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Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana
    #14374981 - 04/29/11 09:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana
April 29, 2011 - tokeofthetown.com

Add Rhode Island to the list of states that have received threatening letters from the federal government on the issue of medical marijuana in recent weeks.

Significantly, the Rhode Island letter -- delivered to Governor Lincoln Chafee's office on Friday -- unlike all of the other recent U.S. Attorney letters to medical marijuana states, does NOT begin with a line like "In response to your inquiry..."

"That likely means that this legal advice was not solicited by the Rhode Island government, marking an escalation in the feds' aggressiveness on this issue," media relations director Tom Angell at Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP) told Toke of the Town Friday evening.

To date, U.S. Attorneys have only weighed in with threat letters after being contacted by state and local officials.

U.S. Attorney Peter Neronha delivered a letter to Gov. Chafee, reiterting the DOJ's policy on medical marijuana, reports Megan Hall at WRNI. Although the feds have a state policy of not focusing their priorities on prosecuting patients in medical marijuana states, it will go after what it claims are "large scale drug traffickers."

Unfortunately, it seems the Obama DOJ now puts dispensaries -- or, as they're known in Rhode Island, compassion centers -- in that category.

Jim Martin with the U.S. Attorney's Office wouldn't answer most of WRNI's questions, saying "the letter speaks for itself" -- but he wouldn't give reporter Hall a copy of the letter.

He assured Hall that the text is "very similar" to this one [PDF] sent to Governor Christine Gregoire of Washington state.

Gov. Chafee's office was finally able to give Hall a copy of the letter [PDF], "but not much of a response," she reports: "The letter in question from the U.S. Attorney's Office was received today, and is under review."

One of the key paragraphs from the U.S. Attorney's letter calls the establishment of Rhode Island's three compassion centers "contrary to federal law, and thus undermines the federal government's efforts to regulate the possession, manufacturing and trafficking of controlled substance. Accordingly, the Department of Justice could consider civil and criminal legal remedies against those individuals and entities who set up marijuana dispensaries as such actions are in violation of federal law."


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: veggie] * 1
    #14375006 - 04/29/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

But democrats are sooo pro marijuana im confused (sarcasm)


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: Mush 4 Brains] * 1
    #14375102 - 04/29/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The federal government and its corporate puppet masters  need to stop pushing the people like this.  especially considering that they are violating the tenth amendment of the very constitution they are supposed uphold.  Hopefully this teaches people how little "democracy" means in the U.S. i cannot find words that accurately describe how pissed off this makes me.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: dob1026] * 1
    #14375313 - 04/29/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

this is why us citizens have guns. It is tie for armed response to counter armed response. Voters voted and peacefully changed the laws to what they wanted. The powers that be are saying "no" so the only recourse is to fight fire with fire.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14375355 - 04/29/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Mush 4 Brains said:
But democrats are sooo pro marijuana im confused (sarcasm)




it's not like democrats OR republicans are pro marijuana. jesus what a capitalistic country this is. how do you spell bouja? is that how you spell it? it's french right? and there is a symbol over the a obviously if that IS how you spell it.

didn't obama have pro pot supporters in his campaign? has there ever been a president that DIDN'T lie his way through his campaign and change every single thing he said after he became president?

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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: imachavel]
    #14375405 - 04/29/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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jesus what a capitalistic country this is



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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14375550 - 04/30/11 12:13 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

You know what fuck the DEA. Let those fucks come to my house. I will have trip wires leading to Semi Auto triggers pointing at my fucking doorway.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am] * 1
    #14375751 - 04/30/11 01:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Im glad for a capitalist  country. hell id rather live here then other countries. dont even start arguing capitalism as a problem. no system is perfect. utopia doesnt exist while humanity is around.



Now lets start on drug laws.... a whole other story. Its bullshit. its been based off of racism and religion . Hell look up any drug. what do you see?? negative feed back. all chritian groups and government funded programs who have no business in the discussions.


Obama? a fucking joke. I am 23 years old now. I was 20 years old when i told all my peers that they were voting for a fucking noob in politics. A guy that would be told what to do by his peers. Im pretty sure i am a complete idiot because all my peers voted for Obama. They all fucking followed the democrat-liberal agenda.
I dont like repubs or demos. Its a society thing that everyone follow. A bunch of fucking sheep. Its so pathetic. and everyone around my age is all for it. They were like Obama Obama! like hes some new age jesus. This is suppose to be the age of smarter people? yet i look around am im surrounded by fucking blind sheep being eaten by the wolf which out numbers us.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #14375919 - 04/30/11 02:46 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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jesus what a capitalistic country this is



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Capitalism compels the war on drugs...


