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Sage
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Some DMT and Questions.
#14372528 - 04/29/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Now. Ive been a little busy with the MHRB. Here are some piKs I just snapped with my fone.




Very powerful.
Now Ive been introduced to DMT in the past. Loved it but didn't really want to breakthrough. Not until these days of late. Now when i tried It in the past It was very strong but gentle. I did it tell the bag ran out. mb 3 times a day. Now I have some of my own about 2 grams. I tried It for a single 10sec hit. wasn't hard tasting. But OMFG I dont remember it being like the way i felt. LOL i so panic. Thought it was a failure of process. No I just scared the shit out of myself. My whole body was in shock coming down shaking and so wet.
Not Only am I chemically inclined but someone who spends a lot of time indoors and chose to not have "friends" I have family. So I really don't have a spotter per say. I have a GF whos drug free and I think she would freak out watching me dissolving my ego. Questions: 1. Is DMT not just itself but byproducts that come with it Harmful for the human body?(Ingesting through freebase) 2. What would you do if you were a position to breakthrough, but you dont have a babysitter? 3. Think I should Recrystallize my product a couple more times?
Peace\\// Sage-
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Sage]
#14372540 - 04/29/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That crystal looks very pure, I would not worry about byproducts or recrystallizing.
I also wouldn't worry about the sitter, as the duration is very short.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: bholzer]
#14372548 - 04/29/11 01:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh, and as for DMT being harmful, you have nothing to worry about. If you were smoking some naptha with it, it might be bad, but like I said, that's pretty pure stuff.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: bholzer]
#14372582 - 04/29/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Coleman fuel. The reason for me asking is because last night i was alone and I tempted it but something felt like it exploded in my brain my since jumped over board and I smelt blood. I think. or Iron. It felt like my face is blown out this morning and my left eye is red as red. A lil itchy.
Reason for asking Qs.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: bholzer]
#14372599 - 04/29/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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make sure you respect it 
i used to have a lot of respect for dmt. then, one day, -- done it somewhat compulsively, out of boredom; i disrespected it; and it kicked me straight in the balls. the "what did i do, i don't want to die, how could i have been so irresponsible" trip.
respect it. it's a very profound experience.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Sage]
#14372614 - 04/29/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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DMT is known to cause redness and other slight issues, that usually last a day at the longest.
Also, why did you use coleman fuel?
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: bholzer]
#14372620 - 04/29/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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why not? Did research and came to the conclusion of my location and availability of chems it was a reasonable bi-polar solvent to buy a gal for 13$.
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Edited by Sage (04/29/11 01:27 PM)
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Sage]
#14372666 - 04/29/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's notorious for being harder to work with and less pure than naptha.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: bholzer]
#14372679 - 04/29/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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bholzer said: I also wouldn't worry about the sitter, as the duration is very short.
I disagree. Crazy stuff can happen when you smoke DMT. The main reason for having a sitter on DMT though, is because you want someone to take the smoking device from you.
That way you can't smoke until you can anymore, then just lay back. You don't have to worry about setting down your pipe, which I have found almost impossible to do by myself.
Edited by Aser (04/29/11 01:44 PM)
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Aser]
#14380158 - 04/30/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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bholzer said: It's notorious for being harder to work with and less pure than naphtha.
What do you mean harder to work with. I didn't use naphtha because I could only get the lighter fluid type. Rumors are that the lighter fuel leaves a taste that stays with the trip. Also what purity differences are you referring to with naphtha and would it be possible to sent me your reference page
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bholzer said: I also wouldn't worry about the sitter, as the duration is very short.
I disagree. Crazy stuff can happen when you smoke DMT. The main reason for having a sitter on DMT though, is because you want someone to take the smoking device from you.
That way you can't smoke until you can anymore, then just lay back. You don't have to worry about setting down your pipe, which I have found almost impossible to do by myself.
I agree with you bholzer.
