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nycomyco
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: avidpicker]
#14480948 - 05/19/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've been picking tons of ovoids since the weekend in SE PA. Most finds were from piles of wood debri, especially larger collections which back up along trees and limbs that have fallen over the creek. There was however one motherload which was occupying a low flat area next to the creek where there are logs and surely lots of buried wood. Just pushed the march marigolds away and picked with both hands!
The first day I found some monster specimens, thick stems and caps well over 3" and dozens of them, but most of the caps were pretty gnarly, so i had to cut a lot away. Some of the more questionable ones (still not rotting, but weather-beaten) I made into a JET black tea. That first day there hadn't been rain for around a week, so I'm thinking these patches that grow from piles of debris directly over creeks probably prefer to have some time to dry out and the mycelium to recolonize everything before fruiting. That means that next week should be great. After these rains, a lot of the smaller mushrooms I had gone back to pick were pushed over by rushing water so they were harder to spot.
I had a light dose and it was very nice- friends have been partaking and I've been getting wonderful feedback about them. Seems to me they are about 130% the potency of average cubes.
Here are a few pics:

a brainy one:

a deadly galerina very closeby

these became tea

very rhizomorphic mycelium, this will start a new patch a little closer to home
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nycomyco
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: nycomyco]
#14480977 - 05/19/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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also, i don't know what the consensus is on pulling these guys out, but since they're often growing INSIDE piles of debris, it can be hard to snap them off at the base, so most of the time I just pull them up along with a little patch of mycelium, which i then use to seed other spots. I really think this practice is ok (and if you spread the mycelium, even beneficial), considering this species thrives in a highly dynamic environment of wood that's constantly flowing downstream. I think it can handle being torn at a bit. just my two cents.
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: nycomyco]
#14480993 - 05/19/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think you should use scissors, unless you are doing as you suggested and making new patches from the myc. But still you are killing those patches.
That's freakin crazy that you pull them out of debris piles driectly above streams, I've never even seen pics of this. Please take some, lol that would be awesome to see. Awesome finds man. That mutant is a freak! And always know your galerinas
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14481019 - 05/19/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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They are somewhat nomadic in their dispersal via the floodwaters so perhaps this can be of benefit to this species?
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: UK Explorer]
#14481036 - 05/19/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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The flooding is definitely their lifeblood. It creates a "catastrophy" situation that psilocybe loves. These have evolved to colonize a floodzone and also be dispersed by the rivers. The catch seems to be that they really don't like growing away from running water. They will take areas that are alot wetter than other psilocybes like.
They will grow just like a cyan, or an azure though, if put in woodchips and kept properly moist.
And sometimes it sucks, like this year for my area. We had bad flooding and now everything is dispersed and re-colonizing. I have seen a number of "little" patches though, just a few fruits out of flood debris. On the other hand next year should explode.
-------------------- God lay his finger at the Mouth of the Serpent March 1984   A pleasing land of drowsy head it was, Of dreams that wave before the half-shut eye, And of gay castles in the clouds that pass, For ever flushing round a summer sky. -Castle of Indolence
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: ovoidsmurf]
#14481905 - 05/19/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I made tea with 135 grams fresh... many people used this tea, and got to the other side...
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nycomyco
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: smaerd]
#14482274 - 05/20/11 01:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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smaerd said: I made tea with 135 grams fresh... many people used this tea, and got to the other side...
haha, i hope they made it back to this side with some knowledge from the other.
It is beautiful how this species propogates, doing its part to decompose what would otherwise damn up waterways, jumping from point to point as it travels downstream. I can definitely see how serious flooding would prevent mass fruitings, E-In. Hopefully things will dry out and you'll get some exploding patches before it gets too hot.
The first picture is from a pile right above the creek. I'll be sure to take some shots of the whole scene when i return. Ovoids require a unique kind of hunting. You have to walk through the creek, or jump from rock to rock if it's shallow enough. I depend on a walking stick to provide extra support as I traverse slippery branches just above the water.
Returning to the question of damaging the patch by pulling the shrooms up completely, is there any evidence for this- I guess I can see it if you're pulling up pins, but I really think the mycelium is resilient enough to keep it going.
I also have a jar of spore water from rinsing a batch for tea that I will use to colonize woodchips in a city park. The sprinklers should make my life easier.
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: nycomyco]
#14483056 - 05/20/11 06:57 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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nycomyco said:
Returning to the question of damaging the patch by pulling the shrooms up completely, is there any evidence for this- I guess I can see it if you're pulling up pins, but I really think the mycelium is resilient enough to keep it going.
It will definitely keep going (what is left anyway), but I have seen mushrooms fruit less than a cm from where I clipped one another time, (here is an example, if you look close you can see where I snipped the stems of two larger ones I got days before, near the bottom, on either side of the largest shroom in the pic)

