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SpookerShroom
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Stroma? Contam? Normal growth? Shroomerite needs opinions [PICS] *DELETED*
#14377373 - 04/30/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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k00laid
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Re: Stroma? Contam? Normal growth? Shroomerite needs opinions [Re: SpookerShroom]
#14377391 - 04/30/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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its trying to pin.
needs more fresh air.
its not that your humidity is too high. its that your humid air is too stagnant.
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SpookerShroom
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Re: Stroma? Contam? Normal growth? Shroomerite needs opinions *DELETED* [Re: k00laid]
#14378212 - 04/30/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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mathias
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Re: Stroma? Contam? Normal growth? Shroomerite needs opinions [Re: SpookerShroom]
#14378522 - 04/30/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fan more, those trying to pin but not getting enough FAE to trigger differentiation in cap/stem cells.
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SpookerShroom
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Re: Stroma? Contam? Normal growth? Shroomerite needs opinions *DELETED* [Re: mathias]
#14383665 - 05/01/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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mathias
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Re: Stroma? Contam? Normal growth? Shroomerite needs opinions [Re: SpookerShroom]
#14384098 - 05/01/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mutants or odd growths do not change into normal shrooms, even if conditions become perfect. And sometimes you just get wacky shit coming up no matter what you do. Just the nature of the beast.
These pics look 1000% better than the first ones. Sideways-rooted mushrooms are common. All those puffs of aerial mycelium tell me that FAE has been too low for a while. We can all see the drastic improvement, but this won't correct itself 100% for a couple weeks or so.
FAE is probably the most subtle and variable aspect of all growing conditions. There is a delicate balance to find for your specific grow set-up. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak. If the best looking plan-on-paper does not produce good results for, alter the plan.
SLIGHTLY.
Make one small change and study the result. In fruiting, it is very easy for new-comers to make drastic changes when they find out there is an issue. "Not enough FAE" so they fan like fiends and dry things up. "OMG, I'm too dry now!" so they drench everything every day... I know, I've done it myself.... 
Marthas can be great. So can monos and SGs. All of the proven teks here work well, and they all can suck if done wrong or they are inappropriate for your situation/climate/etc... It's not really about finding "the perfect tek", but rather "the perfect tek for me".
You may be getting good air-flow in your martha, but if the room/setup is just circling the same air in and out of it, that's not "fresh" air and not nearly as effective. And that's just one possibility...
So far you're looking good, no infections and nice pins coming up. Once you get more experience you'll be able to "listen" to the mushroom more and give it just what it needs.
Whatever change you made, keep it just like that for a while. Increase fanning only if you get lots of fuzzy myc growing around the bases of shrooms as they get taller. They should become noticeably taller every day until harvest.
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Re: Stroma? Contam? Normal growth? Shroomerite needs opinions [Re: mathias]
#14384367 - 05/01/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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you might have just been unlucky and goit alot of mutants, it looks pretty normal apart from some malformed pins which could just be mutants.#
Lack of FAE will usually result in thing squigly mushrooms not really weird looking fruits.
Lack of fae doesnt cause mutants.#]
if this is a multispore grow, then its really luck of the draw. Generaly they should perform fine, but theyw ill always be prone to conditions not considered normal, like werid looking mushrooms, weak fruits, incosistant growth or poor performance
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SpookerShroom
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Re: Stroma? Contam? Normal growth? Shroomerite needs opinions *DELETED* [Re: SpookerShroom]
#14397570 - 05/03/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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mathias
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Re: Stroma? Contam? Normal growth? Shroomerite needs opinions [Re: SpookerShroom]
#14400781 - 05/04/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fan moar.
Other than that, you're looking good. The panama and F+ look text-book good.
I've seen upside-downers and double-shrooms a few times. It's just one of the wacky things that happens.
Stale air early on made for lots of confusion in the pins as they first grew. Aerial mycelium, mutant "blobs" and all manner of odd growths are common in poor FAE environments. Once a weirdness grows, it keeps going until it dies; it will not go away or "correct itself", so don't expect it to.
Since things are so much better now, keep it up and don't worry about it. You're golden!
Clone that upside down one as see if that trait is genetic. I've had only one like that, and the clone-attempt failed due to poor noob tek back in the day. Se la vie......
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anonjon
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Re: Stroma? Contam? Normal growth? Shroomerite needs opinions [Re: mathias]
#14401357 - 05/04/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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When I look at the pics of the mutant pins, it looks like a flush from an overly supplemented substrate, like you would see from adding bloodmeal or too much nitrogen additives.
But it's just verm/coir at 1:3? Seems really odd that it would fruit so prolifically that you'd get mutants like that. Anytime you have a lot of primordia in one place you get a lot of mutants. They absorb each other and try to turn into proper fruits but end up looking monstrous. The question is why did it do that. Did you add something to the spawn itself perhaps? Could there have been something inside your spray bottle?
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