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How do us humans complicate things so much?
    #14375673 - 04/30/11 12:54 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I just had an overreaching realization that shit does not have to be as hard as we make it.

Right now, Earth has enough resources to comfortably take care of every single human being alive. How do some have so much and others have so little?

We're an intelligent species, we empathize, we care for the success of each other and collectively as a species. How do we cause so much pain, agony, and unnecessary suffering to each other?

We know that we're not completely homogeneous, but we also know the two facts above. How is it that we can suppress each others' ideas, opinions, hopes and dreams as simple as making it by?

I don't know guys, what's your opinion on this? I know we aren't perfect as a species, I just don't understand how it takes us so long to make any progress. How do things get so complicated?


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Shrink]
    #14375734 - 04/30/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Shrink said:
How do things get so complicated?




Complexes. Think about it


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: the bizzle]
    #14376648 - 04/30/11 09:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

what makes you think that rich powerful people care for the success of others?


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: the bizzle]
    #14376665 - 04/30/11 09:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Shrink said:
How do things get so complicated?




Complexes. Think about it




:rofl:
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Also, humans aren't any different than the rest of the animal life on the planet. Those able to dominate will do so.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Kickle]
    #14382201 - 05/01/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

some people are just FUCKED.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: unsui888]
    #14383334 - 05/01/11 03:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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some people are just FUCKED.




the victim role and being oppressed is just a cop out.  passive aggressive people underneath their victimization.  can't wait to bitch about the system yet milk it for all it is worth. 

domination and being dominated are by choice.  some pay good money for this.  others wail and moan whoa is me that mean landlord wants his rent now.

well renter, you deserve to be fucked.  pay your mother fucking rent bitch and quit crying because it's the first.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Shrink]
    #14384338 - 05/01/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it's up to all of us to simplify our own minds and lifestyle :peace:

like henry david thoreau said

keep quiet, be still, and you're helping the world


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Shrink] * 1
    #14384623 - 05/01/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We're an intelligent species, we empathize, we care for the success of each other and collectively as a species.

Where did you get that silly notion?

While it's true that SOME people are like that, the majority are not. And this makes sense. Natural selection works to select out individuals with empathy end selflessness. It's the ruthless and violent that are most suitable to survive and procreate (survival of the fittest). And those characteristics are the reason humans are among the most successful species on the planet.

Now don't misread me. I think it's a shame that our smarts hasn't been able to replace our ruthlessness. With our intelligence, we could have made a paradise on the Earth, inventing machines to free us from work so we can pursue more pleasant things. Instead, we've devoted enormous resources to inventing better ways to kill each other. Like it or not, that's how it is. Nature has selected for that.

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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14384699 - 05/01/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Natural selection works to select out individuals with empathy end selflessness.




In a social species? I don't think so...


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Sleepwalker]
    #14384863 - 05/01/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Even in a social species, the devious, liars, and cheats (assuming they're good at it) are fitter and more likely to survive.

Think about it. The guy who's good enough to steal the communal buffalo meat and can lie about it without getting caught is more likely to survive and breed. If he does get caught, well, then he's not fit enough and gets selected out.

Look toward Wall Street then toward Main Street if you don't believe me.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14385446 - 05/01/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

while this is true for society at the present, how far do you think that attitude of life works in times of desperation?

for example , tsunamis, tornadoes, hurricanes, bombings, earthquakes, plague, invasion of tyranny.


Answer is look at Katrina and how well we react in modern society and also how well New Orleans and its people benifited from it.

Clearly were on a good path to evolution because i see some vulnerable gaps in how well we think we grasp the reality of nature.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14385600 - 05/01/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Even in a social species, the devious, liars, and cheats (assuming they're good at it) are fitter and more likely to survive.

Think about it. The guy who's good enough to steal the communal buffalo meat and can lie about it without getting caught is more likely to survive and breed. If he does get caught, well, then he's not fit enough and gets selected out.