they undoubtably would not be there if I had ripped them out and damaged the myc. If this happens enough the patch gets "holes" in it's mycelial mat and is liable to infection, or bugs getting into the deep rooted mycelia. It is definiely a resilient organism though, and would probably pull through unless damaged too much. But it would be weakened and produce less fruits.
There is some debate on this topic, but the above theory just seems too logical to me to dismiss.
Good luck in your ventures as well sir, and I can't wait to see those pics of them growing mid stream.
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Edited by Toe_Jam (05/20/11 07:06 AM)
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Peaceful_Nomad
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: sve]
#14484358 - 05/20/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I am happy to report P. Ovoideocistidiata has been located in Madison County, KY. I have been hunting them here for 4 years without any luck. Found my first patch 2 weeks ago and have located 2 other fruitings, as well. I will post a couple of pics tomorrow.
Good to be back @ the Shroomery. Haven't posted since locating a gregarious fruiting of P. Cubensis in NE Kansas @ a horse stables.
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: Peaceful_Nomad]
#14485982 - 05/20/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Found this beast growing all by itself in some wood mulch today,

   
I should also mention that there was no river or creek anywhere in the vicinity.This was actually found in a neighborhood that sits on top of the valley.This is by far the biggest ovoideocystidiata i have found.
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: avidpicker]
#14486054 - 05/20/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Wow that thing is monstrous! Rivals the size of many wild cubes I have found! Are ovoids more potent?
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: Atlantic Wind]
#14486418 - 05/20/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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some one should be kind enough to PM me about prints so i can spread them
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: nycomyco]
#14486591 - 05/20/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nycomyco, i am also in the SE part of PA, near the susquehanna river. do you have any tips for this specific area?
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: Indian]
#14487093 - 05/20/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Jesus frickin' Christ Avid. You are 100% sure that's an Ovoid right? I know you know your 'Voids but that is the definition of "anomaly". Just throwin' a wild theory out there, perhaps if some spores get blown to an area like that (i.e. no running water) that they recognize as not being the proper habitat the species just thrusts all possible energy/resources into a massive fruit like that so that is may by chance land some spores in the proper habitat and continue it's line.
-------------------- God lay his finger at the Mouth of the Serpent March 1984   A pleasing land of drowsy head it was, Of dreams that wave before the half-shut eye, And of gay castles in the clouds that pass, For ever flushing round a summer sky. -Castle of Indolence
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14488454 - 05/21/11 05:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Woah that's one fat momma! You wanna be cloning that baby!
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14489618 - 05/21/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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E-in Liondragon said: You are 100% sure that's an Ovoid right?
I dont know what else it could be? I walked past this thing and glanced at it and pondered that it could be an ovoid,but thought nah its too big.Then my psilo-senses kicked in and i went back to it knelt down and could definitely smell that smell , and it was strong! I proceeded to pick and as soon as i touched the stem it bruised rapidly,i damn near shit my pants!If someone would like to check out a gill fragment under the scope or something id be happy to send it out.But my conclusion is that this is just a big ass ovoideocystidiata.I told you it would be a good year e -liondragon
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: avidpicker]
#14489929 - 05/21/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i think avid has the record biggun   just imagine the stembutt off that thing
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: sporeRider]
#14490288 - 05/21/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Looking lovely man, hopefully they make their way up to MA eventually. First sunny day here and all I can find are Polyporus squamosus.
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: UnsureSherlock]
#14491365 - 05/21/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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My patches are growing dry. Today I pulled up 3 for the myc (any tips on spawning to cardboard?) and I had to pull a stiltgrass root off the end of the butt. This made me wonder if ovoids can grow in a relationship with grass, like weilii?
Zooming out to show habitat. 

There is a cluster of 3 in the center, then a big rotten one to the upper left. I'm going to blend them up and pour them on something. 
Rotten black ones at the bottom end of debris, then another species to the upper left. 
These two big ones were not visible under the grass until it was cleared. Similar habitat as first cluster in this series, in another location. 
This was the patch growing in stiltgrass.
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Re: **2011 PSILOCYBE OVOIDEOCYSTIDIATA THREAD** [Re: Hygrocybe]
#14491412 - 05/21/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice one, Hygrocybe.
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