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Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread * 3
    #14378420 - 04/30/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ron Paul is tied with Donald Trump right now as the Republican Nominee as the President Elect
I think Ron Paul has more fans than any other Republican
Wouldn't it be amazing if in November 2012 we got to chose between Obama and Paul for Presidency?
Do You think Ron Paul can win nomination for the Republican Party>
You may choose only one


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Coaster]
    #14378651 - 04/30/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Im not really following the 'race' at all but tying with trump seems like a good thing. Considering trump seems to be the sara palin of 2012 and that got her pretty far last time.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Coaster]
    #14378672 - 04/30/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Aside from legalization and foreign policy, there's not a lot I agree with Ron Paul about.  At the same time, though, I think having him in the race can help focus the race on real issues rather than the race-baiting trolling that Trump is engaged in.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Coaster]
    #14378683 - 04/30/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Its a shame your presidents are financed into power not elected.

Ron Paul seems like Americas last hope from me looking across the big pond here.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Silversoul]
    #14378684 - 04/30/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

One thing I like about Ron Paul is that he is one of the very, very few politicians who isn't full of shit and he seems to honestly care about people.

Only thing I don't agree with him on is abortion.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: amilibertine] * 1
    #14378698 - 04/30/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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One thing I like about Ron Paul is that he is one of the very, very few politicians who isn't full of shit and he seems to honestly care about people.



"Honestly caring about people" is a bit vague, and his economic policies would have a very negative effect on the working class.  However, I will grant that he cares deeply about his principles, no matter how flawed they might be.  One thing that has to be said about him is that the guy can't be bought.  He believes what he believes and he'll stick to it come hell or high water.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: amilibertine]
    #14378774 - 04/30/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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amilibertine said:
One thing I like about Ron Paul is that he is one of the very, very few politicians who isn't full of shit and he seems to honestly care about people.

Only thing I don't agree with him on is abortion.




You dont agree with giving states the power for abortion laws? Paul has said that HE PERSONALLY is against abortion, but if he was in power he would let the states decide.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14378782 - 04/30/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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amilibertine said:
One thing I like about Ron Paul is that he is one of the very, very few politicians who isn't full of shit and he seems to honestly care about people.

Only thing I don't agree with him on is abortion.




You dont agree with giving states the power for abortion laws? Paul has said that HE PERSONALLY is against abortion, but if he was in power he would let the states decide.



ya its not that hard to drive to another state for an abortion


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Coaster]
    #14378817 - 04/30/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah! Ron Paul!


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14378819 - 04/30/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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You dont agree with giving states the power for abortion laws?



I sure don't.  It's a matter of individual liberty, not a matter of the states' ability to tell women what they can do with their bodies.  It amazes me how many so-called libertarians think "state rights" trump individual rights.  Isn't that just another form of collectivism?


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Silversoul]
    #14378845 - 04/30/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)


goooo ron paulllll


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14378891 - 04/30/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

if Ron Paul actually got nominated that would be :Awemazing:


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: skatealex2]
    #14383288 - 05/01/11 03:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

He has a clear shot at the nomination. He is tied with Trump and everyday Trump's popularity diminishes as Paul's increases.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Coaster]
    #14383312 - 05/01/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Gary Johnson is another one that I would like to see make it to the finals.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14383351 - 05/01/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Gary Johnson is another one that I would like to see make it to the finals.




I wasn't aware he was running.  I've seen in him in American Drug War and maybe some other docus can't remember right now.  He for sure seems intelligent but also more conservative than Paul.  The sad fact is the media plays such a huge role I'm not sure if most Americans are educated/informed enough to make a decent decision.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Led Zeppelin]
    #14383368 - 05/01/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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amilibertine said:
One thing I like about Ron Paul is that he is one of the very, very few politicians who isn't full of shit and he seems to honestly care about people.



"Honestly caring about people" is a bit vague, and his economic policies would have a very negative effect on the working class.  However, I will grant that he cares deeply about his principles, no matter how flawed they might be.  One thing that has to be said about him is that the guy can't be bought.  He believes what he believes and he'll stick to it come hell or high water.




Explain how going back to the gold standard would be bad for the middle class.  I don't know if you've notice but our money is worthless and losing value by the second. 

"Honestly caring about people" isn't vague.  What I mean is that he consistently votes using the constitution as the supreme law of the land, unlike basically every other politician at the federal level. 

But whatever.  I didn't want to debate. 
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One thing I like about Ron Paul is that he is one of the very, very few politicians who isn't full of shit and he seems to honestly care about people.

Only thing I don't agree with him on is abortion.