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: rodfarva] * 1
    #14375944 - 04/30/11 02:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Shouldnt he worry about the rednecks killed by this weeks storms, instead of some Weed heads?...


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: orison]
    #14376174 - 04/30/11 05:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Shouldnt he worry about the rednecks killed by this weeks storms, instead of some Weed heads?...



You would think so
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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: orison]
    #14376176 - 04/30/11 05:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:punish2::razz:
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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: orison]
    #14376354 - 04/30/11 07:41 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Shouldnt he worry about the rednecks killed by this weeks storms, instead of some Weed heads?...



If that's what you would like to talk about, I'm sure you're capable of starting a thread on it. In fact, I'll help you out. Here's a link to begin your charity work, http://www.redcross.org/. Not trying to be a huge prick here, but I feel both topics are worth discussing, in their own rights.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: batman returns]
    #14376534 - 04/30/11 08:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I really hope that people dont bend to the pressure the federal government places. Sooner and sooner the time will come until the feds are forced to legalize.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: rodfarva]
    #14376535 - 04/30/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Mush 4 Brains said:
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jesus what a capitalistic country this is



used to be



Capitalism compels the war on drugs...



No, government meddling in commerce facilitates the war on drugs.  Pure capitalism would mean that the government would have no say in all markets, including drugs.  The collusion between the government and DuPont and pharmaceutical companies is what caused this.  Without government involvement, the war on drugs would never have existed.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: demon6fire]
    #14376734 - 04/30/11 09:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

They need to team up with California and Colorado and not pay taxes to the us goverment then they could just go away, If people wanna smoke weed let them.  Thought that we had freedom and such where are we in  Afganastan, Iraq, Libya,- Feel sorry for those guys, After The Us makes Them "free"  WOW


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: demon6fire]
    #14376808 - 04/30/11 10:16 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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rodfarva said:
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jesus what a capitalistic country this is



used to be



Capitalism compels the war on drugs...



No, government meddling in commerce facilitates the war on drugs.  Pure capitalism would mean that the government would have no say in all markets, including drugs.  The collusion between the government and DuPont and pharmaceutical companies is what caused this.  Without government involvement, the war on drugs would never have existed.




That's not entirely true...  If you actually take the time to read Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith, the book by which Capitalism is generally based off of, he notes that Capitalism will always fail with no regulation.  He suggests that human faults will always step in the way of a successful system unregulated.  As long as people still try to push greed into regulation, i.e. the system used now with lobbyists and other political groups, you will inherently have equal problems/conflicts.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: 420Experience] * 1
    #14377510 - 04/30/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

And the Civil War Continues.  Originaly it was fought because of states rights being dictated by a strong central government...simply stated (the wrong side won) And now we must suffer at their hands with 1 hand in our pocket, and the other hand holding the constitution.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: TheShroomanizer] * 1
    #14377965 - 04/30/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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And the Civil War Continues.  Originaly it was fought because of states rights being dictated by a strong central government...simply stated (the wrong side won) And now we must suffer at their hands with 1 hand in our pocket, and the other hand holding the constitution.




hell yea the wrong side won, Man what I wouldnt give for a negro to mow my lawn, and aunt jamama to make me some chicken and pancakes-LOL


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: 2jew4u] * 2
    #14378169 - 04/30/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Okay it would appear that some of you have the wrong idea of what capitalism is.  First off any government which subsidizes a majority of the markets, foods and such, isn't capitalism.  A government that buys out car companies and bails out companies and banks isn't capitalism.  A government which redistributes wealth isn't capitalism.  So how is the drug war driven by capitalism?


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14378279 - 04/30/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

AbstracKt_I_AM wrote:
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You know what fuck the DEA. Let those fucks come to my house. I will have trip wires leading to Semi Auto triggers pointing at my fucking doorway.




Well, if you are in Spain as indicated under your avatar, I doubt you have any worries from the DEA, so your assertion regarding trip wires and guns is simply machismo and empty bravado.

Its the citizens of Amerika that have the fight on their hands, sir.

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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: MidRange]
    #14378362 - 04/30/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Okay it would appear that some of you have the wrong idea of what capitalism is.  First off any government which subsidizes a majority of the markets, foods and such, isn't capitalism.  A government that buys out car companies and bails out companies and banks isn't capitalism.  A government which redistributes wealth isn't capitalism.  So how is the drug war driven by capitalism?




