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Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway?
    #14366335 - 04/28/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You could do a slant build a flowhood and isolate and clone and make prints and mother jars, use a sub with poo and subs with additives do GTG transfers and GLCs and ELME LCs and grow all the other psilocybe species all by your 2nd grow. The only things you would need to do it all, and do it all successfully are, enough time, enough money, and a pocket full of knowhow/common sense 90/10, with will to raise your PH(ProfessionalHandling) some stamina/want 50/50.NOPE! All you really need is enough money and time, and a 1st time grower can do bulk easily and be cloning and isolating in front of the flowhood in notime!

This is what I fee like people said when they discouraged me from bulk and talked me into cakes.
Really all you need is money, internet, and the ability to read and follow directions. But you can just do it the hard crappy way since you are obviously too stupid and poor to use a PC or follow directions so I am going to tell you to make some brf cakes, I am telling you they are the best for noobs and laughing while I use my much less maintenance higher yeild tek and harvest ounces from the first and second flush in one tub, doing nothing really but pouring hot water on it and mixing it with the sterile colonized rye, and I have 8 total tubs going at once, go make some cakes that won't grow anything but a few invitros and turn green after sitting in the SG doing nothing for a month, while having some poor idiot love it so, mist and fan the crap out of it for nothing.Have fun HAHA!

I wish somone had said get six 64 quart tubs, three 5 gallon buckets with locking lids, 3-6 bricks of coir, big bag-o-verm, gypsum, ELME, a 50 pound bag of rye, a pressure cooker, polyfil, at least 24 quart jars and 12 pint jars, synthetic filter disks, red rtv, some field leeched road apples or store bought shit, oust and other cleaning/sterile procedure items, two dehydrators, and a spore syringe.

Make a quart or three GLCs from MS grain jars first and make a few pint ELME LCs from the GLCs and use the rest to noc up 18-21 rye jars, and when 18 quarts of rye are fully colonized add them to Damion5050's elementary coir tek with a cup of gypsum and one quart of composted or field leeched shit ground up and properly pasteurized for some extra nutes added in place of one quart of verm for half the tubs, the rest of the tubs just use the tek so that you can compare growth rates and such. Clean totes cut holes yada yada spray oust in the room 10 minutes before you use 1/2 bucket of coir mix per tub and 3-31/3 quarts of spawn per tub. Mix each well, put the lid on, stack them in a closet with most of the holes taped, one or two holes tightly packed with poly per tub except the tubs stacked on top, lids will provide enough GE for top totes, now just wait ten days, check them, if fully colonized take off tape and fill holes with polyfil top tight bottom loose with one bottom plug left out till you see pins and then wait another week or so for ounces and ounces and ounces of mushrooms, you will have so many mushrooms you won't be able to dry them all at once or give them all away.

Then the person would have said good luck or something and answered every question I had politely without acting like they were better than me or saying UTFSE. I am about to tone this down to two tubs and make my own noob bulk tek for those who don't want to start at the bottom and I hope it pisses all the fat cake lovin bitches off so bad that they all come leave me angry nasty reviews for encouraging the noobs to do something besides cakes.  :needdrugs: :hanky:

PCing Rye is simple
Self healing lids....simple but meticulous
Sterile procedures, simple
Making a mono FC...child's play
spawning to and half assed pasteurizing coir pfffft, do it in my sleep, literally...
waiting two more weeks, exciting
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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14366374 - 04/28/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

people talk people into cakes cuz u dont need a PC

thats all.

edit: and cuz when you lose 1 cake u dont lose a whole tub of 6 + quarts of spawn


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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14366386 - 04/28/11 11:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

its all simple, once you've studied it for a while, as you have.
of course with the proper equipment (be ready to spend at
least a grand for all the equipment yo've listed) and spend many hours reading up on the proper procedures.
comparitively, pf tek is simple, cheap and effective. i'm
sorry your experience with it went so bad, but believe me,
mine did'nt. i spent less than $50 and a few hours of reading
to perform my first pf tek, and as i only wanted enough for
a few people it was all good, in fact we got more than we really
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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14366433 - 04/28/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yep, I just dropped $1,300 after the flowhood and everything to do it PROPERLY.

To be frank OP, I have no idea what you're ranting on about, I started with grain. Anyway, back to being productive...

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    #14366443 - 04/28/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:facepalm3: U really got WAY too much time on your hands to post and double post and then post again this kind of crap! Personally i am sick and tired of your half ass two cents all the fucking time...but that doesn't matter at all... just :2cents:  LOL


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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: Perun]
    #14366616 - 04/28/11 12:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This was my first take, in full I think 3 pics

not bad for 12 cakes I guess lol the middle one stalled so I just picked it, I fanned the hell out of those things and now I have to do almost nothing and get dry ounces.


