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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: Grapefruit]
#14369791 - 04/28/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Grapefruit said: You actually believe someone has been alive since 500 A.D? May I ask why? Assuming there is at least some sort of reason.
its almost not worth the effort since ideas like that are the pinnacle of experience and contemplation for me. my closest irl friends wouldn't believe that idea and they're all deep as fuck.
but i'll try to back it up. Might as well, saying this obviously pissed diploid off enough that he had to poo poo me with a 0 shrooms rating 
Basically, people just assume that death is inevitable. But I've realized that through meditation and control of the breath, and yoga, it is fully possible to give yourself rejuvenating experiences on a daily basis. Seriously, after you meditate if you do it right, look at yourself in the mirror and you just look so much healthier and honestly younger. So I do have a lot of experience with improving the vital force and i know the possibilities it holds. Alongside this, there's the fact that we all put very impure foreign substances into our body all the time like greasy foods, alcohol, thc, any drug, any substance. Just about everybody does this. But what if you never did any of those "worldly" things? You always conserved your jizz, you ate a perfect diet, and meditated and did yoga all day...you would have so much more vital force, so much more of a healthy body than the average person.
So I extrapolate this knowledge to the point of physical immortality when i read in books that have helped me unbelievably in my life that there is a being on this planet now whose been alive that long and he achieved this through yoga and god-union. Combined with my non-materialist outlook.
So basically from your perspective, i'm either lying about these meditative experiences, deluding myself about these books i've read, or i'm telling the truth about these meditative experiences and the books i've read are legit and actually i'm in on some awesome fuckin open secrets that most people are too up their own assholes to notice.
have at it bub
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14369811 - 04/28/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Being "deep" doesn't necessarily mean you believe things for no reason. Actually, I think it's quite the opposite. I find the ones who are "deep as fuck" to be the ones who constantly question and analyze.
And I would say that believing that people can be alive for hundreds of years is something that you can't possibly base on any sort of rationality.
Also, based on what you've said about "having to believe in these things to experience them," I would categorize you as deluding yourself. No offense, it's just that if belief is correlated 100% with experience, that means you are manifesting the experience by believing in it.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: NetDiver]
#14369820 - 04/28/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i just explained it to the best of my ability mang. and when i say deep i don't mean it metaphorically at all, i literally mean deep into your self/the moment.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14369831 - 04/28/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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How old was Yogananda when he passed? Let me know if you need a hint.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14369837 - 04/28/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Right, and I'm saying you can be quite deep in yourself/the moment without believing crazy irrational things.
Shit, I meditate, I'm quite into Zen, I've had many ego death experiences on drugs. But I just have a different belief system. One thing I've realized is that having experiences that seem very strong and real to you does not mean that you are enlightened, or more correct than anybody else.
You have to understand that other people can have very deep meditative experiences and come to different conclusions than you.
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i know how old he was, obviously every spiritually advanced person doesn't find it necessary to preserve a single body for a huge amount of time. Your mean spirited assaults are powerless against my mighty conviction
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: NetDiver]
#14369848 - 04/28/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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"My ability to believe in things without reason is so strong I can withstand any assault of facts and rationality!"
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: NetDiver]
#14369860 - 04/28/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: Right, and I'm saying you can be quite deep in yourself/the moment without believing crazy irrational things.
Shit, I meditate, I'm quite into Zen, I've had many ego death experiences on drugs. But I just have a different belief system. One thing I've realized is that having experiences that seem very strong and real to you does not mean that you are enlightened, or more correct than anybody else.
Certainly not but I'm entitled to my opinion, right? When did I ever say you have to agree with me about this more out there stuff? But...just because you do those things, even though that is really cool, that doesn't mean you've gotten to the same depth I have. I had ego death experiences on drugs when i was like 17, at this point i have ego death experiences like every day when i'm not on drugs. And i'm still a total beginner on the path, but I know the atman, and i can generally tell when other people know the atman also.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: NetDiver]
#14369866 - 04/28/11 10:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Samurai Drifter said: "My ability to believe in things without reason is so strong I can withstand any assault of facts and rationality!"
dude i fuckin gave you my reasons, don't put words in my mouth
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru] 1
#14369884 - 04/28/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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guruu said: Certainly not but I'm entitled to my opinion, right? When did I ever say you have to agree with me about this more out there stuff? But...just because you do those things, even though that is really cool, that doesn't mean you've gotten to the same depth I have. I had ego death experiences on drugs when i was like 17, at this point i have ego death experiences like every day when i'm not on drugs. And i'm still a total beginner on the path, but I know the atman, and i can generally tell when other people know the atman also.
If you want my opinion, I think it's quite the opposite. I think you have a very poor understanding of the doctrines you pretend to espouse, or you wouldn't be constantly promoting all this egotistical body-transcending duality stuff. That's so far off the mark from Zen and most other eastern philosophies it's funny.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14369888 - 04/28/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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obviously every spiritually advanced person doesn't find it necessary to preserve a single body for a huge amount of time.
He died a fat, bloated diabetic American at a relatively young age.
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: NetDiver]
#14369892 - 04/28/11 10:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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suuuuuure
meditate on your being SD, concentrate on your "i am"....if you really wanna know
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#14369908 - 04/28/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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guruu said:
suuuuuure
meditate on your being SD, concentrate on your "i am"....if you really wanna know
Why don't you concentrate on your "i am" a little less?
With so much focus on your ego it's no wonder you're so fuckin' condescending.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: g00ru]
#14370260 - 04/28/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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guruu said: meditate on your being SD, concentrate on your "i am"....if you really wanna know
Still with that?
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obviously every spiritually advanced person doesn't find it necessary to preserve a single body for a huge amount of time.
He died a fat, bloated diabetic American at a relatively young age.
Served his fake ass right. Who would believe in such tripe anyway?
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guruu.
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obviously every spiritually advanced person doesn't find it necessary to preserve a single body for a huge amount of time.
He died a fat, bloated diabetic American at a relatively young age.
Served his fake ass right. Who would believe in such tripe anyway?
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: Poid]
#14370997 - 04/29/11 02:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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guru have you read 'jitterbug perfume' by tom robbins? you would definitely enjoy it. that goes for all of you. diploid, i agree 100% with opening up both sides of debate so it can be discussed more thoroughly, but i have to agree with guru, i personally don't think 500 years.. more like 120-250 but thats still supposed to be 'impossible'. deep breathing really is key, for those interested, they should read more on free-radicals.
i have the book attached here. this is my favorite book, i know a lot of you will enjoy it as much as i.
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floatindownsligo said: diploid, i agree 100% with opening up both sides of debate so it can be discussed more thoroughly, but i have to agree with guru, i personally don't think 500 years.. more like 120-250 but thats still supposed to be 'impossible'.
Diploid has explained why that's impossible.
Do you have any evidence which shows that humans can live 120-250 years? If not, then why do you want to believe it so badly?
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Re: Longest lived human being? [Re: Poid]
#14371029 - 04/29/11 02:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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with 6 billion people in the world, there are going to be a handful of people that exceed the normal age limit. i have no problem being wrong whatsoever, in fact i love learning new things. if somebody can give me hard evidence that somebody who practices deep breathing, meditation, exercises, eats healthy, drinks plenty of fluids, and drinks things like green tea and reishii, and who is at one with himself and the world cant live a few dozen years extra than the normal human who is almost constantly struggling in their psychology and fitness levels.
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