Loot toward Wall Street then toward Main Street if you don't believe me.





pessimism at its best.  I wouldn't wanna be caught dead on wall street! that shit sucks.  If you want the truly tasty fruits of life, lying and cheating won't get you far.  I'm talking about art and love btw.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: g00ru]
    #14385749 - 05/01/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I wrote the OP while I was pretty much high as shit, no sense of of pessimism to be found. I wish that everyone could have the sense of oneness you get on psychedelics and certain other types of drugs. You guys have some good ideas about it though. I wonder if we'll ever overcome the typical survivalist evolution and become a peaceful species. That would likely lead to a lack of competition and some interesting evolution in itself. Reminds me of H.G. Wells Time Machine if you guys have ever read it. Pretty nihilistic views expressed.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Shrink]
    #14385774 - 05/01/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

oneness can be achieved now, without drugs


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14386120 - 05/01/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Natural selection works to select out individuals with empathy end selflessness.




I disagree.  Empathy and altruism are incredibly beneficial for a species, and although natural selection does lead to better cheaters and liars, it also leads to better martyrs and self-sacrificers for the good of the species.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: g00ru]
    #14387370 - 05/02/11 08:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

pessimism at its best

Not pessimism. Realism. Closing your eyes to the ugly reality around you won't make it untrue.

If you want the truly tasty fruits of life, lying and cheating won't get you far

I disagree on the strength of the abundant evidence all around us.

Nasty, lying, cheaters often get the best life has to offer. A life of leisure to pursue whatever makes them happy at the expense of those they lied to and cheated. The losers have little recourse except in some contrived fantasy idea of them going to hell (or fill in your favorite mental masturbation) in the end.

Sure, you can reply with some trite cliche about how there's more to life, but that rings hollow to me. I'm pretty sure the Wall Stree thieves live happy, fulfilled lives while their victims are living in shelters.

oneness can be achieved now, without drugs

There's that trite cliche I was talking about.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: deCypher]
    #14387382 - 05/02/11 08:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Empathy and altruism are incredibly beneficial for a species

Not for ours. Humans are successful because we wared on the neighboring tribes, killed the men, stole their shit, and raped their desirable women.

We still do it today. Two world wars in 100 years and dozens of current ongoing conflicts.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14388121 - 05/02/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

diploid, do you have any clue how you are just spewing negative energy into the system? Goddam man, do you have any sense of how your negative mindset could actually have an impact on the world?  I hear you say so many times "this is what's wrong with the world," "that's what's wrong with the world." Sounds like you need to take some responsibility, and realize that it's YOU it all comes back to.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: g00ru]
    #14388447 - 05/02/11 12:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

do you have any sense of how your negative mindset could actually have an impact on the world?

I just tell it like I see it buddy. You're shooting the messenger.

"Unshakable faith" and similar non-thinking is what impacts the world. Not stating what I see in the world.

If everyone used rationality to structure their lives and behavior instead of unshakable faith in dubious, unverifiable internal experiences that could very well be simple psychological artifacts, there would be no religious wars, suicide bombers, or drug prohibition laws.

Do you think Osama bin Laden blew up two buildings because he was rational or because he had unshakable faith in his internal experiences?


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14388858 - 05/02/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

are you comparing me to osama bin laden? Prrrretty sure i'm not aiming to kill massive amounts of people, i kinda just wanna get really good at guitar. :lol: but you're right that osama probably was a very "in it" guy, there are such things as false priests you know, spiritually advanced beings who turn towards evil.

you may think you're just being the messenger but really you're dwelling on the negative aspects.  those things don't matter as much as you think, seriously. there's evil in the world, true, but the best way to get rid of it is to find peace in yourself, and that's less likely to happen freaking yourself out about shit.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: g00ru] * 2
    #14388995 - 05/02/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

are you comparing me to osama bin laden?

Nope. I'm comparing a mode of thinking (unshakable faith) to bin Laden's mode of thinking (unshakable faith). Even when there is hard, clear, unassailable evidence against said faithful beliefs.

