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Heroic Doses
    #14365618 - 04/28/11 07:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

For those of you who have ate high level mushroom doses (5-7 ).  Share expierence, how was it? im level headed and experienced with drug use so im not asking advice to try it or not. 

Do visuals increase with higher doses, colors brighter?

Or is it just the mind fuck of a lifetime.  I would like to hallucinate a bit more, thats why i show interest in dmt and my first high dose of mushrooms.  What do ya'll think? How was yours?

Im tripping monday with a few buddies.

And anyone here going to electric forest this year? How was that? worth the 200 dollar ticket?  Plus throw in camping money 3 days and drugs:bigblunt: :trippnballs:  thinking lsd and molly possibly, just because shrooming at a concert would be ok...but then eating double the dose the next day wouldn't be lol.  Molly first night, LSD and molly second night, then LSD final night.  *thought id share that also* Future trip report!


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: CleverTrip]
    #14365894 - 04/28/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Your visuals will increase significantly. If you eat 5-7 grams, your visuals will be very intense!

But keep in mind that the visuals won't be the only things intensifying. Like you said about mindfuck, you will be extremely confused. There's a high chance of ego death at doses that high.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: CleverTrip]
    #14365895 - 04/28/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Need to be very prepared for high doses... It's going over the edge... Not for the light hearted or ill prepared...

In my opinion, it will show you parts of yourself that you have not paid attention to or have hidden... It's not something I suggest to do for 'fun' ... Or do when you have to deal with anyone else...

I doubt you will remember everything that happens... But yes,'more visuals, more opening to the universe, more 'what the hell am I doing?' and it last longer... probably loss of 'self' ... Be ready for a real look at yourself on the come down

But, it's something if you can ride the bull...


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: HarryL]
    #14365918 - 04/28/11 09:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yes thats what im looking for.  I've tripped by myself before on a couple tabs, for my first time actually on lsd, and i examined myself just as you said.  Im willing to do that, why not looking into myself and make sure i am clear of issues and the deeper image is good. 

Yes i eat about an eighth with my buds for recreational dose, i've never heroic on lsd.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: CleverTrip]
    #14365944 - 04/28/11 09:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yes, im not sure if i have expierenced ego death yet, but after every time coming off of lsd or mushrooms, i know who i am, i accept myself for who i am, and it helps me see the brighter things in life, when under the influence.  I do not believe i am better than anyone really, my life is so minuscule.  Let me know if thats ego death.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: CleverTrip]
    #14365989 - 04/28/11 09:40 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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yes, im not sure if i have expierenced ego death yet, but after every time coming off of lsd or mushrooms, i know who i am, i accept myself for who i am, and it helps me see the brighter things in life, when under the influence.  I do not believe i am better than anyone really, my life is so minuscule.  Let me know if thats ego death.




Not ego death, just the afterglow. I love the afterglow of anything, but especially ayahuasca. I always feel so small and humbled.

Like you said in the first post, you WILL know when you experience ego death. It's not something you can question afterward.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bholzer]
    #14366010 - 04/28/11 09:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Is ego death necessarily a bad thing?


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: CleverTrip]
    #14366125 - 04/28/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

No, not at all!! It usually isn't a bad thing!


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bholzer]
    #14366185 - 04/28/11 10:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've had some experiences with eating 7g of mushrooms, which is the highest dose I've taken...

I highly, highly recommend this!  My experiences were breathtaking and life enriching.  I would make sure to have everything I need in my bedroom and mostly stay lying down on my bed for the whole trip so to avoid any nausea. 

For me, the trips were unbelievable and realer than real.  I don't have much of a comment on the visuals, because it was like i was transported to another land...like the mushroom kingdom from mario games.  I've turned into a fungus and felt myself growing roots around the whole room; seeing the room from every wall.  I've had great laughs and shed tears of joy, talked to god jesus and the Sun, made whole songs in my head, and divined lost information about religion and the soul.  One time I started laughing so hard because I realized I had no idea where I was, who I was, or what was going on, but it felt so good that I didn't care.

like i said, I highly recommend eating stronger doses of mushrooms


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: Vector]
    #14366200 - 04/28/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

5 grams disolved into orangina

then 5 grams shroomelate

4 hour time loop, super crazy visuals

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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: CleverTrip]
    #14366353 - 04/28/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I've been on a +25 gram trip and was fully convinced I was a f*cking God.