That pipe becomes invisible after you get to a point. I also feel that I might need to be reminded about: Time, Place, and that im still human feeling an experience. Not saying I couldn't do all this on my own, Nor am I saying that I am a professional when it comes to an experience. I'm Just Human.
Personally I have smoked dmt in the past and present. I enjoy The experience and everything. I just don't know if I can "let go". I Know i am capable of taking the smoke to get there. The question that stares at me after is what I am nervous of. I'm sure this would be easyer if someone would watch my body while I leave. What can I say I have comfort issues with my brain. I think too much.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Sage]
#14380194 - 04/30/11 11:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you want to check the purity of your solvent, you can put some a drop on a CD or something glass. If after it is all evaporated off there is no visible trace, you know that it evaporates off cleanly and you can use it for extraction.
If on the other hand it leaves some residue behind, you shouldn't use it, because that residue will end up in your finished product.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Aser]
#14381312 - 05/01/11 04:51 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Aser said: If you want to check the purity of your solvent, you can put some a drop on a CD or something glass. If after it is all evaporated off there is no visible trace, you know that it evaporates off cleanly and you can use it for extraction.
If on the other hand it leaves some residue behind, you shouldn't use it, because that residue will end up in your finished product.
Residue: 0%
The product IMO is sound. Its the Human im worried about.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Sage]
#14381401 - 05/01/11 06:06 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I never have a sitter. I've been doing this for years and only shared one trip with someone else.
Altough that was a wonderful experience, going on a voyage is one of selfdiscovery and having a person there is distracting to me.
I realise everyone is different, and if you're unsure as to how you'd react it may be wise to seek out someone you trust, but otherwise:
[this is totally IMO] you don't go someplace else when you break-through. Everything you experience are associations, memories, fears and desires already present in your mind. Ego-death does not exist in the sense that YOU die, it simply means that the bounderies that were put in place by you, your upbringing and society dissolve, and you are left to experience the totality of your subconscious.
If you are not ready for this do not attempt to break-through. Allow yourself time and low dose-trips to familiarize yourself with.. yourself.
To slay your demons is the greatest gift you can give yourself, but it takes courage. You have a lifetime to do this, so relax.. you'll be fine.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: ephrem]
#14381470 - 05/01/11 06:35 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ephrem said: I never have a sitter. I've been doing this for years and only shared one trip with someone else.
Altough that was a wonderful experience, going on a voyage is one of selfdiscovery and having a person there is distracting to me.
I realise everyone is different, and if you're unsure as to how you'd react it may be wise to seek out someone you trust, but otherwise:
[this is totally IMO] you don't go someplace else when you break-through. Everything you experience are associations, memories, fears and desires already present in your mind. Ego-death does not exist in the sense that YOU die, it simply means that the bounderies that were put in place by you, your upbringing and society dissolve, and you are left to experience the totality of your subconscious.
If you are not ready for this do not attempt to break-through. Allow yourself time and low dose-trips to familiarize yourself with.. yourself.
To slay your demons is the greatest gift you can give yourself, but it takes courage. You have a lifetime to do this, so relax.. you'll be fine.
Very well put.
Im not questioning myself as much
Im on a good mushroom float so far.
Listening to the new gorillaz album The Fall and tools 10,000 days.
Should I try to break while on mushrooms?
Nothing close to fear can touch me right now I fell.
Thanks \\//
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Edited by Sage (05/01/11 06:36 AM)
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Sage]
#14381476 - 05/01/11 06:40 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should do what you want to do.
Accept what is shown to you as a gift.
Don't fear or hesitate.
And try not to worry about the initial bodyload; it'll pass.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: ephrem]
#14381492 - 05/01/11 06:47 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Much Gratitude Peace\\//
Here I go.
Ill leave a report in the after glows.
I love Everything and All
Godspeed.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Sage]
#14383643 - 05/01/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sage said:
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Aser said: If you want to check the purity of your solvent, you can put some a drop on a CD or something glass. If after it is all evaporated off there is no visible trace, you know that it evaporates off cleanly and you can use it for extraction.
