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Artman223
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Pan Foes?
#14372434 - 04/29/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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So after all this crazy weather here in southern Middle TN, I found these guys growing nearby. I was almost certain that they were pan foes, But the spore print is jet black... Any idea? I thought that subbs were rare in grass? Here are some pics to give you some idea.


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norm
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I found a bunch of mushrooms that looked just like this last summer in Idaho. Looked like foes but black spore print, teensy stems, same habitat, etc.
Anyway, I decided they must've been subbs and ate like 8 grams dry, but no effects. I'm starting to think they were a different species of Panaeolus, maybe Olivaceous?
Edited by norm (04/29/11 12:42 PM)
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Ieponumos
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Re: Pan Foes? [Re: norm]
#14372506 - 04/29/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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They look like subbs or olivacues IMO, especially with the spore print. When you picked them ,did the stem change color? IF so, to what?
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Artman223
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Thanks guys! Honestly, I didnt notice but I was busy trying to clean up my yard from all the downed branches and stuff and saw these in my neighbors yard. I will go pick one and see. How fast does the change usually occur?
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Looks like Panaeolus cinctulus, at least the specimen that left that spore print.
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Ieponumos
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Artman223 said: Thanks guys! Honestly, I didnt notice but I was busy trying to clean up my yard from all the downed branches and stuff and saw these in my neighbors yard. I will go pick one and see. How fast does the change usually occur?
Not more than a couple minutes. Subbs/olives often get a red bruising like


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Artman223
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Thanks for the pics leponumos... They definitely turn a darker brownish-red where cut and pinched.
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Artman223
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If these are subbs or olivacues growing in grass would the potency still be noticable? I have heard that subbs in grass are usually weaker IIRC...
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i dont know where you herd that subbs are rare in grass. i only find subbs in grass and yes they are just as potent.
in my oppinion they are without a doubt subbs but im no TI
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applesmasher420 said: i dont know where you herd that subbs are rare in grass. i only find subbs in grass and yes they are just as potent.
in my oppinion they are without a doubt subbs but im no TI
The look like Panaeolus to me.
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I just hope they are potent!!! Hunting Isn't as good as it could be around here. Ive seen few cubes but only down southwest Tn and I have heard that P.caerulipes and P.ovoideocystidiata grow in the state but have yet to ever see anyone who has indeed found them So far the only active species I have witnessed myself in this state is G. aeruginosus. Hopefully this year brings better luck!!!
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Artman223 said: I just hope they are potent!!! Hunting Isn't as good as it could be around here. Ive seen few cubes but only down southwest Tn and I have heard that P.caerulipes and P.ovoideocystidiata grow in the state but have yet to ever see anyone who has indeed found them So far the only active species I have witnessed myself in this state is G. aeruginosus. Hopefully this year brings better luck!!!
Potent? Sorry bro, no dice. Active? Yes. Even when I did those olivaceus, the effects did not outweigh the nausea induced by them. That also could be the fact that I ingested pesticides, but regardless they aren't going to be strong enough to work by themselves. Find 30 grams of fresh material and you'll get a trip most likely.
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good luck! 
if your not sure on dosages use the shroomery dosage calculator http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator
as potency varies between species ^_^
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applesmasher420 said: good luck! 
if your not sure on dosages use the shroomery dosage calculator http://www.shroomery.org/6257/Magic-Mushroom-Dosage-Calculator
as potency varies between species ^_^
And it varies from specimen to specimen, too.
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Potent? Sorry bro, no dice. Active? Yes. Even when I did those olivaceus, the effects did not outweigh the nausea induced by them. That also could be the fact that I ingested pesticides, but regardless they aren't going to be strong enough to work by themselves. Find 30 grams of fresh material and you'll get a trip most likely.
from my experience 4 - 5 grams of dry cincts does me good ^_^ and i didnt have any sort of nausea but then again neither do cubes. but ive seen some of my friends get naucious from them.
also their good for you they contain 5 htp serotonin
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Guess I'll pass on that one lol... Doesn't sound very appealing. Looks like I'll keep hunting for the caerulipes and ovoideocystidiata if they're really there lol
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And it varies from specimen to specimen, too.
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looks like a cinctulus to me due to the dark spore print. Now go pick at least another 50+
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I guess 5 grams isnt too bad lol Ill save it for if all else fails lol. Would it be equal to 5 grams of cubes? I think I remember reading MJ saying somewhere that they were of about equal potency dried??
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Artman223 said: I guess 5 grams isnt too bad lol Ill save it for if all else fails lol. Would it be equal to 5 grams of cubes? I think I remember reading MJ saying somewhere that they were of about equal potency dried??
They are comparable, yes.
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Artman223
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Thats just so many little dried shrooms lol I could see how that could be bothersome. Im a firm believer of trying everything once though
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Artman223 said: I guess 5 grams isnt too bad lol Ill save it for if all else fails lol. Would it be equal to 5 grams of cubes? I think I remember reading MJ saying somewhere that they were of about equal potency dried??
5 grams of cincts is more like 2 or 2.5 grams of cubes
but as previously stated potency will always vary
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Artman223 said: Thats just so many little dried shrooms lol I could see how that could be bothersome. Im a firm believer of trying everything once though 
yeah just wait till you taste them lol i love the taste of cubes but cincts are by far the worst tasting dry mushroom ive ever eaten haha
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I've eaten 10 grams of lawn cincts and wouldn't compare it to 3.5 of any cubes I've had. They are a weird little fungi, usually active in the 5-6 gram range, seemingly kinder than cubes but still full of magic potential. Keep hunting man!
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Artman223
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Cool I appreciate all the help guys!!!Now I just need more
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creationdivine said: I've eaten 10 grams of lawn cincts and wouldn't compare it to 3.5 of any cubes I've had. They are a weird little fungi, usually active in the 5-6 gram range, seemingly kinder than cubes but still full of magic potential. Keep hunting man! 
mhhmm i grow my own cubes and they grow in almost every lawn in my town so i usually just pass them by lol but ill take them everyonce in a while :]
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Artman223 said: Cool I appreciate all the help guys!!!Now I just need more
get out their i guarentee you if you walk around for an hour you will find at least enough for a dose theese things grow everywhere lol
the only donside is printing them all afterwards -_- foes and cincts grow so close sometimes :p
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If you do not like the idea of eating a handful of little mushrooms to get the desired effect you can always brew it into a tea.. it may help with the nausea as well. 
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Thats a great Idea! Thanks Oreganic!!!
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