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Kills 99.9% of household Mold & Mildew?
    #14374464 - 04/29/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hello everyone. So today I was cleaning when suddenly I looked down and had a thought...

Would Tilex Mold & Mildew remover work well for sanitizing a glove box before inoculation, or a incubation tub, or perhaps even be useful in the fruiting chamber?

Currently I use Lysol religiously even just when opening up my incubator to check progress. I use EPI-CLENZ hand sanitizer for my hands (my mom is a RN so It's suitable for use in a hospital environment) on top of this I rub my hands together with a paper towel that has some 70% iso on it.

But even with all this I'm wondering if I can attack the contams directly whether there present or not by using the tilex. It says it kills 99.9% of all household mold & mildew just as the Lysol kills 99.9% of germs.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't my enemy mold & mildew rather than germs?

However Lysol obviously has a great effect on the reduction of airborne contaminants. So my plan would be to use the tilex and the Lysol together.

You can't be to safe it's a yucky spore filled world out there and I don't plan on raising any babys that arn't mine by accident lol.

(TILEX BOTTLE)
Active Ingredient: reads like this...
Sodium Hypochlorite......2.40%
OTHER INGREDIENTS:......97.60%
TOTAL:.................100.00%
Yields 2.28% available chlorine

It says "Contains Clorox Bleach" right on the front.

I may be missing something but thats why I'm asking.

My only concern is that the mycelium is a type of mold so by using a chemical that targets mold and mildew would I just be setting myself up for disaster? (Sorta like dumping round up on a nice stinky garden lol.)

This is just a thought I had and right now it makes sense in my head so if this is a stupid idea please just tell me why so I know.

Any advice or comments are welcome.

Thank you.


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Re: Kills 99.9% of household Mold & Mildew? [Re: mroy1300]
    #14375201 - 04/29/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i wouldn't really use the tilex, sure that would kill most mold and germs, its a bit overkill, lol. i mean, you could, but lysol is cheaper, and would cover more space. unless your house has had mold problems, and really dusty in the air, then yeah, it'd be warranted. just use lysol for that i'd suggest, but if you'd feel safer using tilex, go for it :smile:

lysol is pretty cheap, but when checking incubation, i give them a spray too, when they're incubating.

Mycelium is a fungus, actually.
Mold is different, so are germs, obviously

i've had trich sporulate in my grow room before, and i dont even sterilize my glovebox, only after i put them all back in their boxes, and thats only with lysol. "smells nice"

it doesnt effect the myc, as long as your not spraying it onto cakes, or into the jars. helps if you have a dry verm layer, which im assuming you do, cant tell in the pics.

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Re: Kills 99.9% of household Mold & Mildew? [Re: dizzyease]
    #14375480 - 04/29/11 11:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

My only concerns are that 2 years back I found what I suspected to be black mold on the wood window frame about 4 feet from where I inoculate. But I immediately hit it with bleach water and painted over it with kills. Worked like a charm haven't seen it since but that doesn't mean I'm not still worried about it especially with my cakes colonizing in this room.

Also the house I am in was built a little before world war 2 and the upkeep hasn't been the best for about the past 9 to 10 years(I mean the house is in good shape its just old and I'm 99% sure that there are many more contaminates here than most homes in my area) I'm pretty sure you could find some pretty bad contaminates lurking just around the corner.

Also the room I inoculate and colonize in has a gas fireplace, a shower, and two dogs in it at all times. (not sure if any of that even matters) On the plus side there is no carpeting to harbor thousands of millions of contams its just a plywood floor. The room has a futon and a bed thats it for cloth stuff other than my clothes of course.

Also one year a go there were several plants(I'm not going to go into detail) growing in my room. I believe there is a couple of SUPER dry root balls with a good amount of dirt still attached that I have been meaning to take care of since I moved back in a month ago. When I say dry I mean they have been behind my shower by the water heater for a year so I know for a fact there really dry. Personally I don't believe anything could be living in there but I'm not an expert on trich.

But worst of all since the house is so old it will be impossible to have the room airtight. Also its worth mentioning there are 2 big old wood windows in the room that do not produce an airtight seal. What will that mean as far as contams and my worst fear yet bugs.

Do you think I am at a higher risk of infection compared to the average mycologist.

Note: If you are thinking about posting I will ask that you please refrain from suggesting I grow somewhere else as I do not see that as an option and I have my heart set on doing it in this location.

Thank you.


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Re: Kills 99.9% of household Mold & Mildew? [Re: mroy1300]
    #14375521 - 04/30/11 12:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Warm soapy water, rinse w/clean water, air dry. :thumbup:


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Re: Kills 99.9% of household Mold & Mildew? [Re: Doc_T]
    #14375659 - 04/30/11 12:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The whole house! lol jk you could have been a little more detailed but I appreciate your opinion.

Personally do you believe that works better than diluted bleach?

Just curious if maybe your trying to avid chemicals wherever possible?

Its not that simple thou because there is the dog fur and when they go outside to go to the bathroom there coming right back in COVERED in trich spores I'm sure and whatever other contaminates are in there fur.

Then there is the windows those would ideally need to be sealed the shower cleanned and disinfected 2x to make sure no spots were missed washing every piece of clothing and blanket and pillow in the room and renting a shampooer to clean futon and bed matress.

Wow and thats just to start things off lol I fear i may have gotten a little ahead of my self and there was sill a lot of preparation needed.

Am I that bad off growing here or is it a tiny bit harder to get contamination than everyone makes it seem. I mean the only way I can think of to be 100% you don't risk contamination is to inoculate and colonize in a bio-hazard grade laboratory.

I understand you take a gamble every time and you ALWAYS run the risk of contamination no matter how good your sterile technique is. But that just isn't good enough.

If you really want to see your strain thrive you must eliminate all of its competition. Could you just imagine the possibilities if you didn't have to worry about contaminates! I need to start coming up with ideas for a poor mans sanitary inoculation and colinization room.

I would imagine it be like a 2x4 frame wrapped in black plastic and sealed airtight. you could have an exhaust vent and a flow hood that could pump in more air then your exhaust could let out that way if done correctly you would have pressure built up to help keep contaminates away from your new "room" and would keep you completely safe from bugs because of the moving air. I think this is a great idea I would love to hear some peoples input.


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Re: Kills 99.9% of household Mold & Mildew? [Re: mroy1300]
    #14376686 - 04/30/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

its really not THAT easy to get contams, i mean, if you dont use a glovebox, than fine, oust your air, bleach your walls, find a good room.
a glovebox, that is built properly, all you need to worry about is sterilizing THAT, spray down with lysol, let dry, ta da!

keep foil on your jars, with a good verm layer, and your set! although when you have your jars in the incubator, remove the foil for gas exchange, it will colonize faster.

my house is 80 years old, theres GO to be mold in my attic, as long as you use that glovebox, read up on glovebox tips and stuff, thats all you need to worry about really.

not saying dont attend to mold on walls or stuff, but if you do agar or grains and things like that, it definately will show how easy you can get contams. PF tek jars are the easiest to avoid contams with imo :smile:

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