You dont agree with giving states the power for abortion laws? Paul has said that HE PERSONALLY is against abortion, but if he was in power he would let the states decide.




No I think it's a non issue.  Abortion shouldn't be illegal at any level.  Prime example of why church and state should be further separated until there is no connection.  I don't give religious idiots the right to my body for any reason.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but from where I'm sitting all these right-wing neo-cons sound like they would be more at home in Saudi Arabia.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Coaster]
    #14383379 - 05/01/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Where does he stand on the other issues?
Gay marriage, taxes, abortions...


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: 28064212]
    #14383386 - 05/01/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

he wants the states to have the power to decide those things
he wants really low taxes though
almost no government at all


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: amilibertine]
    #14383417 - 05/01/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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  Abortion shouldn't be illegal at any level.  Prime example of why church and state should be further separated until there is no connection.  I don't give religious idiots the right to my body for any reason.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but from where I'm sitting all these right-wing neo-cons sound like they would be more at home in Saudi Arabia.




You have to see both sides man, I mean that is a life you're preventing from living.  Now don't flame me I'm not religious or nada, I'm just saying it is forsure a valid point.  Imo if you can take care of it then you have an obligation to have it as it was you that created it.  If you cannot care for it then it's probably unwise to bring it into this planet.  However I do agree it should not be illegal, as it is a personal decision, but giving the power to the states is always better than giving it to the federal gov.  ALWAYS


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Coaster]
    #14383427 - 05/01/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Who's this guy?


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: amilibertine]
    #14383439 - 05/01/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Explain how going back to the gold standard would be bad for the middle class.  I don't know if you've notice but our money is worthless and losing value by the second.



Our money is more valuable than just about any other currency except the pound and the Euro.  If you think your money is so worthless, I'll be glad to take it off your hands.

As for the gold standard, if you knew a little history or a little economics, you might understand.  In 1896, William Jennings Bryan led a presidential campaign specifically against the gold standard, which kept farmers and workers in debt, underpaid, and unemployed as a result of a tight money supply.  This was the inspiration for his famous "Cross of Gold" speech.  Under the gold standard, we had recessions every 2-3 years.  Under such tight money supply, employment is scarce, debt burdens are increased, and the value of people's assets are destroyed.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: 28064212]
    #14383440 - 05/01/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Where does he stand on the other issues?
Gay marriage, taxes, abortions...




He stands just to siphon votes from Paul,  :shrug:


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: Silversoul]
    #14383447 - 05/01/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Explain how going back to the gold standard would be bad for the middle class.  I don't know if you've notice but our money is worthless and losing value by the second.



Our money is more valuable than just about any other currency except the pound and the Euro.  If you think your money is so worthless, I'll be glad to take it off your hands.

As for the gold standard, if you knew a little history or a little economics, you might understand.  In 1896, William Jennings Bryan led a presidential campaign specifically against the gold standard, which kept farmers and workers in debt, underpaid, and unemployed as a result of a tight money supply.  This was the inspiration for his famous "Cross of Gold" speech.  Under the gold standard, we had recessions every 2-3 years.  Under such tight money supply, employment is scarce, debt burdens are increased, and the value of people's assets are destroyed.




Propaganda imo, where is the proof that a currency backed by commodity equates to a "recessions every 2-3 years"?


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread [Re: teknix]
    #14383450 - 05/01/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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amilibertine said:
Explain how going back to the gold standard would be bad for the middle class.  I don't know if you've notice but our money is worthless and losing value by the second.



Our money is more valuable than just about any other currency except the pound and the Euro.  If you think your money is so worthless, I'll be glad to take it off your hands.

As for the gold standard, if you knew a little history or a little economics, you might understand.  In 1896, William Jennings Bryan led a presidential campaign specifically against the gold standard, which kept farmers and workers in debt, underpaid, and unemployed as a result of a tight money supply.  This was the inspiration for his famous "Cross of Gold" speech.  Under the gold standard, we had recessions every 2-3 years.  Under such tight money supply, employment is scarce, debt burdens are increased, and the value of people's assets are destroyed.




Propaganda imo, where is the proof that a currency backed by commodity equates to a "recessions every 2-3 years"?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_recessions#Free_Banking_Era_to_the_Great_Depression


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    #14383606 - 05/01/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread (moved) [Re: Newbie]
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Zappadamn you, you evil bastard.  It isn't as if we don't have enough Paulbot threads here:facepalm:  Don't pass your Pubpollution here.


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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread (moved) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14383782 - 05/01/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Official Ron Paul 2012 Thread (moved) [Re: Coaster]
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