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Making your shroom trips more spiritual.
    #14372025 - 04/29/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So I've tripped quite a few times now on shrooms,salvia and DXM. (which I don't quote consider a trip. More of a head drunk.) and I'm curious as to how I'd go about making my trips more spiritual or divine. Anything helps. Thanx guyss


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 509 tripper]
    #14372057 - 04/29/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

meditate


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 509 tripper]
    #14372061 - 04/29/11 10:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Take a larger dose, around 6+ grams, smaller doses hang around the party zone. You just gotta hit your grove, it's not tsomething you can just achieve because you want to imo. That being said if you take a large dose, the probability increases a 100 fold.

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14372080 - 04/29/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Take Terance McKenna's suggestion and eat 5g in a pitch dark, quiet room and then come back and tell us your trip wasn't spiritual.

:tmckenna:

Honestly... Go on a solo trip, up your dose to a little more than you usually eat, and go lay down in a dark room and meditate.

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 509 tripper]
    #14372101 - 04/29/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Intention that's what makes the difference.

You must want to go deep, and you must not fear what lies in store for you.

Be open, fearless, willing, patient, prepared, humble, clean and alone.

Don't eat 6 hours prior to the trip. No other drugs, except for cigarettes maybe.

Take a large dose. Larger than normal.

Good luck.

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 509 tripper]
    #14372475 - 04/29/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would suggest the following book:

http://www.amazon.com/Mushroom-Wisdom-Cultivate-Spiritual-Consciousness/dp/1579510361

My girlfriend got me a copy for my birthday and it was a very interesting
read. This author has some very strong opinions some of which I do not
personally agree with, but the book has a lot of good points and ideas
for making the ingestion of magic mushrooms a ritualistic spiritual
experience. I would highly suggest this book to anyone who is interested
in spirituality and mushrooms.

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 509 tripper]
    #14372511 - 04/29/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Take Terance McKenna's suggestion and eat 5g in a pitch dark, quiet room and then come back and tell us your trip wasn't spiritual.

:tmckenna:

Honestly... Go on a solo trip, up your dose to a little more than you usually eat, and go lay down in a dark room and meditate.




This.

Another thing to remember is that psychedelic experiences are reflections of your own personality. So engaging in spiritual/philosophical thoughts and doing a fair amount of meditating while not tripping should greatly increase the "spiritual effects" of good ol' shroomies.

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: Dawks]
    #14372658 - 04/29/11 01:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Can't think of a more spiritual trip than on a beautiful day, out on a nice hike surrounded by nature, totally emersed in all of its glory and magnificence...You'll definitely come out of that trip a lot more spiritual, and respectful of the beauty of life! Have fun my friend!


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: ephrem]
    #14372697 - 04/29/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ephrem said:
Intention that's what makes the difference.

You must want to go deep, and you must not fear what lies in store for you.

Be open, fearless, willing, patient, prepared, humble, clean and alone.

Don't eat 6 hours prior to the trip. No other drugs, except for cigarettes maybe.

Take a large dose. Larger than normal.

Good luck.




I somewhat agree here, but it sometimes is just luck of the draw.  Sometimes a spiritual trip finds you!


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: LanLord]
    #14372715 - 04/29/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yup.

Large dose is pretty much guaranteed to produce one, not saying it will necessarily be a positive experience though.

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14373022 - 04/29/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you take larger doses they tend to become more spiritual, for me anyway.

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: LanLord]
    #14373045 - 04/29/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

LanLord said:
Quote:

ephrem said:
Intention that's what makes the difference.

You must want to go deep, and you must not fear what lies in store for you.

Be open, fearless, willing, patient, prepared, humble, clean and alone.

Don't eat 6 hours prior to the trip. No other drugs, except for cigarettes maybe.

Take a large dose. Larger than normal.

Good luck.




I somewhat agree here, but it sometimes is just luck of the draw.  Sometimes a spiritual trip finds you!




Ofcourse it does matter what the OP means with "spiritual".

I gave my opinion based on my understanding of what it means to have a spiritual mushroom voyage.

If he wants it, he'll get it.

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: Ferdinando]
    #14373604 - 04/29/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I find when you become more "spiritual" yourself(in your day to day sober waking reality) then it reflects in the trips you take, I see reality as sort of a mental mirror in that it reflects your internal state(mood, thoughts, etc) back at you.When you have a naturally spiritual outlook on life it just kind of finds it's way into everything you do, including your trips.

But I don't know if it's something you can just make spiritual, I mean I think you can almost awaken to the idea of spirituality(even though that means different things to different people). But I don't think you can just make your trips more spiritual if they weren't before.

But this is all just IME and there are always exceptions. Hell I would be willing to bet that 1 spiritual trip when you have had none before could lead to a sense of spirituality in everyday life and therefore carry over onto future trips(drug induced and non drug induced). I dunno I'm rambling lol.

Edited by kundalini1123 (04/29/11 04:50 PM)

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 509 tripper]
    #14373956 - 04/29/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's easy to have a spiritual trip.  First, I'd say ayahuasca is definitely the drug of choice to bring about such experiences.  Other psychedelics seem to hover on the edges, aya effortlessly and consistently brings you right to the core of it.  Second, all you need to do is spend a few hours reading your favorite mystical/spiritual/religious book of choice.  Do this before your trip.  I can't guarantee it, but I'd bet money that an ayahuasca trip taken after a few hours of reading the Bible, Koran, or favorite Buddhist text would provide you with exactly what you are looking for. 