If on the other hand it leaves some residue behind, you shouldn't use it, because that residue will end up in your finished product.
Residue: 0%
The product IMO is sound. Its the Human im worried about.
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If you are worried about messing up, don't use lye. I use pickling lime (calcium hydroxide) to basify the solution. It is food safe, so you don't have to worry about getting unsafe chemicals in your product if you mess up.
There is also a citrus based solvent you can use. D-limonene or something like that. It is supposedly safe as well.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Aser]
#14383790 - 05/01/11 05:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice. What tek did you use for extraction?
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: OneU]
#14384031 - 05/01/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OneU said: Nice. What tek did you use for extraction?
Is that directed at me or the OP?
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Aser]
#14384250 - 05/01/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OP. I am in seeking a good technique for extraction. So many varieties, I'm looking for one that will allow for clear healthy crystals.
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: OneU]
#14391010 - 05/02/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I used many straight to base teks. No specific one. No personal favorite. Nothing like human memory loss. I liked all of them because they were all so very useful.
Simply put. I Did this. If you know anyone who plans on doing this PLEASE ADVISE USE OF: *Goggles *Gloves *Proper Masks such for painting. *Proper Tools like Pipettes and Laboratory Equipment *Proper ventilation unit and fans *Have a basic knowledge on chemicals. *Do plenty of research On the process's. *Ask Questions *Share with your friends.
X Amount Lye X Amount Distilled Water X Amount Mimosa Hostilis Inner Root Bark or MHRB Mixed all above into a Erlenmeyer flask or a Tempered glassware of sorts. Instead of a scientific heat source I used an old coffee pot that barely reaches the desired boil point one wants the Naphtha/Fuel (Non-polar solvent) at.
I used X amount Coleman Fuel as the non-polar solvent. I then did whats called emulsion. Which is just vigorously shaking. I did this over a 24hr span I know I could have stopped sooner. I like to be thorough.
I then let the whole mixture sit with a vent lid on it, for lets say 3-4 hrs. 3 mb 4 episodes of Rome went by. Then in the later time when dust settles from the day I Then went in to my lab with proper vents/and or fans. Started to pull the 1st about 250ml of yellow Dmt\solvent from the glassware I was using. I Repeated this using less Coleman fuel (-1/5ml) each pull. The 1st - 4th pulls were all I really needed.
With the yellow liquid left from the pulls I made two batches. One came out nasty yellow and quite dark. The other which as a quite larger (2.34Grams) in contrast to the (.31Gram) Yellow. I did a fairly difficult purification I learned from a friendly shroomerite (whos name flees me)response. Also learned from some trials and errors.
What I did was freezer precipitation to cold crystallization in fridge. Back and forth. When it started to form crystals I would then take the platter and run ice cold distilled water over the plate to wash the fat from it(where I am located its easier to get distilled water than Ammonia). Then I would gather the crystal after drying and use an equal amount of solvent to the amount of crystal. Heated just enough to where the pure crystal (clear bubbles) and the fat (yellow bubbles) would separate at the base of the dish. I would then using a pipette; extract the clear bubbles and discard the yellow. Now it takes practice and a little patience on your part to get this right. I have faith in my work now that I see my product and success with this project. You should also be able to make it look nice.
Now with my pure DMT crystals I would freezer precipitate then cold recrystallize while using a fan (12v Computer fan works great) at the same time. Do this as many times as you please. I spent a couple days(2) to get mine to have as little noticeable yellow discoloration(as much one can my way at least). Now I would recommend my way. I am no professional at this time. I am a Human. Humans make errors. Not to mention the countless Shroomerites with countless techniques/ methods shown to prevail in this type of science.
Thank you Peace \\//
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Re: Some DMT and Questions. [Re: Sage]
#14391058 - 05/02/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh nice, thank you. Seems like a phase 2 kind of thing for me as I don't know much of what you were referring to but thanks anyways!
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