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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: vandago]
    #14380766 - 05/01/11 01:07 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

For the record, ive never tried k. From what I've researched though, this doesn't sound like someone who is on ketamine.

I should probably stfu though considering I have no experience to relate it to.

It's definitely possible she was snorting small lines of k gradually throughout the night. Possibly even impure k.


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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: LightShedder]
    #14380874 - 05/01/11 01:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

this is why I stick to hallucinogens


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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: LightShedder]
    #14381195 - 05/01/11 03:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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LightShedder said:
For the record, ive never tried k. From what I've researched though, this doesn't sound like someone who is on ketamine.

I should probably stfu though considering I have no experience to relate it to.

It's definitely possible she was snorting small lines of k gradually throughout the night. Possibly even impure k.






Damn newb quoting erowid shit and saying you can determine what a drug feels like by that?

K is unexplainable.  No literature is ever going to prepare you for the granduer that any dissociative is going to bring, and K's is more euphoric then any I've tried.  It can literally have me wandering around like a crab babbling incoherently at nothing.  I've been doing it for almost a decade now, I haven't bought " street k" in years, I assume you mean k thats cut and sold by a dealer? 

LMAO!!!!! STREET K BRO!!!!!!!


And again.  I said less the 100mg for your literature.


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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: vandago]
    #14381223 - 05/01/11 03:45 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Not exactly a "newb", just someone who has no interest in dissociatives. Thanks for the judgement though.

And no, I don't just go by erowid, although I would absolutely take their information as credible before I would you anecdotal experience on, yes "street k". Meanin k I'm assuming you didn't either purify yourself or test the purity yourself after you bought it. I go by gobs and gobs of research I've done on many drugs, particularly ketamine. I've read numerous articles describing the pharmacology/chemistry of ketamine. Ld50, psychoactive dose compared to anesthetic dose compared to lethal dose etc.

And your confused, I don't claim to personally know what ketamine feels like, rather just the dose of pure ketamine needed to be insufflated in order to render one incapable of staying conscious. Someone doesn't have to experience death in order to know if someone else is dead or not. I'm really not even sure how you could think someone experiencing the effects of ketamine would lead to a better understanding of it's pharmacology. Can't say I'm surprised at your level of intellect there however.


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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: LightShedder]
    #14381228 - 05/01/11 03:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:facepalm:


Yes you are a newb.  If you were experienced in using ketamine I wouldn't say it, rook.  Yes I have actually cleaned several batches of ketamine up, one source we cleaned 3 times and it always came out close to the same everytime weight wise so we didn't even bother to clean it anymore.  Erowid is so full of misinformation, and boring over dramatized " trip reports " that seem to be over half minors that wrote them. 


I don't care how many papers you've wrote, or how many trip reports you've read, or how much you've read into the "ketamine facts" but I can assure you....you CAN walk on UNDER 100 mg UP THY NOSE!  Why you are arguing a point that you have no arguments on is just annoying.


You even started your post with a poll in it...."when read like a trip report"...then proceed to ask which drug this sounds like to you?  Trust me, those people were tested at the hospital right away.  If they were on PCP it would've shown up, K would not have unless they were looking for it.  I am 99% sure if it was PCP they would have found it in the blood work, and that would juice this story up way more for the reporter. 


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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: vandago]
    #14381257 - 05/01/11 04:20 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

lol now you say I'm trying to claim I know what substance the people in this story ingested?

You could uphold such an argument with a tennis ball so please stop wasting my time.


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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: LightShedder]
    #14381268 - 05/01/11 04:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Care to detail the methods/solvents used to purify your ketamine?

I'm assuming you used a Mel-temp when it was all said and done with, having such confidence in the purity.

Or are you just goin by your experience with other ketamine?


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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: LightShedder]
    #14381311 - 05/01/11 04:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I'm going by weight of the ketamine before purify vs weight of k after.


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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: LightShedder]
    #14381314 - 05/01/11 04:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

"Yes I have actually cleaned several batches of ketamine up, one source we cleaned 3 times and it always came out close to the same everytime weight wise so we didn't even bother to clean it anymore."

I know what degree of knowledge required to purify/analyze substances to a degree in which you could consider them pure, and I'm reasonably sure you're lacking in it.


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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: LightShedder]
    #14381319 - 05/01/11 04:56 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:  Why don't you make a poll to find out?


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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: vandago]
    #14381348 - 05/01/11 05:19 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nice one!

Care to clarify what exactly I'm gonna find out?


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Re: 26 Year Old Woman Takes A Powerful PCP-Like Animal Tranquilizer & Stabs 2 Girls, One in the Heart [Re: vandago] * 1
    #14381395 - 05/01/11 06:01 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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then start passing the blame of the ketamine to pcp?  Whys it always pcp?  What the fuck has pcp done to any of you to make it that molecular innocent bystander.  I bet he's a real fuckin nice compound if you get to know him, but nahhhhh youd rather just use him as your scape goat if one of your other buddies gets pointed at.






Blame it on race = racist
Blame it on gender = sexist
Blame it on an animal = speciesist
Blame it on a drug = druggist ? :awesome:


PCP most definitely is demonized. And its one of the most beautiful structures of all recreational drugs:



Look at that beauty, doesnt it deserve to be framed and hung in an art gallery?


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