Had visions of the future, feel absolutely NO FEAR towards anything.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bholzer]
    #14366359 - 04/28/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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yes, im not sure if i have expierenced ego death yet, but after every time coming off of lsd or mushrooms, i know who i am, i accept myself for who i am, and it helps me see the brighter things in life, when under the influence.  I do not believe i am better than anyone really, my life is so minuscule.  Let me know if thats ego death.




Not ego death, just the afterglow. I love the afterglow of anything, but especially ayahuasca. I always feel so small and humbled.

Like you said in the first post, you WILL know when you experience ego death. It's not something you can question afterward.




Man the afterglow is just unreal isn't it?


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: Vector]
    #14366577 - 04/28/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I've had some experiences with eating 7g of mushrooms, which is the highest dose I've taken...

I highly, highly recommend this!  My experiences were breathtaking and life enriching.  I would make sure to have everything I need in my bedroom and mostly stay lying down on my bed for the whole trip so to avoid any nausea. 

For me, the trips were unbelievable and realer than real.  I don't have much of a comment on the visuals, because it was like i was transported to another land...like the mushroom kingdom from mario games.  I've turned into a fungus and felt myself growing roots around the whole room; seeing the room from every wall.  I've had great laughs and shed tears of joy, talked to god jesus and the Sun, made whole songs in my head, and divined lost information about religion and the soul.  One time I started laughing so hard because I realized I had no idea where I was, who I was, or what was going on, but it felt so good that I didn't care.

like i said, I highly recommend eating stronger doses of mushrooms



Im pretty baked :bigblunt: so i pumped my fist after reading your post. Now im thinking i might save the 7g dose for a time when i can do it at my house, in my room, and let the mushroom take full control with no one around. Im just a little worried being "out and about" on that dose. Out and about means me and some buddies are going to a nice park if its sunny. natural trials, walk off the trails, smoke cigs, and eat lunch, that would be the day.  Id really like to take that high dose, but there a doubt i couldnt keep it together, just because the lack of knowledge (Never dosed that high). Im very level headed, and i've never really lost the fact that i took a drug, i always knew i was going to come up and down, then back to normal.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: CleverTrip]
    #14366866 - 04/28/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah man, don't take a high dose if you're going to be out and about.  high doses have a tendency to leave you completely incapacitated and fully out of your gourd. 

i personally don't really like tripping anywhere but my home, but if i was taking shrooms while out i probably wouldn't go higher than a couple grams


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: Vector]
    #14366983 - 04/28/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I did 5 grams a few weeks ago with some friends. It was the most i have dosed and i though it wouldn't be that bad. Boy was i wrong.. It took forever for them to kick in and when they did everything was fucked up.. trees moving from one place to another and everything was a different color it was crazy and scary at the same time. I remember going through my mind thinking what am i going to do with my life.. over and over. The mind fuck was crazy i didnt have a single clue what was going on.. Make sure your ready for it cause it sure kicked my ass


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: Chris24c]
    #14367488 - 04/28/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: CleverTrip]
    #14367889 - 04/28/11 04:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well just for everyone else i dont recommend eating more then 4 grams your first trip(guess if your on here pretty much every thread says this) but my first trip i ate little less then 7 grams(pretty dumb but showed me the potential of shrooms) and when i read "mind fuck of a life time" i had to let you kno thats exactly what it is i couldnt rly decide what to do things were so intense i had to close my eyes plus the trip was telling me to when i finally started looking around EVERYTHING had some kind of motion to it the ceiling had a semi transperant layer about 2feet below the normal 1 i couldnt talk at all because when i tried speaking to many thoughts were coming in at the same time i would mix up words and say thigns like "ya wall cat dont cry"(basicly its like when you listen to music and type and sometimes accidently start typing the lyrics. although i loved this trip i actually plan to eat quiet a bit more then that sometime except not at night and in a perfect place so im safe.

since your experienced id say why not you should be able to handle it just keep in mind that your tripping and if things get crazy just keep saying 1 word in your head that is happy, this works for me alot if i have a bad thought and notice it starting to take over what im thinking ill just keep thinking of water or something


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bloodyxscar]
    #14368272 - 04/28/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Couple questions...

