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Gorlax



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Getting Fucked!!! Help!
#14378078 - 04/30/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok. I am 19 years old a college student trying to earn my degree in biochemistry as of now I am clearly excelling. On the weekend I took a ride down from my campus to my friends moms where we always hang out. It was her 50th bday party and i got tanked somewhat. later in the night me and a few friends went on a walk, one of them brought a handle of Captain Morgan. I was walking telling them to be quiet or cops were gonna come because of noise complaint. As I have my head tilted one way i slowly move it over and notice a cop car, this motherfucker was sneaky. I knew we weere cornered, I quickly ate my weed no problem about a gram and then watched one of my drunk friends walk away. the cop approaches as another kid holding the handle goies ohh nice of you to join usss. well anyways I go rthrough the not admiting any guilt and of course he calls another cop their they ttry to pull a story together but none of us are giving a straight clear story to where we came from. after a while the cops began to get funny and were actually cool. I blew and the cop commnented wow thats impressive bro. and then to my amazement I was handed a tresspasing ticket for being at a park i didnt live by. I simply walked off. That is the background to the bullshit that is to come. i got 3rd tresspassing at a community park which usualy is a petty annoyance to any judge, the other kid who didn't go to jail that night with me got his just thrown away. so I go to my court date at what i believe to be 7:30 PM and the courts are closed!!! I am very concerned. I ask a cop who was present around the court what time this really meant considering the court wasn't even opened passed 5pm. He said that the cop must of meant AM. He told me to go to court the next day and show the judge. Tomorrow comes and let me tell you it was not a good day. I go to court and wait for a hour finally get my chance to talk to the judge. He starts blabbing about 30days in jail for tresspassing and that I was subsequently charged with failure to appear in court which is way worse then the tresspassing. I try to explain the ticket error and he doesnt even look! he says I am arranging a pretrial hearing where you can take it up with the prosecution.!!! I was amazed. the judge didnt even look. I tried to tell him that the cop wrote 730PM and thats when i appeared. he told me that it wasn't 7:30 but actually 2:30PM !~!!~ What is funny is that everyone i asked previous thought the cop mistakenly circled PM and not AM and not the idea that the ( 7 ) was actually a ( 2 ). He squashed my warrant and let me leave with a pretrial hearing in a month!! honestly I don't need this shit in my Life! this judge made me hate the system more than ever! please look at this ticket and tell me what time you see!!!!!
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: Gorlax]
#14378555 - 04/30/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol 3 trespassing violations man?
thats some bullshit, but that looks like good enough proof to me to get you out of this. show up and present that...case closed
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: Gorlax]
#14378567 - 04/30/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damn dude looks like a 7:30 to me, sorry about that 
I'd be pretty pissed if that happened to me too. Good luck with getting everything cleared up.
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By the way it might help if you know the name of the cop you spoke to at the courthouse at 7:30 and can get him to write a statement that you were there at least trying to appear in court. I don't really know though, I haven't had much involvement with the law.
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: Gorlax]
#14378680 - 04/30/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looks like 7:30 to me. But if you look at the date the cop is clearly a 7 crosser.
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Gorlax



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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: naum]
#14382448 - 05/01/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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3rd degree trespassing isn't like peeping through windows its like being at a park that you don't live by and so so. honestly I thought of asking that cop for a statement but he was already being cocky and stupid so I wasn't wasting time. This is enough information for dismissal i mean I am not suppose to have to have this analyzed to understand what time to appear in court. It should clearly be written and not chicken scratch when charges like this can be handed down to hard working tax paying motherfucking college student. god damn.
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: naum]
#14382466 - 05/01/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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naum said: Looks like 7:30 to me. But if you look at the date the cop is clearly a 7 crosser.
as for the seven crossed, look at his 2 next to it completely different then then suspected 2:30 one!! like wTF this cop had to of done this on purpose.??
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: Gorlax]
#14383463 - 05/01/11 04:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Get a public defender if you cant afford/don't have an attorney.
An attorney will tell that judge what's up.
Sounds like you didn't dress nice for court and the judge punk'd you.
An attorney could probley get it dismissed but you'll probley have to do some community service.
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I was dressed sharp as an ice pick. I was formal. I was normal, the man in front of me dressed like he got out of the gutter easily got a protective order. compared to everyone I was very prepared! this judge was unlawful and does not uphold the proper justice system.
I do not need a lawyer!! I will not pay a dime!! I have paid a lawyer once before and they can not do shit that i can't say. If I am prosecuted for this then god have mercy on this nation!!!
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: Gorlax]
#14385488 - 05/01/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You hope so. I don't think public defenders cost.
You were trespassing though. The original charge will most likely stick. The failure to appear will most likely get dropped.
