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Tell Me How You Feel About This.
    #14368841 - 04/28/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If I were to post a video here and not offer any personal opinion or anecdotes to accompany it, would you prefer that the thread be locked and/or deleted? In other words, does it offend you or damage the integrity of the website?

It's obviously against the rules ("where's the logic, officer?" - "I'm just doing my job, kid!") to post a video without a comment. But this seems like a trivial necessity given that the video might be about Rebecca Black, fart jokes, commercial spoofs, or crack heads. A dissertation on the politics or why it should be funny could be overkill in many cases.

Should these video-only threads be locked? Yes or No?
I'll tally the final vote and put the number here:

[Note: I am not flaming or trolling, but offering a legitimate question]


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: The Whale]
    #14368872 - 04/28/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'll help.
Should these video-only threads be locked?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from (04/28/11 07:13 PM) to (No end specified)
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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: lil_demented]
    #14368891 - 04/28/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, much easier. Thank you. :thumbup:


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: The Whale]
    #14368897 - 04/28/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yes, come up with some words at least dang

if you were showing it to a friend, I bet you would spice it up and make it exciting.

If you cant do that then don't bring that garbage in here lol


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: The Whale]
    #14368903 - 04/28/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

only if the video is :retawed:


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Rectangle 3D]
    #14368906 - 04/28/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

At least something like "I found this while I was searching for nude nickelodeon actors." :shrug:
IDK, something has to go along with it. You must have some feelings on the video being posted if you want to show it to everybody.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: lil_demented]
    #14368916 - 04/28/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I would imagine discussion and witty anecdotes will follow once people respond to the video. They usually occur throughout the thread, and I see no benefit in making it mandatory to appear in the OP.

It gives people a chance to bump their threads, and to save whatever insights or jokes for later. No comedian or philosophical lecturer, for example, comes out swinging with the punchline.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: lil_demented] * 2
    #14368918 - 04/28/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't see the point in adding text to the OP really.

It's hardly going to have any effect on the quality of the ensuing discussion.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: lil_demented]
    #14368921 - 04/28/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Should there be less locks in the boomery? yes!

Does this sound like a butt hurt thread cuz some one got closed up: yes!
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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Rectangle 3D]
    #14368936 - 04/28/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Does this sound like a butt hurt thread cuz some one got closed up: yes!
:scumbagsteve:




Is this relevant?

No!


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Rectangle 3D]
    #14368937 - 04/28/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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Should there be less locks in the boomery? yes!

Does this sound like a butt hurt thread cuz some one got closed up: yes!
:scumbagsteve:




Please stop with the whole "butthurt" thing. Ironically, mentioning that as a counterpoint to someone is itself immature and baseless.

Nothing I posted was closed or deleted.

I can also discuss the viability of Hinduism without being a Hindu. See how this works?


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Rectangle 3D]
    #14368941 - 04/28/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

defiantly butthurt thread material right here.

I think that rule was added to the pub to cut down on trolling.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: lil_demented] * 1
    #14368946 - 04/28/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I think that rule was added to the pub to cut down on trolling.




how can you troll if you havent said a word?

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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: The Whale] * 1
    #14368950 - 04/28/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Threads that lack content should be locked and the poster moved one point closer to a ban.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: lil_demented]
    #14368953 - 04/28/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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lil_demented said:
defiantly butthurt thread material right here.





Again, nothing of mine has been locked.

It is truly mind-blowing to observe how people are accused of being butthurt if for 2 seconds they take internet bureaucracy remotely serious.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14368961 - 04/28/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

By posting a pointless picture with no description or start for a conversation or discussion? :shrug:
IDK man, why do I gotta have all the answers? It's exhausting.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: lil_demented]
    #14368966 - 04/28/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Butthurt. Notice he's an opt-out too. :shrug:


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: lil_demented]
    #14368969 - 04/28/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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By posting a pointless picture with no description or start for a conversation or discussion? :shrug:
IDK man, why do I gotta have all the answers? It's exhausting.





you, as well as most of the mods, have no concept of what "trolling" is.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: The Whale]
    #14368970 - 04/28/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

lil_demented said:
defiantly butthurt thread material right here.





Again, nothing of mine has been locked.

It is truly mind-blowing to observe how people are accused of being butthurt if for 2 seconds they take internet bureaucracy remotely serious.