With the lemon tek, do you have to keep the chunks in the lemon juice or can it be strained?

And also, i think i may do the heroic dose.  Ends up im doing the last of my lucy tomorrow, is there some sort of cross tolerence with lsd and shrooms.  I haven't tripped lucy in 1 week, and i havent tripped shrooms in month+ if that info helps.

and to your last post, i was thinking about putting an index card in my pocket reading "You have ingested a drug, magic mushrooms, you will come down, do not worry" something to that extent to remind me if it gets too crazy.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: CleverTrip]
    #14368325 - 04/28/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well i think it would be best to get your shrooms as dry as possible then kind of break into smaller pieces then try to smash/crumble into an almost powder then pour that into your lemon juice id asume that if you wanted you could put something over your container and shake it a little but then i would just slam it down fast with the mush still in there because it probably wont get everything out and if you hate the taste just drink something with it...personally i dont mind the taste of shrooms at all.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: CleverTrip]
    #14368444 - 04/28/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Couple questions...

With the lemon tek, do you have to keep the chunks in the lemon juice or can it be strained?

And also, i think i may do the heroic dose.  Ends up im doing the last of my lucy tomorrow, is there some sort of cross tolerence with lsd and shrooms.  I haven't tripped lucy in 1 week, and i havent tripped shrooms in month+ if that info helps.

and to your last post, i was thinking about putting an index card in my pocket reading "You have ingested a drug, magic mushrooms, you will come down, do not worry" something to that extent to remind me if it gets too crazy.




There is definitely a cross tolerance, but I'm not entirely sure how strongly one drug affects the tolerance to another.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bholzer]
    #14368490 - 04/28/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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There is definitely a cross tolerance, but I'm not entirely sure how strongly one drug affects the tolerance to another.




hmm this may be true what makes you think this arent they pretty different chemical structures? such as lsd=ergotamine(i believe is the main thing) and shrooms=phylosibin? i realize i spelled those wrong


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bloodyxscar]
    #14368551 - 04/28/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There's no preparing for a high dose of psychedelics, it's different for everyone.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bloodyxscar]
    #14368695 - 04/28/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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There is definitely a cross tolerance, but I'm not entirely sure how strongly one drug affects the tolerance to another.




hmm this may be true what makes you think this arent they pretty different chemical structures? such as lsd=ergotamine(i believe is the main thing) and shrooms=phylosibin? i realize i spelled those wrong




They are, but they still affect the same receptors in the brain. This can cause the cross-tolerance.

And ergotamine isn't the active chemical, it's a precursor to LSD. LSD's active chemical is lysergic acid diethylamide.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bholzer]
    #14368710 - 04/28/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

And by active chemical I mean only chemical


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bholzer]
    #14368758 - 04/28/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Heroic doses is the way to go. You'll have fun, don't seek anything from it. Just lay back and enjoy the ride. Nothing a poster, a thought or the internet will ever explain to you what a heroic dose is like, you just have to try it for yourself. And if you wanna see real visuals, trip in the dark. enjoy!


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: HerbalJunkie]
    #14368815 - 04/28/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Could high doses of mush or LSD be compared to a salvia trip for intensity? Perhaps a different kind of intensity? I've done the salvia, but not a high dose.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: Nightingale]
    #14368819 - 04/28/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Could high doses of mush or LSD be compared to a salvia trip for intensity? Perhaps a different kind of intensity? I've done the salvia, but not a high dose.




Completely different


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    #14368887 - 04/28/11 07:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

each have their own dimension. Mushrooms feel safest in my opinion.