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I have paid a lawyer once before and they can not do shit that i can't say.
huh? I think I know what you're trying say...but you're 19. A lawyer knows a lot more than you.
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: Gorlax]
#14385669 - 05/01/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I suspect that in certain courts looking too nice and speaking too well puts you at a slight disadvantage depending on the judge.
Best of luck, OP. Don't take the judge's behavior too personally. Everything should sort itself out if you hire a decent lawyer.
Edit: Anecdote served its purpose.
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: Gorlax]
#14386026 - 05/01/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gorlax said:
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naum said: Looks like 7:30 to me. But if you look at the date the cop is clearly a 7 crosser.
as for the seven crossed, look at his 2 next to it completely different then then suspected 2:30 one!! like wTF this cop had to of done this on purpose.??
They look identical to me, ones just a little bigger. I highly doubt the cop has bad handwriting on purpose. That's like the doctor crossing his 1's on purpose to slip you 6 free refills. Just egotistical people getting their job done quick.....
Hire a lawyer man. It'd be like 500 bucks depending on your state. They can say way more then you in court, and more importantly, know way more about the court in general. They are familiar with the judges and prosecution usually, and they also have been to court a hell of a lot more then one time and know what to expect from every angle.
You sound very stubborn and over dramatic here. It's not a huge issue, and judges just act like dicks for the purpose of fear typically. Just get a lawyer and put it in the back of your head, it's not unhealthy to let go and give in occasionally.
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I am not stubborn I just have bad previous lawyer issues you could say. I caught a case as a juvenile and it was serious almost extreme DUI at 17 anyways my lawyer would show up with his dumb folder and have no information or do any research of evidence at all I mean this guy was the definition of scum bag. He was very expensive and stole my families money which I had to pay back $5,000? This is why I am very queeezy when it comes to hiring a defender especially for a small offense. I am mainly concerned in this current topic with the idea that a mistake like this can actually take me to trial and that the judge did not even look at my ticket and played god better than Allah. I do not have the money for a lawyer, hiring a public defender would help push any prosecution to think of money/worth trial. I know being 19 that I have not nearly half the amount of knowledge as a seasoned lawyer. However in something of this matter I believe all I have to do is present my evidence at the pretrial hearing and that will in fact have the case dropped. Prosecuting me for trespassing isn't possible because I was my friends house and they belong to that community I have their support and the petty charge of trespassing will go "hopefully" on the other hand failure to appear without a doubt should be dropped if not we can all say that the system officially has failed.
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: Gorlax]
#14386433 - 05/02/11 01:09 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're right. You don't sound stubborn at all. Cheers!
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Thats a 7 theres no way they can charge you with failure to show up for court for that. Get a lawyer to help you if you can afford it. I bet the lawyer can get you dismissed completely because of this court date fuckup. Remember its their fuckup, not yours.
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: ampakine]
#14433152 - 05/11/11 02:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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No offence or anything but I've never heard of having a court time so late before....most take place from the morning to the mid afternoon lol, I guess if this was your first time ever having to go to court you wouldn't kno that
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: thodub]
#14434560 - 05/11/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: 4runner]
#14436095 - 05/11/11 05:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dude, for real, fork out the cash for a real lawyer. Public defenders are nothing more than message men that tell you how you will get fucked before you walk into the room. Seriouly I had 8 charges, 57k bail, one feloney charge, and was looking at 10 years. 3 grand got me a lawyer with a DA friend that agreed to one mistomenor with a 500$ fine and one year unsupervised probation. To top it all off I was already on probation at the time for other charges. The other DA he talked to would only come down from 10 years to 3 years. Talk about money well spent. In your case I think even a half assed lawyer would be able to get it thrown out. That is a 7 not a 2 so that should be easy to beat, as far as the actual charge, a good lawyer should be able to at least get it reduced if not thrown out. You are going to get fucked by the system one way or another. Pay a lawyer or face the charges on your on. Its going to cost money or jail time. Between my bail and paying the lawyer it cost me over 10k but that is a hell of a lot better than 10 years in jail. I don't know if you have ever been to jail but it sure as hell was worse than I expected. I was locked up in a room with 98 other people. Kinda hard to watch your back with that many people around. I'm not a social person but I made friends quick in jail. If you end up going I suggest you do the same. There were fights every day. Get in with some people that will watch your back and at least tell you what to watch out for. I was facing some serious charges though. I don't think you will end up getting locked up for your charges if you get a good lawyer. Mine was a bad ass, had his DA friend come in to agree to the deal and didn't even give the judge time to read over everything before he told the judge the deal had already been worked out. I used a free lawyer twice before and got thrown to the wolves both times. You will have to pay up one way or another.
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Re: Getting Fucked!!! Help! [Re: 402Camaro]
#14436348 - 05/11/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OP, get an attorney or you're going to go to jail for a long time...
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