhairs!
I'll post the spore print picture later on today to hopefully confirm it is Psilocybe Moravica. Is there anything I can do to ensure more will grow back? Or am I better off just leaving it as it is?
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14383825 - 05/01/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The stem on the bigger specimen left in the pot plant had gone quite flimsy this morning when I checked it, and it appeared to be drying out. I picked it and left the other two pins.
Here are some updated pics. The stem is showing a lot more bruising now, the cap has also began to change colour and I have a spore print that should hopefully do the job.
Look what I missed! Only found it after seeing it in the background of this picture!
Black cap, obvious blue bruising.... Another different species of psilocybe or possibly just an aged Moravica?
Edited by Nevermind (05/01/11 05:42 PM)
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14386243 - 05/02/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Interesting, it looks quite similar to one of the undescribed species from NZ, I hope I haven't caused any confusion by calling my collections Psilocybe moravica, it is very closely related to that species which is now known as P. serbica var. moravica but there are some significant macroscopic and microscopic differences which Jan Borovička has pointed out to me, it best fits into Section Semilanceatae due to the thick walled subellipsoid spores and lack of pleurocystidia.
This collection needs a thorough examination on the macroscopic and microscopic levels to determine what species it is if it is a described one or to determine what Section it best fits into to compare it to other related species.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14386850 - 05/02/11 04:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow awesome find, are you the same guy who found them in his backyard last year as well? Talk about luck!
Just to add about Psilocybes growing in potted plants, ive also found a couple of subs growing from potted plants in a nursery nearby. They were definitely subs though, so not as interesting as this. Nice work!
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: johnny_peyote]
#14386883 - 05/02/11 04:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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johnny_peyote said: Wow awesome find, are you the same guy who found them in his backyard last year as well? Talk about luck!
Ha, yes! That was me. And luckily they're growing in the same spot again this year!
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14387229 - 05/02/11 07:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im going to play devils advocate here, while i know what its like to find exotic mushrooms and the excitement it entails, i hate to do it but i would have to call a high probability on psilocybe subaeruginosa for these.
i have seen subs grown inside and there are definite similarities. when grown indoors they loose their normal characteristics and appear as very different mushrooms as a result of lack of free air exchange. the caps in particular are very different, with that small curved up appeareance.
(currently scouring my photo collection for the photos sent to me)
They also love growing out of potting mix, i had quite a few turn up in a few of my pots in the garden last winter. i thought it was hilarious.
Anyway, sorry....
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: obtuse]
#14387320 - 05/02/11 08:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah subs can vary in appearance massively from patch to patch too. The way those pins look though, so much different to any sub pin ive seen before. Who knows, microscopy would give you a much better answer.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: johnny_peyote]
#14387372 - 05/02/11 08:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Either way, very cool find.
I've seen Leucocoprinus in potted plants, but no Psilocybes. Yet.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Doc_T]
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I'm still interested to find out exactly what these are. I have all 4 specimens completely dried and I'm wondering if it's still possible to get a positive ID from looking at them under a microscope. If there is anyone in Australia who would be interested in taking a look, please PM me and I would be happy to post the mushrooms to you.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14492808 - 05/22/11 05:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The pics are bad (my camera doesn't like my microscope), but here are the results from microscopy on these:
Spores: elipsiod to elongate-elipsoid with broad apical germ pore, thick walled, yellow-brown colour, avg 12 x 6 µm
Pleurocystidia: none observed
Cheilocystidia: abundant, hyaline, lageniform to narrowly lageniform, avg 29 x 6 µm
Conclusions: They belong in Psilocybe section Semilanceatae. It seems likely that these are the same species as the undescribed ones that inski has found in potted plants. Hopefully he can comment on how well they compare.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: TimmiT]
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Thanks to TimmiT for taking the time to look at these. I'm hoping someone will now be able to positively ID this species.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#14528678 - 05/28/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Found two pins popping up today. Very small but hopefully they will mature and I can get some spore prints.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
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Collections of subaeruginosa from nearly every location in Australia other than South Australia have those exact microscopic characteristics - clear 'bowling pin' lageniform c.cystidia. what you have there is classic subaeruginosa.
Johnson and Buchanan did the best work on this group - previous lechotype descriptions were poor and some were even made on macroscopic characteristics alone.
Another distinct characteristic of subaeruginosa is grey flecking on the stipe. You dont see this in many US continental lignious Psilocybes.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Zen Peddler]
#20098564 - 06/08/14 01:17 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd be very interested to hear what others have to say about this. I do not believe it's a sub. I'm confident TimmiT knows what he's talking about and that he provided true and accurate information.
Like I said though, I'm interested to see what others think in regards to what you've said.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
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That is fine - but all recent and accurate descriptions of the microscopic features of subaeruginosa have clear bowling pin cystidia - those from WA, those from NSW, those from Tasmania and Victoria. South Australia has some unusual microscopic and macroscopic features.
Still one of the amazing features of subaeruginosa is that despite it haveing a number of quite different macroscopic phenotypes its microscopic features are nearly always identical.