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    #14368959 - 04/28/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Could high doses of mush or LSD be compared to a salvia trip for intensity? Perhaps a different kind of intensity? I've done the salvia, but not a high dose.




Completely different




:awesome: Hoped you'd say that. It'd be too bad to have experienced everything psychedelics have to offer with only a single rip.


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    #14368998 - 04/28/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Could high doses of mush or LSD be compared to a salvia trip for intensity? Perhaps a different kind of intensity? I've done the salvia, but not a high dose.




Completely different




:awesome: Hoped you'd say that. It'd be too bad to have experienced everything psychedelics have to offer with only a single rip.




Yea, salvia can definitely be intense, but not in a fun way, IMO. You'll see a much more euphoric experience with almost all other psychedelics.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bholzer]
    #14369009 - 04/28/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just know never to go into public places on high doses of mushrooms. 

I have made this mistake multiple times, and although I don't regret it, I certainly won't do it again.

Even an art museum, no matter how appealing at first, is a bad idea.


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    #14369179 - 04/28/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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There is definitely a cross tolerance, but I'm not entirely sure how strongly one drug affects the tolerance to another.




hmm this may be true what makes you think this arent they pretty different chemical structures? such as lsd=ergotamine(i believe is the main thing) and shrooms=phylosibin? i realize i spelled those wrong




They are, but they still affect the same receptors in the brain. This can cause the cross-tolerance.

And ergotamine isn't the active chemical, it's a precursor to LSD. LSD's active chemical is lysergic acid diethylamide.



ok ya i guess i didnt think about that im sure your right.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bholzer]
    #14369255 - 04/28/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Could high doses of mush or LSD be compared to a salvia trip for intensity? Perhaps a different kind of intensity? I've done the salvia, but not a high dose.




Completely different




:awesome: Hoped you'd say that. It'd be too bad to have experienced everything psychedelics have to offer with only a single rip.




Yea, salvia can definitely be intense, but not in a fun way, IMO. You'll see a much more euphoric experience with almost all other psychedelics.




Good to know. I didn't think salvia was "fun", but definately inspiring. I found though that it was the uncomfortable portion (all of it) that made it so good in the end.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: Nightingale]
    #14369277 - 04/28/11 08:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Good to know. I didn't think salvia was "fun", but definately inspiring. I found though that it was the uncomfortable portion (all of it) that made it so good in the end.




That's how I feel about ayahuasca. It can be fun in low doses, but higher range can be really difficult, but afterward always ends up inspiring. I hate how difficult aya can be, but I LOVE the way I feel after. It's such a humbling experience.


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    #14369347 - 04/28/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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That's how I feel about ayahuasca. It can be fun in low doses, but higher range can be really difficult, but afterward always ends up inspiring. I hate how difficult aya can be, but I LOVE the way I feel after. It's such a humbling experience.




I've been thinking a little while about expanding my horizons into shamanistic ritual intoxicants. I finished reading a book a few days ago about an anthropologist's happenings with a tribe in the amazon, and it's got me all buzzed about ayahuasca. Don't know when I'm going to find any, though, so zooms will certainly be adequate in the mean time.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: Nightingale]
    #14369391 - 04/28/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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bholzer said:

That's how I feel about ayahuasca. It can be fun in low doses, but higher range can be really difficult, but afterward always ends up inspiring. I hate how difficult aya can be, but I LOVE the way I feel after. It's such a humbling experience.




I've been thinking a little while about expanding my horizons into shamanistic ritual intoxicants. I finished reading a book a few days ago about an anthropologist's happenings with a tribe in the amazon, and it's got me all buzzed about ayahuasca. Don't know when I'm going to find any, though, so zooms will certainly be adequate in the mean time.




You really can't go wrong with making your own with some mimosa and rue.


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Re: Heroic Doses [Re: bholzer]
    #14369583 - 04/28/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Reading all of these threads makes me really excited to do a heroic dose. So far I've only gone as far as 3-4g, but I'm going to plan a level 5 experience for myself.


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