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Eshu
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Agoraphobia
#14368957 - 04/28/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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So the Klonopin is taking away my anxiety. I can go into wal mart now without having a panic attack.
However. I went outside today, and just felt scared. I walked awkwardly, and with my head down.
I didn't feel any anxiety though. I just had a general feeling wanting to crawl back into the cave known as my room.
Should the Klonopin be helping with this or is it mainly just for anxiety... isn't agoraphobia a form of anxiety?
sorry I've been dumping a lot of my issues here lately guys. You just all give great advice, and have good insight.
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Re: Agoraphobia [Re: Eshu]
#14368964 - 04/28/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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take ecstasy if u want to counter agora
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Re: Agoraphobia [Re: Coaster]
#14369013 - 04/28/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is technically anxiety, but i think it is more of a you thing, the meds are mainly just for panic attacks, and to help you calm.
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Re: Agoraphobia [Re: Coaster]
#14369041 - 04/28/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Coaster said: take ecstasy if u want to counter agora
Ecstasy didnt help me at all, even pure MDMA.
I don't know what your doctor has you doing, but mine only has me take Klonopin when I was having a panic attack, never daily, to keep my tolerance down. For the long term, she gave me an anti-depressant (Paxil). The first few months where rough and I had to use my Klonopin a quite a few times(but with a very low tolerance, it worked like a charm always), but after the Paxil really started kicking in I started to feel alot better. I haven't had a panic attack in about a month.
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Re: Agoraphobia [Re: Eshu]
#14369043 - 04/28/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Your tolerance to the klonopin is probably already making them less effective even though you've only been on them for a few days. I run out of my benzos every month 2 weeks early and the first day or two when i fill them again I get that complete anxiety/agoraphobia relief and can go anywwhere without my anxiety but after that I still feel anxious when i take em and dont wanna leave the house.
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Do you have Agoraphobia because you fear for your safety?
The way I look at it is this: when we were young that mentality helped us stay out of trouble, now that we are older it keeps doing it and its not helpful to us anymore, so in a way you have to talk to yourself about it and get back in the "moment"
Sounds weird but thats how I relate to what your talking about
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Re: Agoraphobia [Re: Eshu]
#14369108 - 04/28/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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as an agoraphobic myself, i would say that the klonopin helps with it to an extent, but some days you really just don't want to or can't physically make yourself go more than 20ft out your front door. the only thing i've found to help is forcing myself to go that extra foot and try my best to control how awkward it feels to be not at home.
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Quote:
Rectangle 3D said: Do you have Agoraphobia because you fear for your safety?
The way I look at it is this: when we were young that mentality helped us stay out of trouble, now that we are older it keeps doing it and its not helpful to us anymore, so in a way you have to talk to yourself about it and get back in the "moment"
Sounds weird but thats how I relate to what your talking about
Oh shit, I had a nutty flashback when I read that......
I feel like I have heard those words before
But anyway....
I've had pretty rough anxiety since middle-school but recently exercising and weightlifting has worked a miracle.
Taking a break from the herb definitely has its advantages when dealing with society and being out in public.
I could say I had agoraphobia, but it just seems easier to call it anxiety.
Good luck dude! Look within!!
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Re: Agoraphobia [Re: cbhead23] 1
#14369326 - 04/28/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was mildly agoraphobic for a while. I literally wouldn't leave the house unless I was drunk or if I was going to the store to buy beer or liquor.
Found a doc that specializes in anxiety and am taking Klonopin and Xanax for the past 5-6 months. I can now go out and talk to my neighbors, I can go to the store and shop for groceries and I can get my hair cut without pounding beers in the parking lot before hand.
I know it sounds weird, but I couldn't even get my hair cut unless I drank alcohol. I know alcohol is a really shitty way to curb anxiety, but it works very well short term. Unfortunately the come down ends up causing more anxiety.
But I'm proud to say I've only drank 3 times since January. That's pretty good for a self admitted alcoholic.
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Taking that relatively large dose of a benzo everyday is gonna come back and fuck you in the ass if you intend to stop them at some point and not be a lifer, your rebound anxiety is going to be 10x worse than any youve ever experienced. Shit I get terrible rebound anxiety when I take my scripted benzos only 2 weeks in a row without a break i would hate to be on daily doses of benzos for long periods and then stop.
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Re: Agoraphobia [Re: Eshu]
#14369440 - 04/28/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I haven't answered any of my friend's phone calls for about 2 weeks now. They stopped calling a few days ago.
I just don't feel like doing anything. But I think it's depression for me though.
