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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: NetDiver]
#14377027 - 04/30/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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suuuuuure
meditate on your being SD, concentrate on your "i am"....if you really wanna know
Why don't you concentrate on your "i am" a little less?
With so much focus on your ego it's no wonder you're so fuckin' condescending.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
i guess its just impossible to talk through text about this and not come off as condescending, because my whole point is that i've attained something and that's why you should consider what I'm saying. I don't think I'm better than you, I promise
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru] 1
#14380156 - 04/30/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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What, besides a condescending attitude, have you attained?
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14381183 - 05/01/11 03:25 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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guruu said: oh i do, and i don't care if it doesn't fit into your worldview
Has nothing to do with 'worldview' and everything to do with a total lack of evidence.
i don't care about material evidence in the same way you do
Dude, you just suggested a book as evidence for this idea that some people have been alive since 500AD. More sources please?
One book is considered no evidence, because there's nothing else you can use to fact-check the book. It's just an opinion from one person's view. Unless the book has a giant bibliography at the end...
It's like the Bible. Some Christians say, "Oh, I *know* God exists." When asked why, they say "Because it's in the Bible!" Okay...well, is there any solid evidence of Jesus outside the Bible? No.
I have no problem with your opinion, I would just like to know how you came to this conclusion other than just reading one book.
There is no way of testing this theory either, because if you carbon-date a live human or organism, you are going to get a result that says that they could have been born yesterday, last week, five years ago, or a thousand years ago. Carbon-dating only works on dead organisms. Therefore, it cannot be a scientifically accepted hypothesis. Someone would have noticed people *not* dying by now and would have tested their DNA. That's the only way to verify it. Test the DNA. If it matches a humans DNA, they won't live that long. If it's some sort of DNA we've never seen before, yeah, maybe it's worth looking into.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: Poid]
#14381659 - 05/01/11 08:24 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Poid said: What, besides a condescending attitude, have you attained?
Awareness?
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14381864 - 05/01/11 09:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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well, yeah. The main different i can tell is that i've become wayyyy more sensitive to people's energy, it's like i can get really accurate reads on people and sense their mood easily. It's just being aware of the present moment but that's another way to look at it.
i was thinking about this thread and even though i have attained a certain spiritual position, which anybody can attain if they only try, i don't think i'm in the right position to be leading people towards the truth, especially over the internet. At least not directly. But just remember: discover who you are, beyond all characteristics and qualities. It'll help you to be awesome egotistically if that's what you want (and that is what I want
dis some freemason shit yo
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14382053 - 05/01/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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guruu said: well, yeah. The main different i can tell is that i've become wayyyy more sensitive to people's energy, it's like i can get really accurate reads on people and sense their mood easily. It's just being aware of the present moment but that's another way to look at it.
i was thinking about this thread and even though i have attained a certain spiritual position, which anybody can attain if they only try, i don't think i'm in the right position to be leading people towards the truth, especially over the internet. At least not directly. But just remember: discover who you are, beyond all characteristics and qualities. It'll help you to be awesome egotistically if that's what you want (and that is what I want
dis some freemason shit yo
It's true, the vast majority of people have no desire to make quibbling, pedantic demands for evidence. These people, in turn, become subject to manipulation by those who would consciously ignore the need for evidence when making claims.
You just keep making up bullshit to support your story and eventually they give up on trying not to believe it.
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Tchan909 said: You just keep making up bullshit to support your story and eventually they give up on trying not to believe it. 
oh my god SO true. A few years ago I spent hours devising a quantum mechanical interpretation of reincarnation. After that I was just like....okay, i have more important things to think about like gurlz
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and deep breathing drastically reduces free-radicals which cut down on the build up of hydrogens and other gunk which are only carried halfway or not at all by oxygen because there is so little entering your red blood cells with shallow breathing. just read up, im not going to comment any further. we both have our opinions leave it at that. im not suggesting "hundreds" either if you read what i submitted, i said 250 max, which is still a longshot in my opinion.
This is the arrogance I always find so difficult to understand. We've got this guy who makes unintelligible claims about deep breathing cutting "build up of hydrogens" (what?) that are normally not well-carried by oxygen (what?).
Then, despite not providing any explanation of what he's even saying, let alone providing any evidence for it, he just concludes by presuming that if you disagree with him its because your ignorant- not because you have a position on ther merits. He advbises those who don't "believe him" to read up on "free radicals"- as if someone who doesn't believe him would be unfamiliar with such.
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the difference is that i am open to the idea, while still containing massive amounts of doubt until i see it.
And how is that "a difference"? You declare it to be, yes, but you don't say how it is. I think your just another person who presumes those who fail to believe some hand-waving claim must have taken a position on the merits of the claim rather than simply refusing to believe it as it was unsupported. From this garbage foundation, you procede to exhault yourself as if you alone are the one who is open to the idea- despite presenting no evidence of either your openness, the relevance, or the "closedness" of others.
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Diploid said: That's the mentality that keeps putting harmless potheads in prison next to rapists and murderers despite the material evidence on the (non)-harm caused by marijuana.
Good job perpetuating the mindset.
It's also the same type of fallacious reasoning responsible for most of the horrors in modern history.
I don't think this is any exageration at all: had Pol Pot been at all concerned with the evidence he'd have to realize his beleifs were contrary to observations or baseless, et cet.
I guess he "doesn't care about evidence" or whatever.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: johnm214]
#14388123 - 05/02/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i busted my mental nut a long time ago, it felt gooood
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru] 2
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Losing one's ability to think is nothing to be proud of.
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But it 
EDIT: wow.
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I just cracked a rib
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: auxiliary]
#14388458 - 05/02/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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My ba-a-a-d.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Losing one's ability to think is nothing to be proud of.
i can still think awesomely, i just dominated my philosophy final as a matter of fact
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru] 1
#14389486 - 05/02/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Guess they did not cover logical fallacies in your final.
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Not going to take sides here, but that was priceless.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: ahchela]
#14390516 - 05/02/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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For everything else, use American Express.
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it's me against the world baby
and yes orgone, i did have to understand what makes an argument deductively valid. i understand that this argument in this thread is not deductively valid. for me personally its a strong inductive argument, for you i suppose it seems weak.
you're strait up lying to yourself if you think you have all your beliefs deductively proved in your head tho
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14391131 - 05/02/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is, however, better to be too skeptical than not skeptical enough.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: NetDiver]
#14391169 - 05/02/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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and what is your justification for that?
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