I felt the exquisite pain of Mexican housemaids working for rich Americans during a trip after reading a sociology study on the subject.  I vacuumed the house and literally cried at the treatment they receive.  That was a powerful moment.

For some mindless fun, read some Superman comic books before an ayahuasca episode.  I'd predict that you would have a mystical experience dealing with the dualistic nature of Clark Kent and Superman.  You'd probably feel the objective Evil of Lex Luther and realize that it's really all about Love in the end.  Whether it is the love of Lois Lane or the American way, you'd feel it down to the depths of your soul as if God himself delivered the message to you.  You'd swear there really is a Metropolis and hate those smarmy, arrogant, closed-minded fools who spout opinions saying its all nonsense.


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14374071 - 04/29/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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5g in a pitch dark




I have to go with this one. It has never failed me yet.

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 1983]
    #14374099 - 04/29/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Fasting is underrated.


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 1983]
    #14374585 - 04/29/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

Synthettek said:
5g in a pitch dark




I have to go with this one. It has never failed me yet.





These guys know whatsup, well if you're seeking something beyond the body... 5+g in the dark never fail to make me OBE or astral project. See you on the other side

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: 509 tripper]
    #14374743 - 04/29/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Large dose.
In the dark
Alone.
Feel the breath, everything that connects it.
Allow yourself to slowly sink into the multiverse that you were born into

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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: Smeeeeg]
    #14375342 - 04/29/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm just gonna repost what I said in an earlier thread on basically the same topic.

Here's my basic outline of what I do when I'm delving into a "serious" psychedelic experience:

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    [TL,DR: Clean your house, clean your body, clean your mind, do rituals, dose high]

    1. Set aside a time and space where you can trip alone with NO distractions whatsoever. Plan for this ahead of time, and do whatever kinds of purifications/abstentions you feel are necessary (stop smoking/drinking/masturbating/coffee/meat/dairy/etc. whatever is important for you)

    2. The day of. Wake up early and eat a light, healthy breakfast, fruits and nuts or whatev, and then eat nothing else for the rest of the day but water/juice and maybe vitamins. Don't get high or intoxicated all day.

    3. Clean the fuck out of your space. Imagine you were going to have God visit your house. How would you want it to look and smell? Ya dig? Prepare your space and make it appropriate for something sacred.

    4. Make preparations for whatever rituals you choose. I personally have a small alter with candles, incense, Buddha statue, bells, crystals, etc. I get all the blankets and pillows in the house and make a comfortable "launch pad" in front of this alter for me to trip out on.

    5. Bathe. Make your body clean. Shave if that is something that makes you feel clean. Hell, if you really want to go all out you can even shave your head. Do yoga, stretch, and make sure your body feels good.

    6. Set your intentions. Once the house is clean, and my body is clean, I begin meditation and prayer/chanting before I dose. This gets me into a sacred mindspace before the trip even begins. Also, this can help purge your mind of a lot of anxieties and worries so that they don't come up unexpected while you're tripping. Make your mind clean. You can do this through rituals also, like smudging with sage, or writing down your intentions and binding them with a string and putting them on your alter, or writing down your worries and then burning them.

    7. Dose. Dose a LOT. Take at least 5g. Get into some comfortable clothes. Turn off the lights completely or just have a candle burning. Be in silence, be in darkness.

    8. Continue meditating/chanting, or doing whatever rituals you like until the trip kicks in. I like to chant mantras and count mala beads.

    9. Trip balls. Keep the lights off. Keep it silent. If shit gets real heavy you can have some mellow music on standby. It should be something awe inspiring. Vomiting can be a good spiritual purge.

    10. Come down. Eat something hardy and nutritious like some spaghetti and vegetables. Your body will be craving food.

    11. Integrate. Do something chill that brings you back into reality but still respects the profound experience you had. Draw, make music, watch a trippy/profound video, write down any realizations, etc. Smoke some herb. Integration may extend into the next day if your experience was that intense. Make sure your next day is free and you won't be bothered if you need it to yourself.




    That's basically how I do it, without the details of my actual rituals. It's kind of free form really. Just imagine what you think it would take to do something sacred and create it. Your intention is the most important thing, and the rituals just help to direct and focus that intention.



I feel like the most important element of this method is the intense focusing of intention by preparing your environment. Even though you are going to be tripping in silent darkness, you want to spend all day cleaning your environment and body to emphasize how serious you are taking the experience. Having the "launch pad" of blankets and pillows in front of an alter creates the center point for all of this focus, and creates a space where you can stay the entire trip and be comfortable, rather than getting restless and feeling like you need to wander around and distract yourself.

The other really important element of all this is staying sober all day, and even the day before. Dulling your senses with other drugs/alcohol makes for a dulled trip. You want your mind to be fresh and awake and totally ready to take on the trip.


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Re: Making your shroom trips more spiritual. [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #14375437 - 04/29/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm going to echo the suggestion to  eat a large dose and go sit in a dark room and close your eyes.


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