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PeterGriffin467 said: Taking that relatively large dose of a benzo everyday is gonna come back and fuck you in the ass if you intend to stop them at some point and not be a lifer, your rebound anxiety is going to be 10x worse than any youve ever experienced. Shit I get terrible rebound anxiety when I take my scripted benzos only 2 weeks in a row without a break i would hate to be on daily doses of benzos for long periods and then stop. 
My doctor has a very good taper plan when and if I ever decide to stop using them. He's been treating people with severe anxiety/panic disorder since they were still using barbiturates. He knows his shit.
I'm about to ween completely off the Xanax in the next few months, gradually. Might have to increase the Klonopin a bit, but I don't give a shit. I haven't been to the ER for a massive panic attack in nearly 6 months. It's an amazing feeling to not have to constantly worry about having an attack at any moment. And mine last for hours (or at least until I get enough benzos in my system). I envy the people that just pass out from attacks.
But anyways, I attend NA meetings at least 6 times a week, I've stopped drinking or doing any other drugs. I feel almost content. Not quite there yet, there's still years bad decisions to make peace with, but for right now I'm doing alright.
Gonna go camping tomorrow. First time in 2 years. Gonna be awesome.
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lil_demented said: I haven't answered any of my friend's phone calls for about 2 weeks now. They stopped calling a few days ago.
I just don't feel like doing anything. But I think it's depression for me though. 
Dude Im the same way. Very 'few' people I give energy towards anymore for the past couple months. Only a few people I would give the time of day right now.
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i cant stand being in rural areas.. every time i leave the city i get a little freaked out. im usually just in a car/bus/train on my way to another city though so its not that bad.
i think i would die if i had to stay in a place like this:

im totally cool in a city with thousands of people and large buildings all around me though.
think thats a small bit of agoraphobia?
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Re: Agoraphobia [Re: frith]
#14374977 - 04/29/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's like the complete opposite of agoraphobia.
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Re: Agoraphobia [Re: frith]
#14374980 - 04/29/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It helps to remember your outward appearance actually isn't all that readable. Don't be concerned about how you are being perceived.
It also helps to remember most everyone hates crowds or public places. Think about it, if people are going "out in public" they surround themselves with loud music at a concert, alcohol at a bar, or a busy to-do list at a grocery store.
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The Whale said: It helps to remember your outward appearance actually isn't all that readable. Don't be concerned about how you are being perceived.
It also helps to remember most everyone hates crowds or public places. Think about it, if people are going "out in public" they surround themselves with loud music at a concert, alcohol at a bar, or a busy to-do list at a grocery store.
That's about the most generic advice and completely useless. Agoraphobia is a pretty terrible thing. You can't just hope to remember other people hate crowds and get over it.
It's a FEAR. It's a PANIC. It's scary and uncomfortable as anything most people have experienced.
I wouldn't expect you to understand. It's like trying to explain depression to someone that's never experienced it. They all say you just gotta get over being sad and do something happy...
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WakeboardrB said: That's like the complete opposite of agoraphobia.
i thought it could go either way..
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Wikipedia says: Agoraphobia is an anxiety disorder defined as a morbid fear of wide open spaces, crowds, or uncontrolled social conditions.
i always attributed agoraphobia to fear of large open spaces.. not so much crowds.
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WakeboardrB said:
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The Whale said: It helps to remember your outward appearance actually isn't all that readable. Don't be concerned about how you are being perceived.
It also helps to remember most everyone hates crowds or public places. Think about it, if people are going "out in public" they surround themselves with loud music at a concert, alcohol at a bar, or a busy to-do list at a grocery store.
That's about the most generic advice and completely useless. Agoraphobia is a pretty terrible thing. You can't just hope to remember other people hate crowds and get over it.
It's a FEAR. It's a PANIC. It's scary and uncomfortable as anything most people have experienced.
I wouldn't expect you to understand. It's like trying to explain depression to someone that's never experienced it. They all say you just gotta get over being sad and do something happy... 
I have a degree in general psychology and I've dealt with both depression and social anxiety, though not agoraphobia.
You're free to disagree and criticize all you'd like, but I've interacted with the people who suffer from these things quite a bit.
I leave generic advice because this is a "generic" message board. If this was an article discussion on Pubmed, I'd drop some different vernacular.
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Re: Agoraphobia [Re: frith]
#14375115 - 04/29/11 10:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, well I only focused on the part that affected me.
I can't imagine wide open spaces triggering agoraphobia. But that's just me.
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