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Offlineblujay
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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14372592 - 04/29/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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SamuelLJackson said:
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Sterile said:
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it says you joined the shroomery in 01.

assuming you were 18 when you joined, that makes you 28. and you still live with your parents.

need i say more?




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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: blujay]
    #14372608 - 04/29/11 01:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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blujay said:
When I am rich and successful, I am going to keep someone like you in a shed as a pet to scare away solicitors.




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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: DeathCompany]
    #14374154 - 04/29/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sadly enough, stereotypes is all i read in most of your replies my friends.

Most of the people here think i'm just a kid who wants to smoke a fat bowl in its parents house and because it's not allowed to, me cries all day long.

First of all, i don't smoke weed anymore. I have no interest in everyday use of psychoactives or any drug for that matter. I don't like to be an addict.

Living with your parents while being at an older age seems quite alienating to most in here, only because 80% of you live in a country that has this social mentality and you grow up with it engraved inside your minds.

I just want to remind you, that there are members of the shroomery that don't live in the US and you should respect and keep an open mind towards other social ethics that are considered the norm in other countries.

In my country it is not considered shameful for a family to live together as one, it is pride to be able to manage such a balance of individuals living together during different stages of their lives.

What i really wanted to point out in this post, was the war on drugs that has its root in each and every home.

As a matter of fact, any type of war has its root in the family and in the house. As i said, it is a miniature of society, if you can't find solutions and love in your house, how do you expect to find them between strangers in the outside world?

Hate, violence, and greed, are all household seeds, that germinate when the conditions are just right. If you run away from these problems, you never really deal with them, you just carry them elsewhere.

In my mother language, the word we use for someone who works for money means literally "enslavement" as opposed to when a person is actually creating something not for gaining wealth.

I will end this post with the wise words of Ralph Metzner, from his wonderful speech during his valuable lesson at the World Psychedelic Forum in Basel, a few years ago:  (As i remember them, no exact speech) 

          "The best thing, we humans can do on earth, is help the trees do their job. The trees are more advanced forms of life because they have been evolving so much longer than us on earth... They photosynthesize they use the most in abundance energy found in our solar system, the sun, and do that without even having to move much. 

The best thing we can accomplish on earth is to work for them. Work for the trees."


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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: Sterile] * 2
    #14374210 - 04/29/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah but clearly you're the child in the home and not some sort of equal

or your OP would say "My dad tried to take my shit away, realized he couldn't, and I lol'd"


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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14374234 - 04/29/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

wtf dude move out if you are gonna smoke weed and you live in a house where it isn't cool.


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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14374244 - 04/29/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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you started this thread because you are mad about your parents ethics, then rebuttle everyone's input with a rejection of theirs - on the basis of their lack of platform to advance ethics that differ from yours, which you hold on the basis of ethical statements that everyone should be their own person




I started this thread as a way to analyze the roots of the war on drugs on a social level. I rebuttle any input only if i see a reason to do so. Just pointing out cultural differences and speaking about my point of view regarding respect and freedom is not harming anyone. Relax.


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ps garden chores are not a job




Why is the every human on earth paying/working/trading for them?


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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: Sterile] * 3
    #14374281 - 04/29/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

right see that's like saying if you change your own oil for an hour you just contributed 50 bucks to the house because that's what a mechanic makes

it's just not like that

sorry

It's funny to me you want to hit reverse and claim this is some \social analysis thread

you started it to bitch about your parents

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14374576 - 04/29/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Man even if it is unjust, which it isn't, why don't you move out and become free.:oldman:

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: i like cow poo]
    #14374893 - 04/29/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I hear ya brother.  I see from your registration date (which is before anyone else in this thread) that you are not a complaining teenager.  You all contribute something to the household.  I live in the US and I think it is ridiculous that most Americans have this phobia about living with their family past the age of 18.  It is a very inefficient way to live.  Each family is a small community for better or for worse.  I am sorry to hear that your family doesn't agree with your lifestyle choices.  You might try putting your thoughts into words.  Write them a letter stating your POV.  They may not listen to you, but, it is difficult not to read a letter that is written to you.  Just a thought.  I hope you can reconcile your differences with your family.:peace:

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14374947 - 04/29/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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physicist said:
I hear ya brother.  I see from your registration date (which is before anyone else in this thread) that you are not a complaining teenager.  You all contribute something to the household.  I live in the US and I think it is ridiculous that most Americans have this phobia about living with their family past the age of 18.  It is a very inefficient way to live.  Each family is a small community for better or for worse.  I am sorry to hear that your family doesn't agree with your lifestyle choices.  You might try putting your thoughts into words.  Write them a letter stating your POV.  They may not listen to you, but, it is difficult not to read a letter that is written to you.  Just a thought.  I hope you can reconcile your differences with your family.:peace:




it doesn't matter if it's his parents or mates or what

if the whole house isn't cool with it and he's the only one that wants it in the house he's the one that needs to move

esp. if his name's not on the deed

and he's 18 exactly, he said so in the OP

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: Sterile]
    #14375089 - 04/29/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Sterile said: i should just go by the rules of the house or get the fuck out.




