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21 Year Old Dies on Ketamine, Parents try to Reclassify Ketamine to Class B or A in England
#14368413 - 04/28/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The parents of a woman who died after using ketamine are to begin a You Tube campaign to raise awareness.
Louise Cattell, 21, drowned in March after falling asleep in a bath at her flat in Clapton, east London, after taking the drug.
Her parents Vicky Unwin and Ross Cattell have said people are "playing with fire" by taking ketamine.
The horse anaesthetic is a class C drug but a review is expected to recommend an upgrade to its classification.
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FUN-loving 21-year-old Louise Cattell died in March after drowning in the bath. She had taken ketamine and fallen asleep.
To thousands of young people like Louise, taking the “party drug” known as “Special K” or “K” is as much a part of the weekend as dressing up and cranking up the volume.
The numbers are hard to verify but conservative Home Office estimates suggest about 150,000 youngsters regularly take the drug more commonly used as a horse tranquilliser.
Ms Cattell’s parents, who live in Belsize Park where she grew up with her brother, want to use their daughter’s memory to raise awareness of the drug’s dangers.
“People are playing with fire when they take ketamine and they just don’t know it,” says Louise’s mother, Vicky Unwin. “They live in a kind of la la land. Because it is cheap, available and everyone is taking it they think it must be safe.
“There is so much ignorance and stupidity about taking drugs. The circumstances are very different from Louise’s but I think ignorance about drugs is what we are getting from the tragic death of the 15-year-old girl in west London.
“I don’t think it’s realistic to say: all people shouldn’t take drugs – that would be scaremongering – but I do think people should know the risks, because at the moment, as a ‘brand’, ketamine is just not seen as dangerous. This is what we want to change.”
Louise – a talented photographer and DJ who was hoping to break into the fashion industry – had taken the drug with a group of friends after cooking them dinner at her flat in Clapton, east London. They had drunk some wine, watched the TV for a bit and Louise had run a bath to help her wind down.
An hour later her flatmate woke up realising something was wrong. She found Louise in the bath and desperately tried to resuscitate her but she was pronounced dead at the scene by paramedics.
Vicky says the family’s campaign should be used not to call for tougher enforcement or to ignite another debate about classification (ketamine is currently class C), but to encourage youngsters to know the risks and look out for each other.
“With Louise’s friends, the response has been to fall into two camps,” she says.
“A lot of them have moved away from the scene, but I think some are just carrying on as usual. The campaign will aim to get people talking about ketamine. It will be viral, on Facebook and YouTube.
“Something we have to confront is that people will say: ‘Look at the statistics, not very many people die from ketamine.’
“But I strongly suspect a lot of the deaths are hidden.
“Either because they get recorded as other things – in Louise’s case, misadventure or drowning – or they are not spoken about because of embarrassment.
“Personally I know three other people who have died from ketamine.”
Ketamine’s effects on the user are powerful. It depresses the nervous system, causing a loss of bodily sensation. The outer body experience is known as “going into a K-hole” and some users struggle to move or feel pain.
Doctors say taking ketamine becomes more dangerous when mixed with other drugs, notably ecstasy and amphetamines.
And the side effects can be even more disabling when, as in Louise’s case, you drink alcohol. It causes heart trouble, shortness of breath and, in the most serious cases, unconsciousness.
David Nutt, former chairman of the British Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, had suggested upgrading ketamine from a class C drug before he was sacked from his post.
For the campaign, the Cattells are planning on getting some of Louise’s friends together to make a short film about her life.
And since the family were forced to abandon plans for a small private funeral when they were inundated with messages from Louise’s friends, they are now going to hold a large humanist memorial service in June.
People will be able to share memories of Louise, and they will launch magic lanterns into the sky over Primrose Hill.
“I think Louise would have liked the idea of the memorial,” Vicky says. “It would appeal to her spirit of adventure.
“All deaths from drugs are unnecessary. A death from drugs is a death from ignorance. Through better communication I hope we can make a difference and prevent anyone else suffering the same fate as Louise.”London
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Edited by Coaster (04/30/11 01:44 PM)
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Coaster]
#14368443 - 04/28/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anesthesia + bath tub = Darwin Award.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Doc_T]
#14368492 - 04/28/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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my x gf used to do this, she even recommended it to me
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Coaster]
#14368496 - 04/28/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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but i dont think she would do doses so high that you wouldnt notice your lungs being filled with water
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Coaster]
#14368509 - 04/28/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, I like to drink a beer in the bath, but you could drown on booze too. Like anything else, dosage and common sense.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Coaster]
#14368807 - 04/28/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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why would you get in the bath if you were taking a drug like ketamine? possibly a suicide.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Coaster]
#14368888 - 04/28/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Coaster said: about 150,000 youngsters regularly take the drug more commonly used as a horse tranquilliser.
Ketamine is not just a "horse tranquilizer." It's used on humans all the time. They keep it in ambulances!
Dissociative anesthetics + bath tubs ... what you except
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Black_Sunset]
#14369130 - 04/28/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ya ketamine was invented 49 years ago in 62' to replace phencyclidine my friend got some in the army for a dislocated arm they IVed him pretty tight
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Coaster]
#14369141 - 04/28/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I bet she died feelin' good.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Coaster]
#14369142 - 04/28/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Coaster said: 49 years ago in 62'
Suddenly I feel old.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: I AM SWIM]
#14369175 - 04/28/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I AM SWIM said:

I bet she died feelin' good.
ya they give ketamine to pets before they inject them with pentobarbital to kill them too
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Coaster]
#14369262 - 04/28/11 08:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i used to know a dumb bitch who kept trying to get me to do k and go swimming with her. she liked to blast a line and sit at the bottom of the pool. i'm surprised that stupid whore didn't drown.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: LeeHarvOz]
#14369299 - 04/28/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was surprised by the article. There were parts that kind of made me roll my eyes, but in text, the family's campaign seems like a logical one. I dig it.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: TTT]
#14369346 - 04/28/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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How do you drown in a bathtub? Was she like, 3.5 feet tall? My bathtub is like 4 feet long. If I did fill it up and folded up my knees and lied my head down the water would still not go to my mouth. I bet someone dosed her and put her there.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Leon Ferrum]
#14369445 - 04/28/11 08:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Leon Ferrum said: How do you drown in a bathtub? Was she like, 3.5 feet tall? My bathtub is like 4 feet long. If I did fill it up and folded up my knees and lied my head down the water would still not go to my mouth. I bet someone dosed her and put her there.
Maybe her bathtub is bigger than yours?
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Leon Ferrum]
#14369449 - 04/28/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Leon Ferrum said: How do you drown in a bathtub?
Face down.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Doc_T]
#14369701 - 04/28/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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All you have to do is submerge enough to just go into your nostrils or mouth.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Doc_T]
#14369723 - 04/28/11 09:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not everyone has the same sized bath tub...If I was to hole out my face could easily be fully submerged while laying in my tub.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: benton]
#14370047 - 04/28/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Because it is cheap, available and everyone is taking it they think it must be safe.
Nobody is claiming they think it's safe, where do they get this shit? Alcohol is the cheapest of all and nobody smart would ever claim it's safe.
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Re: Girl Age 21 Allegedly Dies From Drowning on Ketamine [Re: Coaster]
#14370162 - 04/28/11 10:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's a sad story. One of the the biggest ketamine aficionados of all time, D.M. Turner, also died this way.
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