Because the people making shit tons of money in other areas (Pharma, alcohol) have lobbied the government to keep the laws how they are so they can make more money.  What isn't capitalistic about that?  If you look at the drug trade it is completely capitalistic.  Anything that is regulated so the government can make money off of it, is still capitalism, just not pure capitalism.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: ShroomyJohn]
    #14378391 - 04/30/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I believe the term you are looking for if free market capitalism.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: batman returns]
    #14378622 - 04/30/11 04:56 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Capitalism has been hijacked and no longer refers to lassiez faire regulations (read: the absence of regulation) in an economic system.

The same way that "Communism" as it's been practiced in the real world has nothing to do with everyone contributing and people only taking what they need.

Absence of regulation is the best way for a market to flourish.  Absence of all regulations is the best way to make money.

Look at ebay.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: Humility]
    #14378750 - 04/30/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If I were the DOJ I would feel like my intelligence was being insulted by calling the weed stores "compassion centers". The obvious response is "these fuckin potheads think they can sell marijuana by calling themselves compassion centers? Who the fuck do they think we are?"

Not like they'd be any more lenient if they were up front and called themselves weed stores like liquor stores, but I honestly feel like a stupid title like "compassion center" is at best, not legally beneficial so they should drop the bullshit IMO.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: imachavel]
    #14379308 - 04/30/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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how do you spell bouja?





bourgeois?


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
    #14379462 - 04/30/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The simple fact of the matter is, its not up to the Central National Government to make decisions for every individual state based off of the current cabinets point of views of the subject in question. I believe what people here are trying to say is Greed, not capitalism, is driving the drug war...However to defend them too, Capitalism would not be a working form of economic structure without Greed playing a key role.  And realisticly speaking, the only way for the Drug war to be slowed down is on a state level first, where the population has a more direct impact on the current government, Therefor the National Govt is going to do everything in their power to slow down or completely silence the WILLs of the states and the people in the states, their excuse is? ::: We will cut your Money supply if you do..:::We will place massive DEA Stations in your state:::We will make sure you dont get relected:::  The drug war (AKA-The War on American Citizens)  Im done ranting, Have fun reading! :dancer:


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: MidRange]
    #14379707 - 04/30/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Okay it would appear that some of you have the wrong idea of what capitalism is.  First off any government which subsidizes a majority of the markets, foods and such, isn't capitalism.  A government that buys out car companies and bails out companies and banks isn't capitalism.  A government which redistributes wealth isn't capitalism.  So how is the drug war driven by capitalism?




It's called Democracy. The fact of the matter is that, true capitalism will never be popular by the majority, which is why we end up with a mixed system. Does the public really want unrestrained monopolies running the economy? That would be considered true capitalism, and a resounding majority of Americans do not support such a prospect.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: mikehauncho]
    #14380078 - 04/30/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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If I were the DOJ I would feel like my intelligence was being insulted by calling the weed stores "compassion centers". The obvious response is "these fuckin potheads think they can sell marijuana by calling themselves compassion centers? Who the fuck do they think we are?"

Not like they'd be any more lenient if they were up front and called themselves weed stores like liquor stores, but I honestly feel like a stupid title like "compassion center" is at best, not legally beneficial so they should drop the bullshit IMO.



Really? Because if I were in the DOJ and intelligent *not a likely combo in the real world* then i'd ask myself why they named it that and then research a little and see that the Compassion centers comes from Compassionate care for people who have terminal illnesses... those stupid dying potheads...




Since you're from the evil land I escaped to Colorado from, I'll be the "mmj patient" to burst ur bubble. the mmj guise is exactly what the DOJ and dea recognize it as- a guise for legal pot distribution. It should be legal but it's not and these departments see the same thing I do- 130,000 22 yr old snowboarders with "back or headaches" in Colorado alone. Then there's the occasional terminally I'll patient that is an exception. It is what it is man and I've been appalled that they haven't done this kind of shit earlier.

lol compassion centers

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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: LightShedder]
    #14380120 - 04/30/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

And believe me, I have as much or more hatred for these evil organizations as any of you, I just think it isn't helping their case by calling themselves "caregivers" or "compassion centers". lol in Denver, you walk into a given "compassion center" and you'll be greeted by a skateboarder/thug type guy tellin u how "bomb dis new fire shit be dawg". You buy weed, you go hone and smoke it, you get high, it's no big deal.