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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14366625 - 04/28/11 12:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14366637 - 04/28/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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and now I have to do almost nothing and get dry ounces.



thats bulk for ya ;p


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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14366668 - 04/28/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Wow. No offense, but that's some terrible overlay. You're losing weight if the mycellium is wasting energy overlaying the casing layer. Other than that, nice tray! :smile:


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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14366672 - 04/28/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:awewtf: im going to leave this thread alone now..

but i dont think there is any overlay here.

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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14366684 - 04/28/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Wow. No offense, but that's some terrible overlay. You're losing weight if the mycellium is wasting energy overlaying the casing layer. Other than that, nice tray! :smile:




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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: PassiveAgressive]
    #14366832 - 04/28/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Wow. No offense, but that's some terrible overlay. You're losing weight if the mycellium is wasting energy overlaying the casing layer. Other than that, nice tray! :smile:




1- thats not a tray, its a monotub.:thumbup:

2- thats not overlay, you dont get fruits w/overlay.  overlay is where the myc gets so dence that its almost like a rubber mat, it almost suffocates itself and wont fruit, then your sub dries out. :strokebeard3:

3- thats not a casing layer, thats colonized coir/manure/verm (Im pretty sure).


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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: 13shrooms]
    #14366883 - 04/28/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This thread reeks of fail. Except what 13 Shrooms said.

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All you really need is enough money and time, and a 1st time grower can do bulk easily




Money, time, ability to follow directions, clean spores.
Your boring failthreads are boring and full of fail. Please post something interesting.
Lots of people start with grains, I did cased rye. So what? You can grow a monotub, that's great. But so what?


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    #14366897 - 04/28/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14366922 - 04/28/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Meh. Mistakes happen, I'm still HAPPY  :discorex:


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    #14366931 - 04/28/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:plur:no biggie, I just cant let it go and had to correct it. :bananadance:


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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14366937 - 04/28/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Fungal growth said:
its all simple, once you've studied it for a while, as you have.
of course with the proper equipment (be ready to spend at
least a grand for all the equipment yo've listed) and spend many hours reading up on the proper procedures.
comparitively, pf tek is simple, cheap and effective. i'm
sorry your experience with it went so bad, but believe me,
mine did'nt. i spent less than $50 and a few hours of reading
to perform my first pf tek, and as i only wanted enough for
a few people it was all good, in fact we got more than we really
needed.




Your crazy!!!!!  Yeah with a flowhood which he didnt mention. u might be close.

64qt tubs        $ 8.00
50lbs Rye        $20.00
Coir 3 pack      $ 12.00
verm  (huge bag)  $ 8.50
Quart Jars        $ 9.00
Pressure Cooker  $80.00

Like 140 bucks and most is a 1 time cost,  The only thing you need to buy for your next 10 grows is more Coir......  Thats it!  From 6 Monos ur talking LBS and LBS.

3n1gm4 I agree.  Also think you should write this tek.  I did have success with the pf tek.  12-13 years ago.  haha I still have the original PF TEK book, wonder if its worh any money now?

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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: 13shrooms]
    #14366946 - 04/28/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I never asked if I could do bulk for my first grow. I just studied and picked what I wanted to do. I did pretty good.
Oh, wait... SCREAM....YELL... RANT... FUCK YOU!
There now I'm participating, lol.
BTW If you had a bunch of green in your first grow, that's on you man... (shit I hope he doesn't find out I came over and messed his stuff up)...
Just kidding man. You do a good tek for noobs, that's a very kind thing. Good on ya'
Where is all the love anyway?
and nushie, where did u get 64 qt jars for $8? That's my life's savings but it'd be worth it


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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: 13shrooms]
    #14366961 - 04/28/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

this thread is :brilliant:

see sig line.

o...did he not mention a flowhood? i thought he had....
my bad. i sometimes get lost reading peoples long and pointless rants.

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Re: Some noobs, ARE capable of doing bulk!?! Whats the hockey cake 4 anyway? [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14366977 - 04/28/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

All of my first grows were monotubs. I never wasted time with cakes (seriously they're a joke). You put so much effort and energy in cakes and get shit results.

As long as you keep things simple and stupid you shouldn't have any problems doing more "complex" grows. I actually think monotubs are super easy to pull off. The only hard part is learn what proper field capacity is...once you get that down it's all gravy.


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