Some smart person once said: "Believe those who are seeking Truth. Doubt those who've found it."

there are such things as false priests you know

But surely none from the cadre of hard-to-pronounce names you like to drop, and especially not your 1,500 year old buddy, right?

spiritually advanced beings who turn towards evil

More likely ordinary pompous fools who think they're spiritually advanced until their ordinary human nature overwhelms their delusions.

those things don't matter as much as you think, seriously

Seriously, those things blew up two buildings, forcibly cut the clitoris of women, and lock up pot heads who just want to be left alone.

Sure, they don't matter that much.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14389100 - 05/02/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:shrug: maybe one day you'll see how it all really comes together.  i hope so. its ALL you man, once you realize that you'll have a totally different perspective on world events.

btw i don't have unshakeable faith in anything but myself, my beliefs are constantly changing and evolving


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: g00ru] * 2
    #14389243 - 05/02/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

maybe one day you'll see how it all really comes together

There's that arrogant condescension again. You're right. You've seen the light. Your beliefs are superior. The rest of us, well, maybe some day we can hope to reach your advanced level of understanding.

It's self-righteous bullshit no better than bin Laden or any other whack job mystic who make this such an ugly world by virtue of their certainty in how things are rather than a humble understanding that they probably don't know shit.

btw i don't have unshakeable faith in anything

That hardly matters if you believe demonstrable nonsense like 1,500 year old men. How could you possibly ever change your mind about that when you categorically reject the unassailable facts of biochemistry and molecular biology that show this is impossible.

It is unshakable faith because nothing (not even hard chemical facts) can shake your faith.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14389652 - 05/02/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



Some things are more shakeable than others.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14389700 - 05/02/11 04:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think Osama bin Laden actually had unshakable faith in anything. He just knew how to manipulate people and bore a nasty grudge.

Suicide bombers - now that's what I call unshakable faith. Possibly in tandem with unshakable frustration.

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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14389798 - 05/02/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So free hookers might reduce terrorism?


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14391126 - 05/02/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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So free hookers might reduce terrorism?


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14391163 - 05/02/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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maybe one day you'll see how it all really comes together

There's that arrogant condescension again. You're right. You've seen the light. Your beliefs are superior. The rest of us, well, maybe some day we can hope to reach your advanced level of understanding.

It's self-righteous bullshit no better than bin Laden or any other whack job mystic who make this such an ugly world by virtue of their certainty in how things are rather than a humble understanding that they probably don't know shit.

btw i don't have unshakeable faith in anything

That hardly matters if you believe demonstrable nonsense like 1,500 year old men. How could you possibly ever change your mind about that when you categorically reject the unassailable facts of biochemistry and molecular biology that show this is impossible.

It is unshakable faith because nothing (not even hard chemical facts) can shake your faith.





edit: goddamit talkin bout myself too much.

ya sry sometimes i snap and just fall back on the fact that i know i'm right, its not cool to do that on a message board.

i wish i could meet everybody on this board in real life, then you'd see i'm actually a nice guy:rainbowcloud:


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: g00ru]
    #14391330 - 05/02/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

i have realized some stuff that the vast majority of people never do

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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14391345 - 05/02/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:hug:


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14391701 - 05/02/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Empathy and altruism are incredibly beneficial for a species

Not for ours. Humans are successful because we wared on the neighboring tribes, killed the men, stole their shit, and raped their desirable women.

We still do it today. Two world wars in 100 years and dozens of current ongoing conflicts.




I'm not denying that aggression and selfish tendencies can increase an individual's fitness, but humans are ALSO successful because of our altruistic tendencies: we band together in communities for protection, send the men out to fight so that the women and children can survive, and establish charities, volunteer efforts such as food banks and homeless shelters, and donate to noble causes both local and overseas.  It seems like a biased outlook to only take notice of the evil in our species and ignore all the good; perhaps the media is somewhat responsible for this in that disasters and wars sell newspapers whereas altruistic and selfless actions generally do not.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #14391708 - 05/02/11 10:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If empathy did not contribute to our survival, it would not have evolved. It is not the vestigial remnant of some bygone physiological change, it is a developed social behavior found in several different species.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: deCypher]
    #14391723 - 05/02/11 10:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I take issue with atheists because they so often seem to hold "spirituals" to the very same standards they themselves consider unreasonable. It's a logical cul-de-sac.