You forgot about the drug war. All of this mmj shit goes against their war. They won't allow it. No matter what stupid name you try and call it. It is the perfectly moral business of growing/selling cannabis. It's not the "we provide sick cancer patients only with "true medicine" they lie to the Feds with. And if I know it, you bet the Feds do.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: LightShedder]
    #14380177 - 04/30/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

ive been saying it since the day i heard his name, Fuck Obama!


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    #14380183 - 04/30/11 11:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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ive been saying it since the day i heard his name, Fuck Obama!




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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: LightShedder]
    #14381039 - 05/01/11 02:23 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

At least for my comment, you have made the logic error of assuming that when i said capitalism i was referring to the whole Gov. Capitalistic pursuit clearly has compelled the drug war. Capitalist actors perusing greed and lobbied for legislation against drugs. Today the drug war is self sustaining, meaning the police and bureaucracy must capitalize on prohibition to gain funding.

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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: rodfarva]
    #14381084 - 05/01/11 02:37 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Me? I never read your post.

Plus, that doesn't make much sense. I can't even figure out exactly what you mean.
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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: batman returns]
    #14381224 - 05/01/11 03:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Shouldnt he worry about the rednecks killed by this weeks storms, instead of some Weed heads?...



If that's what you would like to talk about, I'm sure you're capable of starting a thread on it. In fact, I'll help you out. Here's a link to begin your charity work, http://www.redcross.org/. Not trying to be a huge prick here, but I feel both topics are worth discussing, in their own rights.



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Shouldnt he worry about the rednecks killed by this weeks storms, instead of some Weed heads?...



If that's what you would like to talk about, I'm sure you're capable of starting a thread on it. In fact, I'll help you out. Here's a link to begin your charity work, http://www.redcross.org/. Not trying to be a huge prick here, but I feel both topics are worth discussing, in their own rights.


im not  trying to be a prick here, I wouldnt give a shit either way. I live in pencilvainia..


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: orison]
    #14382030 - 05/01/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

As more states are legalizin medicinal cannabis, the feds are starting to feel threatened.    Esentially all the medical states are openly telling the feds we are not going to follow your laws


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: veggie]
    #14382095 - 05/01/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry if this has been discussed in this thread, but didn't the Obama admin say medical MJ dispensaries should be left alone?  When did that change and does anyone have a good link explaining why?


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: 5HTSynaptrip]
    #14382131 - 05/01/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If they are targeting "large scale drug traffickers"  then they should focus on doctors, psychiatrist, and pharmaceutical companies.  The last one especially.  But that won't happen because they politicians get money from them.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14382254 - 05/01/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Wow Obama disgusts me.  Ever since he got into office, every single word he uttered about medical marijuana during his election has been a lie.  Not like anything else he said has come true either...


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: Maverick]
    #14382370 - 05/01/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The drug war is driven by capitalism because they make money off of selling legal and illegal drugs. They don't want the average joe doing it to make a quick buck so they murder and put people in jail who do. Capitalism is a horrible idea created by humans and doesn't work, you don't find capitalism anywhere in nature, just in the minds of sheeple.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: sk8fast]
    #14382381 - 05/01/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

By they I mean police and some government officals.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: sk8fast]
    #14382483 - 05/01/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well in comparison, neither does communism.  No direct idea will work, as every person as an individual, even different cultures disagree with absolutism.  Mixed system of both communism, socialism and capitalism, in its correct proportions, along with a few hundred years of The People's modifications, I could see a government system working where people both help each other but can still pursue their own ventures without negating from others in that society. 

It's an idea that is far fetched and won't happen because people like controlling others.  You'd need a society where people are comfortable letting others make their own decisions.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: sk8fast]
    #14382518 - 05/01/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The drug war is driven by capitalism because they make money off of selling legal and illegal drugs. They don't want the average joe doing it to make a quick buck so they murder and put people in jail who do. Capitalism is a horrible idea created by humans and doesn't work, you don't find capitalism anywhere in nature, just in the minds of sheeple.




When you say no where in nature, are you reffering to the organized greed called "capitalism" or to the people who fight to survive and be the strongest at the cost of others? Because everywhere in nature only the strongest survive, and there are plenty of creatures who kill their siblings to get more food from their parents. It is comparable.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #14382587 - 05/01/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thats why i killed my brother, Was for more food, glad it wasnt the bath salts- :wink:


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Thats why i killed my brother, Was for more food, glad it wasnt the bath salts- :wink:





Or money, heaven forbid someone kills someone else for money...