Agreed.

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: JohnnyConverse]
    #14376302 - 04/30/11 07:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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JohnnyConverse said:
right see that's like saying if you change your own oil for an hour you just contributed 50 bucks to the house because that's what a mechanic makes

it's just not like that

sorry





Saving 50 bucks from your family expenses is not contributing?  :dudewtf:


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It's funny to me you want to hit reverse and claim this is some \social analysis thread

you started it to bitch about your parents




So you think i just felt strong need to vent about my family problem without looking at the roots and the relevance it has in a psychedelic community with like minded people?

Mind altering plants, shroomery, shroomerites, war on drugs, discrimination of the use of psychoactives. Yeah right, it was just something personal, i never thought it has any social relation with other psychonauts.

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: Doc_T]
    #14376317 - 04/30/11 07:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thats prolly what you're gonna say to your kid in the future. Nice approach, full of understanding and open minded communication you got there.

What a great relationship! :thumbdown:


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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: Sterile]
    #14376324 - 04/30/11 07:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

man, this thread :doublefacepalm: :doublefacepalm:


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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: gerryjarcia]
    #14376335 - 04/30/11 07:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Rough crowd OP

the thread is too long and full of non-constructive criticism so fuck all that

I say (as many others already have) throw out their tea, coffee and cigarettes. Psilocybin and alcohol containing products can stay since they're produced by fungi


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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: DeathCompany]
    #14376342 - 04/30/11 07:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I think the reason he has such an extremist and rediculous point of view in his arguments on everything from keeping psychs in the house to not getting a job, is merely a very strong case of denial where he is simply trying to convince himself that his actions are 100% justified.




So Dr.DeathCompany thinks keeping legal psychs in the house is wrong, and so is contributing personal work in a house instead of cash.Hmmm...interesting...



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The closer he comes to realizing what he is doing is wrong, it causes discomfort and he immediately tries to rationalize it to the point where he can tell himself its not actually his fault. It does not matter how detached the excuse is, he will make it work in his head to avoid trauma.




So you are telling me i need excuses to continue feeling OK about my hardcore crimes against humanity: Keeping LEGAL plants in my home and not working for cash all the time...dude....i'm sorry but....:gaystapo:

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Chances are if he reads this he will instantly experience strong irrational emotions and then try to find crazy excuses on how I'm completely wrong and what I said makes no sense in his situation, to soften the blow.


 

You are a prophet man. I found insanely crazy excuses and you are correct about everything.


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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: Sterile]
    #14376345 - 04/30/11 07:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Thats prolly what you're gonna say to your kid in the future. Nice approach, full of understanding and open minded communication you got there.

What a great relationship! :thumbdown:





I can relate with this.          Absolutely no 'open communication' with my parents, so i play they're game and hardly communicate with them  :shrug:


I don't plan to ever have kids but if I did, I believe first and formost I would talk open with them otherwise what's the fucking point.        Anytime my dad would rip on weed i would just tell him how his lovely religious neighbors all like to drink alcohol which is 10 times worse.

Fuck man the old generation is going to be dead in 20 years .

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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: Sterile]
    #14376350 - 04/30/11 07:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What's wrong here is your inability to put the desires of others ahead of your own.
it's a sort of fundamental immaturity that will plague you until you outgrow it.

Man up, man.


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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: mellowparty]
    #14376366 - 04/30/11 07:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You are right mellowparty, the criticism in this thread is starting to look worse than my initial problems. But i can clearly see why so many people like to dictate others what to eat and drink.

Eat what i tell you or GTFO. This is getting truly boring, i'm out of here.

:thumbup:


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Re: War on mind altering plants in my house [Re: Sterile]
    #14376493 - 04/30/11 08:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You ever hear that chris rock thing about wanting a reward for doing shit you're just supposed to do? That's how I feel about doing chores around the house. You do them to have some pride and be independent and not live in a shithole, you don't do them to justify rent to your parents (which you can never really "pay back" unless you get richie rich rich or take care of them in their dotage in return)

It's very simple

if you like the living arrangement, stay

if you don't, go

If you don't like it but stay because getting a job chaps your ass, but you whine about the house rules, you should grow up and go

ultimately you have to decide if the loss of freedom from living with your parents as a grown man is less than the loss of freedom from having to (gasp) get a job

Now you can argue that you're from the magical country of family values and everyone lives at home till 30 there, not like the souless USA - but your family isn't treating you as an equal and you seem unhappy with their rules.

If you were an equal in the home, this thread wouldn't exist.

Unless you really think you can change their minds, you should just move out.

Note: It's hard to change someone's mind if they taught you to wipe your ass

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