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The art of dreaming
    #14367168 - 04/28/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone familiar with this book by Carlos castaneda? If so any progress through the gates of dreaming? Elaborate please :smile:


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Re: The art of dreaming [Re: gotmagic]
    #14367408 - 04/28/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here is a BBC biography of him.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8F57ED0B145B2F50

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Re: The art of dreaming [Re: gotmagic]
    #14367469 - 04/28/11 03:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i have limited experience.  I dont even attempt to have clarity in my dreams when i hear my roommates TV as I'm falling asleep

so its been a while since i've really worked at it


the only things i can testify for are that the looking at your hands thing has some truth to it. It's not about your hands but about keeping the images from shifting by glancing instead of gazing

and the dreaming body really does move from the midsection. I might even venture to say that the dreaming body is also tethered to the physical body, and this tether extends through the midsection


I think with a book like this (honestly if there were one castaneda book i have doubts about it would be this one), it is important not to be too tied to the specifics as if it were a road map or as if it was going to be the same for you. I find many truths in the books that castaneda could not have come up with but we don't know where he might have taken liberties for whatever reason.



for a while i had gotten to the point where i could still be awake when I start dreaming. At first, suddenly switching your location from wherever you are resting to wherever you are dreaming can be so shocking that it wakes you up out of it. But then you get used to it, and you can know that you are at home still while experiencing your dreaming as if still awake.

but that's just the beginning. i should try to do more thangs. Good luck to you


another thing that is true is that the more disciplined your daily life, the more disciplined your dreaming can become. That doesn't mean follow specific rules, it means try not to have chaotic personal issues interfering every step of the way


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Re: The art of dreaming [Re: gotmagic]
    #14367496 - 04/28/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Carlos Castaneda wrote fiction.


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Re: The art of dreaming [Re: HipsterDoofus]
    #14367667 - 04/28/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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HipsterDoofus said:
Carlos Castaneda wrote fiction.




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Re: The art of dreaming [Re: gotmagic]
    #14367750 - 04/28/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

gotmagic said:
Anyone familiar with this book by Carlos castaneda? If so any progress through the gates of dreaming? Elaborate please :smile:




Yes. This dude is somewhat of a acolyte of Castaneda. Got anything specific you want to hear about? I personally don't use the hand method but I know it works for people.


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Re: The art of dreaming [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14399501 - 05/04/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Can you really be as aware in a dream as he claims to be? I've had a handful of lucid dreams but even still I don't feel nearly as aware as waking consciousness


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Re: The art of dreaming [Re: gotmagic]
    #14399591 - 05/04/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Awareness comes in degrees. Like everything, it gets better with practice.


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Re: The art of dreaming [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14399735 - 05/04/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Out of interest, gid you get your satoris from dreaming or intellectual inquiry cosmo? I hear you can have them while dreaming, is this what Casteneda means by the gates, and does your experience correlate closely?

Some of the mental phenomena I've had matches what casteneda says which surprised me because I always thought it was just an interesting way of presenting spirituality until I started experiencing some of the stuff.


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Re: The art of dreaming [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14399775 - 05/04/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I haven't read too much into Castaneda to be honest. In Dream Yoga they call it "natural light" dreams or "clear light" dreams. I have had emotionally riveting dreams where the sense of self is, morphed, for lack of a better word, but in my personal experience I have yet to have the traditional formless clear light dream.

I have experienced a few dreams with left me with a positive after-highs for days or weeks afterward. :cool:

I'm confused by what you mean here:
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Some of the mental phenomena I've had matches what casteneda says which surprised me because I always thought it was just an interesting way of presenting spirituality until I started experiencing some of the stuff.




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Re: The art of dreaming [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14399952 - 05/04/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Oh, things like the second attention. I felt it a few times and I would be like "oh, THAT's what it is". Also that death is to your right (Death anxiety always appears on the right hand side of my consciousness). Just little things like that.


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