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: Maverick]
    #14383046 - 05/01/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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The drug war is driven by capitalism because they make money off of selling legal and illegal drugs. They don't want the average joe doing it to make a quick buck so they murder and put people in jail who do. Capitalism is a horrible idea created by humans and doesn't work, you don't find capitalism anywhere in nature, just in the minds of sheeple.





yea ok buddy keep smoking your bud and let the rest of us deal with politics.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: Nature Boy]
    #14383251 - 05/01/11 03:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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You know what fuck the DEA. Let those fucks come to my house. I will have trip wires leading to Semi Auto triggers pointing at my fucking doorway.




Well, if you are in Spain as indicated under your avatar, I doubt you have any worries from the DEA, so your assertion regarding trip wires and guns is simply machismo and empty bravado.

Its the citizens of Amerika that have the fight on their hands, sir.

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Lol. Words spewed by my frustration. US of A is my home. I am not a much of a violent person but I would love for a squad team to crack someones door down with that waiting; Instead of some everyday unprepared person sitting in front of their TV minding their own business when it happens as you usually see. Now that would be a raid story I would be happy about reading.

Empty Bravado? Not completely. But I'd prefer only I know what that means at this point.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: AbstraKt_I_Am]
    #14383277 - 05/01/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Someone should set raids like that up all over the country. After like 10 bloody deadly battles taking place over college students selling 3 grams of cannabis, most Americans would surely be ready to compromise an end to prohibition.

It's not like if someone didn't do this, there wouldn't be thousands of deaths as a result of continued prohibition because, there will. So doing so would honestly save lives.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: LightShedder]
    #14384113 - 05/01/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Because the people making shit tons of money in other areas (Pharma, alcohol) have lobbied the government to keep the laws how they are so they can make more money.  What isn't capitalistic about that?  If you look at the drug trade it is completely capitalistic.  Anything that is regulated so the government can make money off of it, is still capitalism, just not pure capitalism.




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A republic government isn't suppose to protect the interest of people and companies, just the rights of (and maybe some neutral things like roads).

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It's called Democracy. The fact of the matter is that, true capitalism will never be popular by the majority, which is why we end up with a mixed system. Does the public really want unrestrained monopolies running the economy? That would be considered true capitalism, and a resounding majority of Americans do not support such a prospect.




America is suppose to be a republic not a democracy.  Democracy IMO is 3 wolves and 1 sheep trying to decide on what to eat for dinner and everyone gets a vote.  With majority rule we all would enjoy such things such as race theory, slavery, and various forums of injustice and rights abuse.  “What's right isn't always popular. What's popular isn't always right,” is a great way to sum it up.

Also would like to trow in that if our government would act more like a republic we wouldn't have a war on drugs and criminalization, because it violates our right to control our body.  Remember rights?  Those fantastic things that really made America a free country, those are a result of a republic government not a democratic one.  We wouldn't have any rights in a true democracy, just the privileges that we are granted by the majority.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: MidRange]
    #14384158 - 05/01/11 06:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you Midrange :thumbup:


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    #14384549 - 05/01/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Just trying to make people love freedom again.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: MidRange]
    #14387437 - 05/02/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

We are 1/2 Republic with a democratic point of view,and you know you have a problem when unfortunantly the saying "and that government of the people, by the people, for the people" no longer holds true to this day. You see, about 80% or more of the American population feel the same way about Marijuana, and that number is rising...If this Govt is of "the people" by the people for the people, then why are they fighting "the people"? The way it works...Honest men corrupted by Money=American peoples suffering. 1% of the American population hold the nations greatest supply of wealth, do you think it is right for 1% to be able to dictate the wills of millions of people? or is it time we admit to being something other than a republican democracy?


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    #14387449 - 05/02/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Just trying to make people love freedom again.




Oh and Freedom is Amazing, but my comparison that i preach to my friends is this statement that i use to compare how our Govt has been treating us for the past 70 years. "What would you be more likely to respond to in a violent way? If someone came up to you and knocked your ass to the ground? or if they gently helped you lay down?" I compare this to our freedoms being slowly taken away...not all at once.


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Re: Obama Administration Threatens Rhode Island Over Medical Marijuana [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #14388997 - 05/02/11 02:40 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Gov Chafee's contact info - (401) 222-2080 governor@governor.ri.gov


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