Too commonly I see atheists tearing apart transcendent conceptualizations of virtue and righteousness with one breath, while condemning the Pope for failing to adhere to those very same (supposedly nonexistent) ideals with the next.

CS Lewis said of his period as an atheist that he was "Angry at God for not existing."


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14395276 - 05/03/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #14395300 - 05/03/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

most people given the opportunity to do bad will do bad if it benefits them personally

thats human condition


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: the human abstract]
    #14395542 - 05/03/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid]
    #14399018 - 05/04/11 09:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i have realized some stuff that the vast majority of people never do

:facepalm:




its okay i'm still a retard like 30% of the time  :braindamage:


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Diploid] * 1
    #14402081 - 05/04/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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i have realized some stuff that the vast majority of people never do

:facepalm:




I like your ideas Diploid, they appeal to my rationalist nature. I try to go about things in the socratic method, and even after 20 years of living I'm not really sure about anything. Someone's guess is as good as mine really. All I've got left is science and logic based on observations. What I've come to is that though the human species might be fucked do to the inevitability of extinction, I might as well be nice to people because frankly if its between that and only fulfilling my greed,I just feel more comfortable about it. I'm not sure its possible to be nihilistic and empathetic like this. Maybe its just the conditioning of how I've grown up mixed with the science and mathematics I trust to a fairly sure degree.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: NetDiver]
    #14402344 - 05/04/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If empathy did not contribute to our survival, it would not have evolved. It is not the vestigial remnant of some bygone physiological change, it is a developed social behavior found in several different species.



Not only that, but I have a good feeling that empathy is positively correlated with intelligence and will evolve alongside it. In the way that, generally, "intelligent" people tend to be more empathetic. I say generally because intelligence is a tricky subject, along with rather "extreme" variants such as sociopathy, where logic may be enhanced but empathetic qualities flattened. Let's go with general intelligence across all fields, where social constructs and understanding certainly play a huge role.

The majority of people are too dumb and lack the empathy to see beyond themselves: that's why things are so complicated. :shrug: I forgot who said this, but basically the world's problems are caused by rapid technological evolution while moral, behavioral, ethical evolution is lagging far behind. Not in all humans, but most. As for us, we must find our own peace while we wait for the rest of the world to catch up. Or maybe we can help them along.


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Shrink]
    #14402859 - 05/04/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Maybe its just the conditioning of how I've grown up mixed with the science and mathematics I trust to a fairly sure degree.




i think thats probably it


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14413844 - 05/07/11 04:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't think Osama bin Laden actually had unshakable faith in anything.


Why do you think this? Do you have any evidence to back this up?


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He just knew how to manipulate people and bore a nasty grudge.


Even though he knew how to manipulate people, how does this mean that he didn't have unshakable faith in something? Is it not possible that he both bore a nasty grudge and had unshakable faith in something?


Osama bin Laden
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At university, Osama's main interest was religion, where he was involved in both "interpreting the Quran and jihad"...


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Following an extreme form of Islamism, bin Laden believed that the restoration of God's law will set things right in the Muslim world—or as he put it, his hope that the revelation unto Mohammed will be resorted to for ruling.



Sounds like unshakable faith to me. :shrug:


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Too commonly I see atheists tearing apart transcendent conceptualizations of virtue and righteousness with one breath, while condemning the Pope for failing to adhere to those very same (supposedly nonexistent) ideals with the next.


So atheists point and laugh at delusional hypocrites..so what?


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Re: How do us humans complicate things so much? [Re: Poid]
    #14414445 - 05/07/11 09:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

its a good question, i honestly think the entertainment industry is to blame for a lot of it, they control the masses. as much as pants off dance off makes me wanna feed the hungry, they still definitely shit the bed when it comes to making it cool to be selfless. if the overall message was to help other people the world would be a lot different. i dunno if youve ever heard of the concept of beliefs acting similar to a virus, but it has some merit, the belief that its easier to get happiness by being selfish has been winning since the beginning but its definitely getting weaker now if you compare us today to people back then theres a definite difference.


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