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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14376544 - 04/30/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think we all know that it's useless to try to change your parents minds about anything; especially drugs that they have been raised to believe are morally and spiritually evil.

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14377232 - 04/30/11 11:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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JohnnyConverse said:
You ever hear that chris rock thing about wanting a reward for doing shit you're just supposed to do? That's how I feel about doing chores around the house. You do them to have some pride and be independent and not live in a shithole, you don't do them to justify rent to your parents (which you can never really "pay back" unless you get richie rich rich or take care of them in their dotage in return)




So whats the difference when this same relationship exists between my mum and dad, or my wife and me? The classical thing around here, is that wife does all the housework, cleaning cooking etc. and husband usually works to bring cash home. Isn't that considered fair in your book? Does the gender play a role? Or does this <<secret>> arrangement between couples make it a fair trade for some reason?

Wife is supposed to do all that shit, but certainly awaits her reward for all that which is a full wallet to support the home. How come this sounds correct and fair? It is an equally loving relationship, no? Or do you tell her also what to inhale or GTFO?

Maybe my wife will never be able to pay me back unless she takes care of me during my dotage in that respect.


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ultimately you have to decide if the loss of freedom from living with your parents as a grown man is less than the loss of freedom from having to (gasp) get a job

Now you can argue that you're from the magical country of family values and everyone lives at home till 30 there, not like the souless USA - but your family isn't treating you as an equal and you seem unhappy with their rules.

If you were an equal in the home, this thread wouldn't exist.

Unless you really think you can change their minds, you should just move out.

Note: It's hard to change someone's mind if they taught you to wipe your ass





You gotta fight for your right to alter your consciousness either you're in your parents house or wherever people see it as a crime. It doesn't really matter where you are or who is against these values imo.

There will always be an opposite opinion on what you do with your consciousness, in ANY house.

My real home is planet earth and humans that incriminate the psychedelic experience usually know few things about it.Our role as psychonauts is to share our knowledge and kindly give an insight to the people who feel alienated from this natural biological function, even if they taught you to wipe your ass!

I am organizing a documentary night for my folks.


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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: Sterile]
    #14379182 - 04/30/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So sense you are stickin to your opinion whats your plan? Are you gonna keep the legal plants?:strokebeard:

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: i like cow poo]
    #14379877 - 04/30/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

As long as you're under their roof, you should do what they say. Getting high at a home without worry is a luxury for when you manage to get up and find your own place.

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: Sheeno]
    #14381546 - 05/01/11 07:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You'd do a lot more for our rights to alter our consciousness if you'd prove OUR point that pyschonauts can be otherwise healthy independent people instead of their point that druggies are overgrown children

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14381554 - 05/01/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

And i wouldn't marry someone that a disagreed with me about something so profound and b would let me pull that shit ...sincerely good luck changing their opinion though, for real. Hope it works.

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: i like cow poo]
    #14383154 - 05/01/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

we are talking in a peaceful climate, information does make a difference and internet helps alot.http://www.shroomery.org/forums/newreply.php?Cat=0&Board=37&Number=14379182&page=0&what=showflat&fpart=9&vc=1&replystamp=1304283214. 

Legal psychs are staying, and i don't see any serious disagreements up to now.

@Doc-T:  Thanx for the negative rating, just because we have different viewing angle on social ethics.

@JohnnyConverse: 
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You'd do a lot more for our rights to alter our consciousness if you'd prove OUR point that pyschonauts can be otherwise healthy independent people instead of their point that druggies are overgrown children [quote/]

I prefer to depend on people who love me instead of some asshole boss at work. You can choose whatever suits you best.

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And i wouldn't marry someone that a disagreed with me about something so profound and b would let me pull that shit ...sincerely good luck changing their opinion though, for real. Hope it works. [quote/]

Be careful, cos women can change quite a bit after you marry them, you can't always be shure about their opinion over psychs in the long run. Thanx for wishing me luck, i'm gonna need it!:wink:


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