It was a joke man. Don't take it seriously. Didn't mean to offend.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Doc_T]
    #14368974 - 04/28/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
Threads that lack content should be locked and the poster moved one point closer to a ban.




The video itself contains the content.

Commentary is only necessary if the context of the video requires additional clarification.

If I want to show you the mating call of a Indonesian bull frog, I shouldn't first have to tell you "p.s. it sounds like my wife in heat."


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Doc_T]
    #14368981 - 04/28/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Doc_T said:
Butthurt. Notice he's an opt-out too. :shrug:




hahahhaa, Ill say it one more time, butt hurt

this is too funny today
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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Doc_T]
    #14368982 - 04/28/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well the thread is as only good as its poster
so you can tell if the video only thread is good or not based on who posted it
so u no if its a rick roll or not


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Doc_T] * 2
    #14368986 - 04/28/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Doc_T said:
Butthurt. Notice he's an opt-out too. :shrug:



:ifyoucanawe:

Shameless trolling


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Doc_T]
    #14368992 - 04/28/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Doc_T said:
Butthurt. Notice he's an opt-out too. :shrug:




Aristotle had a beard.
Pedophiles have beards.
Aristotle was a pedophile.

P.S. At least be original if you're dropping an "opt-out" joke. And nice way to circumvent the original topic. This has NOTHING to do with being butthurt or being an opt out.

This is about video commentary.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: The Whale]
    #14368996 - 04/28/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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If I want to show you the mating call of a Indonesian bull frog, I shouldn't first have to tell you "p.s. it sounds like my wife in heat."




You should describe it as being such call, not "Dude, I LOLed!".


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: The Whale]
    #14369012 - 04/28/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

Doc_T said:
Threads that lack content should be locked and the poster moved one point closer to a ban.




The video itself contains the content.

Commentary is only necessary if the context of the video requires additional clarification.

If I want to show you the mating call of a Indonesian bull frog, I shouldn't first have to tell you "p.s. it sounds like my wife in heat."




Why would we want to watch a video of an Indonesian bull frog performing the mating call if it sounds nothing like your wife in heat?
We don't care about the bull frog, but if fit pertains to someone boning their wife then cracking on them about it on the internet, were down. :durrhurr:


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: lil_demented]
    #14369078 - 04/28/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Salomon]
    #14369149 - 04/28/11 07:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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God dammit! I so clicked on that. You rick rolled me! :shakefist:


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: lil_demented]
    #14369172 - 04/28/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:Trollface:


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: The Whale]
    #14369235 - 04/28/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I voted no, because I love opening up a thread only to see nothing other than a big white box with an F in the middle of it, where the user clearly showed no effort in bringing something potentially awesome into the community, and clearly doesn't care if people want to see it or not.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: The Whale]
    #14369259 - 04/28/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I believe no threads should be locked or deleted ever. Shutting down a message on a message board makes no sense to me. Let it ride, let it all ride. :awesomenod:


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: muistrue]
    #14369318 - 04/28/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I believe no threads should be locked or deleted ever. Shutting down a message on a message board makes no sense to me. Let it ride, let it all ride. :awesomenod:



thats called /b/


edit: and even there they have to moderate like crazy, lest the boards be filled with CP


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Salomon]
    #14369329 - 04/28/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I voted no, because I love opening up a thread only to see nothing other than a big white box with an F in the middle of it, where the user clearly showed no effort in bringing something potentially awesome into the community, and clearly doesn't care if people want to see it or not.




Kind of like how I enjoy seeing Redditors of over 4+ years who help code the website just submit links and let the worth of the video determine it's popularity and value.

Works for a few hundred thousand people apparently.

Quote:

Salomon said:
Quote:

FractalDust said:
I believe no threads should be locked or deleted ever. Shutting down a message on a message board makes no sense to me. Let it ride, let it all ride. :awesomenod:



thats called /b/




Nah, that's called Dhyana in meditation states, and refers to the mantra of "observe don't absorb." All flows anyway; so when you set up dams on the river you set up dams within yourself.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Newbie]
    #14369376 - 04/28/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I voted no, because I love opening up a thread only to see nothing other than a big white box with an F in the middle of it, where the user clearly showed no effort in bringing something potentially awesome into the community, and clearly doesn't care if people want to see it or not.




This makes absolutely no sense to me

Just because whoever posted it would rather not fill up your mind with preconceived notions or his own perspective on the matter before showing you the video, that automatically signifies that they don't care?