Timmit's photos are quite clear - those cystidia are classic subaeruginosa. Im sure Inski or Workman can confirm this.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Zen Peddler]
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I don't think Psilocybe subaeruginosa can be ruled out from the microscopy. The lack of pleurocystidia means that this find keys out in Guzman's monograph to sect semilanceata, but the fact that I didn't observe any isn't necessarily a confirmation of their absence.
I will have to find my notes to see the actual measurements, but the cheilocystidia width averaging 6µm suggests that the range of widths falls below the published ranges for P. subaeruginosa (Johnston & Buchanan = 6.5-10µm, Guzman = 5.5-11µm and Chang & Mills = 5.5-16.7µm).
When I have some free time I will have another look to see if I can find any pleurocystidia and make some more measurements.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: TimmiT]
#20101852 - 06/08/14 07:06 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Interesting... obviously I don't know about any of this microscopy stuff, so I can't comment.
Would be very interested to know if it was a sub....
I'd sent a print to Captain Future, but he wasn't able to successfully fruit it. Also sent a sample to another person inside Australia who did the basic "sub butt" tek, who also failed with fruits.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#20102659 - 06/08/14 10:48 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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The mushroom is subaeruginosa. I can tell you that with 100% certainty. If I still had my website I could send you numerous identical cystidial forms.
that is of course if you believe that mushrooms van be broken into species based on minute phenotypical shape variations on microscopic structures like Guzman did.
The subaeruginosa group actually demonstrate this point - phenotypes of the same mushroom broken up based on phenotype incorrectly.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Zen Peddler]
#20102664 - 06/08/14 10:50 PM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry just ramblin' lol
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Zen Peddler]
#20103120 - 06/09/14 01:14 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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obtuse said: Im going to play devils advocate here, while i know what its like to find exotic mushrooms and the excitement it entails, i hate to do it but i would have to call a high probability on psilocybe subaeruginosa for these.
i have seen subs grown inside and there are definite similarities. when grown indoors they loose their normal characteristics and appear as very different mushrooms as a result of lack of free air exchange. the caps in particular are very different, with that small curved up appeareance.
(currently scouring my photo collection for the photos sent to me)
They also love growing out of potting mix, i had quite a few turn up in a few of my pots in the garden last winter. i thought it was hilarious.
Anyway, sorry....
Cheers, Obtuse.
It was like my first indoor ovoids, insufficient lighting inside causes some weird uncharacteristic shapes.Quote:
bluemeanie said: Collections of subaeruginosa from nearly every location in Australia other than South Australia have those exact microscopic characteristics - clear 'bowling pin' lageniform c.cystidia. what you have there is classic subaeruginosa.
Johnson and Buchanan did the best work on this group - previous lechotype descriptions were poor and some were even made on macroscopic characteristics alone.
Another distinct characteristic of subaeruginosa is grey flecking on the stipe. You dont see this in many US continental lignious Psilocybes.
Grey flecking eh? I will need that to distinguish my allenii from my subaeruginosa since my patches collided this summer!
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So it's just lack of lighting/nutrients that has made the appearance so different? I found an outdoor sub a few days ago which was similar to this one, and again it was in an area with very little direct light.
Probably explains why Captain Future had no luck growing, as we were under the impression it was a different species.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#20103341 - 06/09/14 02:00 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nevermind said: So it's just lack of lighting/nutrients that has made the appearance so different? I found an outdoor sub a few days ago which was similar to this one, and again it was in an area with very little direct light.
Probably explains why Captain Future had no luck growing, as we were under the impression it was a different species.
id say lack of airflow, and nutrients. not so sure about lighting, i would think perhaps lack of warmth. i know of patches where too much sunlight dries it out, and when it gets to a point where it has more shade it starts to fruit. its that fine balance between too much and too little light.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: obtuse]
#20103366 - 06/09/14 02:14 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks like you were right all along... you had your doubts from the beginning, and it now seems as though you had good reason.
Sorry for not listening to you earlier, but it was very exciting to think I'd found something new, so naturally I didn't want to think of it as just another sub... and to be fair, it really didn't look like any sub I'd ever seen and it seems as though it fooled a lot of other people to.
If TimmiT does get around to reviewing his notes we might find out something new... but I think the general consensus at the moment is P. subaeruginosa.
There's a part of me that still hopes it is something different... but I think realistically with this new information it is most likely a sub.
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: Nevermind]
#20103445 - 06/09/14 03:09 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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Absolutely Amazing
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Re: ID Needed for mushroom growing in bathroom. [Re: TheShroomNinja]
#20103955 - 06/09/14 07:49 AM (9 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think it is really really cool that you had one come up in your bathroom. that is like gold man
if i were you id be asking if others were interested in investigating that as a potentially interesting (and i hate the word) "strain". subs that grow by themselves indoors may be of great interest to others out there. and by the sounds of it maybe spores have landed in other unlikely spots and taken. it may turn out to be highly aggressive and happy to colonise a variety of substrates, but only investigation can further determine that.
perhaps i should have made that point earlier (wow, that was three years ago), i guess i was in a different place.
Edited by obtuse (06/09/14 07:50 AM)
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