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fresh or aged dung?
    #1437148 - 04/07/03 08:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Seems most folks have it in mind that your dung must be aged, dried, rehydratated, etc. Well I've been using it fresh with equally fine results. Not fresh steamers but still moist. I do of course pasteurize. So what is the word. What is better fresh or aged?


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: hermes3]
    #1437172 - 04/07/03 08:34 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

it is my understanding that aged is a bit safer since leaching out ammonia is unneccesary and also the bacteria your aiming to keep has been strongly established. fresh works perfectly well as you well know.


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: hermes3]
    #1437281 - 04/07/03 09:04 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Just be very careful while harvesting the fresh turds, cow poo can cause deadly infections in humans.


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: hermes3]
    #1437320 - 04/07/03 09:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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    #1437452 - 04/07/03 10:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

LoL!!!! that's got me cracking up!


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: hermes3]
    #1437477 - 04/07/03 10:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

NO,when it's wet or even moist it stinks.If you dry it and leach it,it has no smell.


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1437623 - 04/07/03 11:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Never had a problem with the odor. I pasteurize outside though. The ammonia comments make sense but pasteurizing entails leaching and my dung source isn't some horse prison where the brothers stand all day in there own piss. The microbe activity of aged dung makes sense but how much activity is the in some dehydrated, aged crap. It seems the preference for aged/dried dung might be a habit more than anything.


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: hermes3]
    #1438598 - 04/08/03 09:38 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

you know how aged dung starts to turn white? that is not just the dung you are seeing. i know because i have taken very fresh dung and dried it within a couple days and it is brown/green as can be. the white is the bacteria your wanting. whatsit called? foxfire, firetail? wtf, i can't remember.


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: hermes3]
    #1438606 - 04/08/03 09:41 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

fresh steamers




^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
hahahaha

i see alot of those around where i live!


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: debianlinux]
    #1439066 - 04/08/03 01:30 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

How do you dry it? Artifically ala oven or nuke? Any dung I use fresh or dry is ala'carte. Fresh from the pile or sun/air dried. I have noted the fine white minuitae but wonder of their benifits. I will continue to compare and contrast fresh vs. aged but perhaps the key is good clean poop regardless of the age. Would not in nature a spore prefer something nice and warm?


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: hermes3]
    #1439551 - 04/08/03 03:51 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i have dried in the sun/air and in a box with a fan. i have discovered that it is a good idea to break the poo up as it dries which makes screening it far easier. i actually use a combination of aged and fresh poo as i just take off across the pasture picking up whatever i come up on until my bag is full.


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: debianlinux]
    #1439686 - 04/08/03 04:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Pretty much my technique. I'll gather some from the farms and when I'm in the city I get a bushel or two from the police horse stables. What I don't use fresh I spread for the sun and wind to dry. What I like about the fresh is it's ease of handling. No need to crumble, sift, rehydrate. Just grab some, break it up, put it in your pillow case, pasteurize, cool and drain, mix your rye grain, cover, warm, and wait.


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: hermes3]
    #1440355 - 04/08/03 08:38 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

lol.. usin cop horse poop.


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: debianlinux]
    #1441070 - 04/09/03 12:24 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

whatsit called? foxfire, firetail?




I call it actinomyces.

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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: Joshua]
    #1441189 - 04/09/03 12:52 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

lol.. a little off


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: Joshua]
    #1442524 - 04/09/03 12:14 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I call it fire fang


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: hermes3]
    #1442544 - 04/09/03 12:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

fresher poop has empirically stalled, contamed
or just plain not begun to colonize more often
than not...

when using fresh(er) poop, this dude I know
suggests 'cutting' it with (a little more) straw.


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: afoaf]
    #1443373 - 04/09/03 04:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I'll keep an eye on my trays. Keep in mind by fresh I don't mean caught right from the arse before the plop hits the ground. I mean moist and prior to any drying. I haven't noticed any date stamps on the horse turds. I used to use dry and milled dung but to save myself some effort I tried to eliminate the drying step and have been having excellent results. I pasteurize then colonize.


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: hermes3]
    #1443658 - 04/09/03 05:56 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I just try to get the dryer shit. Ive used wet poo 2 times and iot worked just fine!


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Re: fresh or aged dung? [Re: hermes3]
    #1443750 - 04/09/03 06:22 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

bottom line, keep doing what works for you, ya know?


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