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: propensity]
    #14369463 - 04/28/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It just comes off to me as "here's a video, watch it".


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Newbie]
    #14369566 - 04/28/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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It just comes off to me as "here's a video, watch it".




Yes, that's basically it. :shrug:

The community will participate and communicate as needed.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: The Whale]
    #14369754 - 04/28/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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4) Post with the intention of causing intelligent discussion. This means having actual content in your post.
Any original post who's sole purpose is to receive comments about a posted video or link must contain at the least, a description of the video or link.
If you make a thread with just a video and no description or anything explaining it, expect it to be locked.





That says it all.  Even the Pub description:

Quote:

"A place for laid-back discussion on any topic, come introduce yourself to the community, and join in some chilled-out conversation."





It doesn't say, "This is a bulletin board for you to throw up random videos and pictures."  People want to know what they're clicking.  Even Break.com and YouTube have descriptions of what's being posted.  Even a site at simple as wimp.com lets you know what you're clicking.  Could you imagine if all of those sites just abandoned their current formats and threw up big white squares with F's in the middle?  Chances are, if you went to the site you originally found those videos on and there were no descriptions or anything, you wouldn't have even bothered clicking it in the first place.  We ask that you give the same respect to the members of this community in the Pub.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Newbie]
    #14369757 - 04/28/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About Penis. [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14369769 - 04/28/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

this is a thread about threads with no content, so is no content, content?


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14369775 - 04/28/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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thread titles brah




Yeah...

Thread title:  OMGGGZZZZ!!!

or:  HOLY CRAP!!

or:  Watch this!!!


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About Penis. [Re: Salomon]
    #14369787 - 04/28/11 09:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Newbie, I enjoy surprises. That's the entire concept behind a lot of websites that only give you a slight impression of the content -- by choosing an intentionally ambiguous title or description. Plus, we should trust each other to be selective of worth while videos.

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this is a thread about threads with no content, so is no content, content?




There are entire philosophical discourses about the concept of "nothing" - which is, ironically, something.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Newbie]
    #14369789 - 04/28/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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thread titles brah




Yeah...

Thread title:  OMGGGZZZZ!!!

or:  HOLY CRAP!!

or:  Watch this!!!


:dumbass:





well i can see where you're coming from with that.

but i think if someone has a decent thread title and posts nothing but a movie, their thread should go by.

or at least let it be given a chance to have some content.

its like killing babies just because theyre dumb as rocks when theyre born. of course its dumb as a rock. wait until it grows up a little and give it a chance to get smart before you kill it.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14370269 - 04/28/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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its like killing babies just because theyre dumb as rocks when theyre born. of course its dumb as a rock. wait until it grows up a little and give it a chance to get smart before you kill it.




Nah, it's more like killing babies with 2 extra chromosomes, a cleft palate, and half a brain.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Newbie]
    #14370493 - 04/29/11 12:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: The Whale]
    #14371413 - 04/29/11 07:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If the poster of a video isn't required to put any effort into presenting the material, there is no barrier to entry, no reason not to just spam the board with whatever garbage the RP is thinking of at the moment.

We enforce the "start a video thread with content" as the barest minimum enforcement of the "intelligent discussion" rule. If I had my way, any post that doesn't further such a discussion would be deleted. I'm doing my best, but I simply don't have time to hand out that many bans.

To say that the videos cause discussion without accompanying ideas is not in line with reality. More often, one person posts a video, then fifteen people post laughing graemlins and that's the thread.  If RP can't be asked to discuss it from the very beginning, it's not going to get any better.

Threads are locked as a warning that the rules are enforced, and that threads started without content will not be rewarded with attention.

I could definitely get behind deleting them instead, but that would entail deleting following posts that might not violate the rules in and of themselves.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #14371416 - 04/29/11 07:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The easiest way to resolve this is to just add a couple lines of text that help explain what the video is, what you feel about it and something the community will respond to.  Even if you don't need to word it because the video does a better job, people aren't going to watch it without knowing what they're in for first.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: Maverick]
    #14371424 - 04/29/11 07:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I find it annoying when a post is just simply a video. Kinda like, hey, you want me to watch this but just did a terrible job convincing me - backspace.


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Re: Tell Me How You Feel About This. [Re: gzuf]
    #14371795 - 04/29/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The poll results are almost equally split between yes and no.


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